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Strange hit in search for irrigation remedies…

Question:

Ran across a few posts back in ‘95 in Google group archives, about some people on this same sinusitis group referring to a method of irrigation, now get this, using Karo syrup (ONLY the Clear…not the dark) in the mix. The recipe was 1/2 tsp of salt, 1/2 tsp of baking soda, 1 pint of water (one post had only 8oz. water), and 1 teaspoon of the clear Karo syrup. This was referred back to some ENT at the University of Pittsburg, if I recall correctly. One person posted the identical recipe that was ‘passed’ down by his Aunt from her Dr. The Karo syrup was supposed to act as a moisturizer, and also ’slick’ things up. Was supposed to be used by a homemade spray bottle often through out the day, and then re-make a new batch after a week. One posted he used it in a WaterPic and by the Dr. Grossan method. This was supposed to be the best way to eliminate post nasal drip. (I’m one that is about ready to try anything!, but this sounds pretty weird) Anyone hear about this mixture…and if so, results? The people posting said it worked like a champ. Kids included. Maybe Dr. Grossan has heard of this? Post nasal drip is driving me up the wall this year. One or two posters were concerned that it would clog up the WaterPic, but the ‘user’ said he washed it out and all was fine. Just seems like putting sugar up you nose would be feeding bacteria…but another post in the same subject, said that they used pure sugar in bed sores in a nursing home, and it would make them heal faster. Theory is, sugar breaks down the cell walls of bacteria, and does the same in the nose, and literally ends the post nasal drip. Comments? Especially from Dr. Grossman! Thanks, …Allen

Response:

In news:tCSwe.88615$6g3.12836@tornado.texas.rr.com, Allen L. <inva…@invalid.org> typed: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ran across a few posts back in ‘95 in Google group archives, about > some people on this same sinusitis group referring to a method of > irrigation, now get this, using Karo syrup (ONLY the Clear…not the > dark) in the mix. The recipe was 1/2 tsp of salt, 1/2 tsp of baking > soda, 1 pint of water (one post had only 8oz. water), and 1 teaspoon > of the clear Karo syrup. This was referred back to some ENT at the > University of Pittsburg, if I recall correctly. One person posted the > identical recipe that was ‘passed’ down by his Aunt from her Dr. The > Karo syrup was supposed to act as a moisturizer, and also ’slick’ > things up. Was supposed to be used by a homemade spray bottle often > through out the day, and then re-make a new batch after a week. One > posted he used it in a WaterPic and by the Dr. Grossan method. This > was supposed to be the best way to eliminate post nasal drip. (I’m > one that is about ready to try anything!, but this sounds pretty > weird) > Anyone hear about this mixture…and if so, results? The people > posting said it worked like a champ. Kids included. Maybe Dr. Grossan > has heard of this? Post nasal drip is driving me up the wall this > year. > One or two posters were concerned that it would clog up the WaterPic, > but the ‘user’ said he washed it out and all was fine. Just seems > like putting sugar up you nose would be feeding bacteria…but > another post in the same subject, said that they used pure sugar in > bed sores in a nursing home, and it would make them heal faster. > Theory is, sugar breaks down the cell walls of bacteria, and does the > same in the nose, and literally ends the post nasal drip. > Comments? Especially from Dr. Grossman! > Thanks, > …Allen

Last sentence was typed wrong, sorry Dr. Grossan! Hope you’ve not been called that!

Response:

On 6/30/05 6:39 AM, in article tCSwe.88615$6g3.12…@tornado.texas.rr.com, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Allen L." <inva…@invalid.org> wrote: > Ran across a few posts back in ‘95 in Google group archives, about some > people on this same sinusitis group referring to a method of irrigation, now > get this, using Karo syrup (ONLY the Clear…not the dark) in the mix. The > recipe was 1/2 tsp of salt, 1/2 tsp of baking soda, 1 pint of water (one > post had only 8oz. water), and 1 teaspoon of the clear Karo syrup. This was > referred back to some ENT at the University of Pittsburg, if I recall > correctly. One person posted the identical recipe that was ‘passed’ down by > his Aunt from her Dr. The Karo syrup was supposed to act as a moisturizer, > and also ’slick’ things up. Was supposed to be used by a homemade spray > bottle often through out the day, and then re-make a new batch after a week. > One posted he used it in a WaterPic and by the Dr. Grossan method. This was > supposed to be the best way to eliminate post nasal drip. (I’m one that is > about ready to try anything!, but this sounds pretty weird) > Anyone hear about this mixture…and if so, results? The people posting said > it worked like a champ. Kids included. Maybe Dr. Grossan has heard of this? > Post nasal drip is driving me up the wall this year. > One or two posters were concerned that it would clog up the WaterPic, but > the ‘user’ said he washed it out and all was fine. Just seems like putting > sugar up you nose would be feeding bacteria…but another post in the same > subject, said that they used pure sugar in bed sores in a nursing home, and > it would make them heal faster. Theory is, sugar breaks down the cell walls > of bacteria, and does the same in the nose, and literally ends the post > nasal drip. > Comments? Especially from Dr. Grossman! > Thanks, > …Allen

