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You need help for sure but I doubt that sinus is anywhere near the top of the list. For those who feel the same way, and are using Microsoft Outlook Express, select one of his posts without opening it, and hit message, block sender, and then confirm. Sickies like this feed on attention.

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Dave – -now — that was a good come back.  God your old!  Three years older than this sinus sufferer, but your aging fast; I can detect some senile dementia in the way you express yourself.  I’ll not quit this news group because someone should speak up against some of the quackery here.  I think this group was invented so Grossan could sell his irrigation apparatuses at ridiculous prices to screw gullible people. *<];o))))) Randy ===================== – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dave Gower wrote: > "Randy" <em…@execpc.com> wrote in message > news:3afd4679$0$18890$272ea4a1@news.execpc.com… > > Dave – Dave – Dave – you are obviously a control freak and a ‘know it > > all’.  You must be very young, > I know someone with terminal self importance when I see one, and I’ve seen > lots in my 58 years. Know how to get their attention too. Works every time. > Thought you were quitting health newsgroups.

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"Randy" <em…@execpc.com> wrote in message

news:3afd4679$0$18890$272ea4a1@news.execpc.com… > Dave – Dave – Dave – you are obviously a control freak and a ‘know it > all’.  You must be very young,

I know someone with terminal self importance when I see one, and I’ve seen lots in my 58 years. Know how to get their attention too. Works every time. Thought you were quitting health newsgroups.

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On Sat, 12 May 2001 18:09:17 GMT, Don Brady <dbr…@pobox.com> wrote: >Let’s suppose an employer does scan the newsgroups for posts by employees. >Why would he hold  posts to health newsgroups against someone? >It seems to me the opposite is the case.   It would increase my regard for >someone to know they helped others.  Or even for that matter, knew how to use >Usenet,

However, the employer could also be screening for articulateness, carelessness (spelling errors), abrasiveness OR for a large number of messages that seem to have been posted on company time :-) And a potential employer might well assume that a person active in a disease related newsgroup is very likely to have that disease (or to associate with people who do), and could reject the applicant for insurance or various prejudicial reasons. Remember a few years ago, when it was discovered that various law-enforcement agencies were cataloging folks who wrote letters to the (newspaper) editor.   None of this stops me from posting wherever I want, but it’s something I think about now and then.

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Let’s suppose an employer does scan the newsgroups for posts by employees. Why would he hold  posts to health newsgroups against someone? It seems to me the opposite is the case.   It would increase my regard for someone to know they helped others.  Or even for that matter, knew how to use Usenet,

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On Fri, 11 May 2001 12:13:43 -0500, Randy <em…@execpc.com> wrote: >It’s obvious >none of you knew deja.com old policy of not posting messages with the >’x-no-archive: yes’ line.  Its bad enough that insurance companies get >illegal info. from medical facilities; now, the world and any employer >can easily look up any info. on any person posting to newsgroups.  I’ll >never share a damn bit with any health newsgroups again,

We have no way of knowing how many companies or individuals are harvesting and archiving newsgroups, for private or commercial use, regardless of the "no-archive" stated in the post.  I have heard that at least one major corporation regularly screens newsgroup postings by job applicants — I suppose to weed out crackpots and abrasive individuals or whatever.   It’s prudent to regard any post you make as in the public domain *forever*.  

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Dave – Dave – Dave – you are obviously a control freak and a ‘know it all’.  You must be very young, and you don’t think of the broader implications of privacy.  Somebody like you definitely would be ‘cold cocked’ and on the floor in a short time if you were ever in the service.  You must enjoy being a smart ass. Randy ;0))) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dave Gower wrote: > "Randy" <em…@execpc.com> wrote in message > news:3afc1d3c$0$12821$272ea4a1@news.execpc.com… > > The hell with being a little more gracious and grateful!  What do you > > think the ( x-no-archive: yes) was for in the first place?  It’s obvious > > none of you knew deja.com old policy of not posting messages with the > > ‘x-no-archive: yes’ line. > Randy calm down. Anything that is posted to a newsgroup is at least in > theory public property for ever and ever. Deja may have had whatever policy > it wanted but you are imposing very narrow and unrealistic views in order to > have a good old-fashioned tantrum. Three year-olds do that.