I have never used Karo syrup for irrigation. I am one of those old fuss pots – I can’t recommend anything until it is proven to be safe for my patients.

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On 6/30/05 6:39 AM, in article > tCSwe.88615$6g3.12…@tornado.texas.rr.com, "Allen L." > <inva…@invalid.org> wrote: >> Ran across a few posts back in ‘95 in Google group archives, about >> some people on this same sinusitis group referring to a method of >> irrigation, now get this, using Karo syrup (ONLY the Clear…not the >> dark) in the mix. The recipe was 1/2 tsp of salt, 1/2 tsp of baking >> soda, 1 pint of water (one post had only 8oz. water), and 1 teaspoon >> of the clear Karo syrup. This was referred back to some ENT at the >> University of Pittsburg, if I recall correctly. One person posted >> the identical recipe that was ‘passed’ down by his Aunt from her Dr. >> The Karo syrup was supposed to act as a moisturizer, and also >> ’slick’ things up. Was supposed to be used by a homemade spray >> bottle often through out the day, and then re-make a new batch after >> a week. One posted he used it in a WaterPic and by the Dr. Grossan >> method. This was supposed to be the best way to eliminate post nasal >> drip. (I’m one that is about ready to try anything!, but this sounds >> pretty weird) >> Anyone hear about this mixture…and if so, results? The people >> posting said it worked like a champ. Kids included. Maybe Dr. >> Grossan has heard of this? Post nasal drip is driving me up the wall >> this year. >> One or two posters were concerned that it would clog up the >> WaterPic, but the ‘user’ said he washed it out and all was fine. >> Just seems like putting sugar up you nose would be feeding >> bacteria…but another post in the same subject, said that they used >> pure sugar in bed sores in a nursing home, and it would make them >> heal faster. Theory is, sugar breaks down the cell walls of >> bacteria, and does the same in the nose, and literally ends the post >> nasal drip. >> Comments? Especially from Dr. Grossman! >> Thanks, >> …Allen >In news:BEE96698.372C%hydromed@adelphia.net, >Murray Grossan <hydro…@adelphia.net> typed: > I have never used Karo syrup for irrigation. I am one of those old > fuss pots > – I can’t recommend anything until it is proven to be safe for my > patients.

Thanks Doc! You made up my mind about trying that idea. I’ve cut my salt back to 1/2 tsp (instead of 1 tsp) and 1/4 tsp of baking soda in 1 pint of water and irrigating 2 times a day, and it does seem to be slowing the PND. I think maybe I was drawing too much moisture from my nose and leaving it so dry that it caused the post nasal drip to increase…is that possible?? Anyway, whatever works. Thanks for the reply, …Allen

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:39:37 GMT, "Allen L." <inva…@invalid.org> wrote: >Ran across a few posts back in ‘95 in Google group archives, about some >people on this same sinusitis group referring to a method of irrigation, now >get this, using Karo syrup (ONLY the Clear…not the dark) in the mix. The >recipe was 1/2 tsp of salt, 1/2 tsp of baking soda, 1 pint of water (one >post had only 8oz. water), and 1 teaspoon of the clear Karo syrup. This was >referred back to some ENT at the University of Pittsburg, if I recall >correctly. One person posted the identical recipe that was ‘passed’ down by >his Aunt from her Dr. The Karo syrup was supposed to act as a moisturizer, >and also ’slick’ things up. Was supposed to be used by a homemade spray >bottle often through out the day, and then re-make a new batch after a week. >One posted he used it in a WaterPic and by the Dr. Grossan method. This was >supposed to be the best way to eliminate post nasal drip. (I’m one that is >about ready to try anything!, but this sounds pretty weird) >Anyone hear about this mixture…and if so, results?

It is described here here http://www.chmkids.org/chm/ent/families/treatments/nasalwash.html and here http://www.upmc.edu/eyeear/sinonasal/pdfFiles/saltWaterRinse.pdf

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