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Dear friends, I’m AETIUS, the ‘owner’ ot the site with archive of the messages. I though I could  a small service to anyone with sinusitis problem. The update of the site took me some of my spare time; of course my work was unpaid, and I did only to help the community of sinus-people. Now it turns out – for reasons that in my opinion are very weak – that this site could be harmful! NO PROBLEM. I’VE JUST REMOVED THE ENTIRE SITE. —— P.S. my five-cents advice: if you care your privacy, do not post to newsgroups with your real e-mail address! So long Aetius – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Fri, 11 May 2001 12:13:43 -0500, Randy <em…@execpc.com> wrote: >The hell with being a little more gracious and grateful!  What do you >think the ( x-no-archive: yes) was for in the first place?  It’s obvious >none of you knew deja.com old policy of not posting messages with the >’x-no-archive: yes’ line.  Its bad enough that insurance companies get >illegal info. from medical facilities; now, the world and any employer >can easily look up any info. on any person posting to newsgroups.  I’ll >never share a damn bit with any health newsgroups again, and I had some >nice information that might help some folks which I obtained from a >doctor in Milwaukee.  Pi– on it! >I hope you irrigate until you nearly drown!  Idiots !!!!! > Randy >================================================ >Dave Gower wrote: >> "Randy" <em…@execpc.com> wrote in message >> news:3af95d06$0$12821$272ea4a1@news.execpc.com… >> > The # is not good enough — any idiot can figure out e-mail addresses >> > from the posts you have archived.  Please do more — like eliminating >> > all or most of the address parts (domain or keywords).  You are not >> > providing a service the way you have it set up now, especially to those >> > individuals who do not want their messages archived.  I’m really angered >> > at the gall of you to do this!!!!!! >> This is very unfair. He is providing an unpaid service, and deserves thanks >> not abuse. As to your email address, you don’t have to display it on posts >> if you don’t want to. The worst that happens is you get spam. >> Let’s be a little more gracious and grateful.

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On Wed, 09 May 2001 10:09:06 -0500, Randy <em…@execpc.com> wrote: >The # is not good enough — any idiot can figure out e-mail addresses >from the posts you have archived.  Please do more — like eliminating >all or most of the address parts (domain or keywords).  You are not >providing a service the way you have it set up now, especially to those >individuals who do not want their messages archived.  I’m really angered >at the gall of you to do this!!!!!!

I think he is providing a service.  I do not see why he should alter the posts in any way, including removing email addrsses. As far as I know, you are contributing your full post to the public domain when you post to Usenet. And, as others have pointed out, it’s all available at deja.com anyway.

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"Randy" <em…@execpc.com> wrote in message

news:3af95d06$0$12821$272ea4a1@news.execpc.com… > The # is not good enough — any idiot can figure out e-mail addresses > from the posts you have archived.  Please do more — like eliminating > all or most of the address parts (domain or keywords).  You are not > providing a service the way you have it set up now, especially to those > individuals who do not want their messages archived.  I’m really angered > at the gall of you to do this!!!!!!

This is very unfair. He is providing an unpaid service, and deserves thanks not abuse. As to your email address, you don’t have to display it on posts if you don’t want to. The worst that happens is you get spam. Let’s be a little more gracious and grateful.

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The hell with being a little more gracious and grateful!  What do you think the ( x-no-archive: yes) was for in the first place?  It’s obvious none of you knew deja.com old policy of not posting messages with the ‘x-no-archive: yes’ line.  Its bad enough that insurance companies get illegal info. from medical facilities; now, the world and any employer can easily look up any info. on any person posting to newsgroups.  I’ll never share a damn bit with any health newsgroups again, and I had some nice information that might help some folks which I obtained from a doctor in Milwaukee.  Pi– on it! I hope you irrigate until you nearly drown!  Idiots !!!!!  Randy ================================================ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dave Gower wrote: > "Randy" <em…@execpc.com> wrote in message > news:3af95d06$0$12821$272ea4a1@news.execpc.com… > > The # is not good enough — any idiot can figure out e-mail addresses > > from the posts you have archived.  Please do more — like eliminating > > all or most of the address parts (domain or keywords).  You are not > > providing a service the way you have it set up now, especially to those > > individuals who do not want their messages archived.  I’m really angered > > at the gall of you to do this!!!!!! > This is very unfair. He is providing an unpaid service, and deserves thanks > not abuse. As to your email address, you don’t have to display it on posts > if you don’t want to. The worst that happens is you get spam. > Let’s be a little more gracious and grateful.

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On Fri, 11 May 2001 12:13:43 -0500, Randy <em…@execpc.com> wrote: >The hell with being a little more gracious and grateful!  What do you >think the ( x-no-archive: yes) was for in the first place?  It’s obvious >none of you knew deja.com old policy of not posting messages with the >’x-no-archive: yes’ line.  Its bad enough that insurance companies get >illegal info. from medical facilities; now, the world and any employer >can easily look up any info. on any person posting to newsgroups.  I’ll >never share a damn bit with any health newsgroups again, and I had some >nice information that might help some folks which I obtained from a >doctor in Milwaukee.  Pi– on it! >I hope you irrigate until you nearly drown!  Idiots !!!!! > Randy

Well, you did not refer at all  to x-no-archive in your post I responded to. If there were earlier posts that did, I did not see them. I would agree that posts with x-no-archive: yes should not be archived.

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In article <3afc1d3c$0$12821$272ea…@news.execpc.com>, Randy <em…@execpc.com> wrote: > The hell with being a little more gracious and grateful!  What do you > think the ( x-no-archive: yes) was for in the first place?  It’s obvious > none of you knew deja.com old policy of not posting messages with the > ‘x-no-archive: yes’ line.  Its bad enough that insurance companies get > illegal info. from medical facilities; now, the world and any employer > can easily look up any info. on any person posting to newsgroups.  I’ll > never share a damn bit with any health newsgroups again, and I had some > nice information that might help some folks which I obtained from a > doctor in Milwaukee.  Pi– on it! > I hope you irrigate until you nearly drown!  Idiots !!!!! >  Randy

Please don’t slam the oor on your way out.    Larry

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"Randy" <em…@execpc.com> wrote in message

news:3afc1d3c$0$12821$272ea4a1@news.execpc.com… > The hell with being a little more gracious and grateful!  What do you > think the ( x-no-archive: yes) was for in the first place?  It’s obvious > none of you knew deja.com old policy of not posting messages with the > ‘x-no-archive: yes’ line.

Randy calm down. Anything that is posted to a newsgroup is at least in theory public property for ever and ever. Deja may have had whatever policy it wanted but you are imposing very narrow and unrealistic views in order to have a good old-fashioned tantrum. Three year-olds do that.

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Dear friends, for those of you interested, the archive of threads sent to this group has just been updated. The archive now hosts all threads sent from August 1999 to March 2001. It can be found here: http://digilander.iol.it/ebo1/index.htm Best wishes Ae.

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The # is not good enough — any idiot can figure out e-mail addresses from the posts you have archived.  Please do more — like eliminating all or most of the address parts (domain or keywords).  You are not providing a service the way you have it set up now, especially to those individuals who do not want their messages archived.  I’m really angered at the gall of you to do this!!!!!! Thanks — Randy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Aetius wrote: > Dear friends, > for those of you interested, > the archive of threads > sent to this group has just been updated. > The archive now hosts all threads sent > from August 1999 to March 2001. > It can be found here: > http://digilander.iol.it/ebo1/index.htm > Best wishes > Ae.

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While I appreciate privacy concerns, isn’t the email address information that so upsets you even more easily available through google’s groups search? If so, I don’t quite understand why this other archive, in which an attempt (however imperfect) to hide email addresses was at least made, is so troublesome. Isn’t is also generally understood that once you post a message to a public forum, and that message includes your email address, you pretty much waive your privacy right, at least regarding that email address. Or am I mistaken here? Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Wed, 09 May 2001 10:09:06 -0500, Randy <em…@execpc.com> wrote: >The # is not good enough — any idiot can figure out e-mail addresses >from the posts you have archived.  Please do more — like eliminating >all or most of the address parts (domain or keywords).  You are not >providing a service the way you have it set up now, especially to those >individuals who do not want their messages archived.  I’m really angered >at the gall of you to do this!!!!!! >Thanks — Randy >Aetius wrote: >> Dear friends, >> for those of you interested, >> the archive of threads >> sent to this group has just been updated. >> The archive now hosts all threads sent >> from August 1999 to March 2001. >> It can be found here: >> http://digilander.iol.it/ebo1/index.htm >> Best wishes >> Ae.

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