Filed under: Sinusitis Treatment
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What do you folks know about the mold Penicillium chrysogenum? Thanks… Oliver
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"Oliver" <oliver1…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:UOr97.9710$0w3.1515425@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net… > What do you folks know about the mold Penicillium chrysogenum? > Thanks… > Oliver
Hi, Is this just a quiz? I believe you would get a better response if you would say why and what you want to know, how it possibly applies to you, etc. Currently, your question is much like "What do you know about rocket science." Best Wishes, Marv
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OK, I can see your point of view. I did not intend to be that cryptic. Is it a common contributor to sinusitis? What is the best treatment if it is believed to be a factor in sinusitis? Is it a common allergen? In what types of environments does it thrive? In what environments does it do poorly? Is it commonly found indoors? If it is found to be present indoors, what is the best method for removal? That is as specific as I can be at this point. Regards: Oliver
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i don’t know about a book, but i found www.sinuses.com pretty helpful – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -epotter wrote: > Can anyone reccommend or mention the good or bad points of books available?
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Larry Preuss wrote: > In article <95v3OtbOyRFC0eP1xiky6Cxey…@4ax.com>, Don Brady > <dbr…@pobox.com> wrote: > > It is getting better with the Internet. I suspect this newsgroup is the > > single > > best lay source of information on sinusitis management for the patient > > anywhere. But how many people even know that Usenet exists? > Katie Hafner, a NY Times editor of their Circuits page, estimates 10%. > Larry
One reason for that, might be that the premium-content services (like AOL and Compuserve) don’t emphasize it. I used to have an account on Compuserve, which has its own chat forums for various subjects. While they do provide access to Usenet, it’s not well publicized, and the default newsreader they provide is just awful. The ISPs that give you the "pure" internet (little or no additional content of their own) do tend to emphasize Usenet more. That’s why I switched from Compuserve to EarthLink recently. — Steven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlit…@earthlink.net "I guess I could have paid a little closer attention when I was in English class, but it all worked out OK. I’m gainfully employed." – President George W. Bush
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In article <95v3OtbOyRFC0eP1xiky6Cxey…@4ax.com>, Don Brady <dbr…@pobox.com> wrote: > It is getting better with the Internet. I suspect this newsgroup is the > single > best lay source of information on sinusitis management for the patient > anywhere. But how many people even know that Usenet exists?
Katie Hafner, a NY Times editor of their Circuits page, estimates 10%. Larry
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On Tue, 08 May 2001 06:25:41 GMT, Steven Litvintchouk <sdlit…@earthlink.net> wrote: >I found "Sinus Survival" to be a good book for the layman, provided that >you understand where Dr. Ivker is coming from. He is a D.O., and is >partial to holistic medicine. Therefore, he tries to offer a variety of >"alternative" remedies
Yes, but people are not going to understand that. Or, if they do, they will think that there is no science available – just wild theories which might have no validity whatsoever. That is what I concluded from his book, and the absence of other books on the subject, years ago. Once he throws "holistic" in there, I discount his whole book (or, if I buy into holistic, start doubting the whole basis of modern medicine). >, and tends to be suspicious of antibiotics. >Despite that, I found Dr. Ivker’s description of sinuses and sinusitis >helpful. I also found several of Dr. Ivker’s suggestions helpful. >YMMV. >As for the "well-established and effective medical science for dealing >with sinusitis," I’m not convinced there really is such a thing.
I’m not saying it is 100% effective. Nothing is, in any medical field. Nor am I saying there is unanimity. But I think the patient will be better off to pick one of the standard mainstream approaches to sinusitis, if he can find out what they are. Until now, it has been almost impossible to do even find out what the standard approaches are. I’m certainly not going to assume that some doctor I choose at random is the right one. He may be on some fringe, or a charlaton, or incompetent, or superficial, or ,,,,, It is getting better with the Internet. I suspect this newsgroup is the single best lay source of information on sinusitis management for the patient anywhere. But how many people even know that Usenet exists? >My ENT summed it up this way: "Patients try every antibiotic and every >home remedy they can think of. And after a few years, when they just >can’t take it any more, then they go for surgery." >Is that what you meant by a "well-established and effective medical >science"??
I hope you are not really that cynical. That may be an apt description of the way the average patient behaves, but I think that is partly *because* the only information he can access (including Ivker’s book) is based on "alternative" approaches, but there are few, if any, books, describing mainstream approaches. What do you expect the patient to do? About all that makes sense, in this vacuum, is try things at random, or simply give up.
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Thanks for recommending my book, The Sinus Cure. This was written with the readers here as "the audience". Much that is in the book came from the questions I see here. The reviews have certainly been gratifying. The Sinus Cure can be read in many public libraries. Best, Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com http://www.TinnitusRelief.net
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Don Brady wrote: > On Sat, 05 May 2001 03:04:11 GMT, "SinusS" <nma…@stny.rr.com> wrote: > >Sinus Survival by Dr Ivker is very good. > Sorry to disagree, but I think it is a terrible book. Full of far-fetched and > unproven theories of systemic fungus and so forth. > I read it years ago and it set back for years my ability to understand that > there actually is a well-established and effective medical science for dealing > with sinusitis. It just is not described in this book.
I found "Sinus Survival" to be a good book for the layman, provided that you understand where Dr. Ivker is coming from. He is a D.O., and is partial to holistic medicine. Therefore, he tries to offer a variety of "alternative" remedies, and tends to be suspicious of antibiotics. Despite that, I found Dr. Ivker’s description of sinuses and sinusitis helpful. I also found several of Dr. Ivker’s suggestions helpful. YMMV. As for the "well-established and effective medical science for dealing with sinusitis," I’m not convinced there really is such a thing. My ENT summed it up this way: "Patients try every antibiotic and every home remedy they can think of. And after a few years, when they just can’t take it any more, then they go for surgery." Is that what you meant by a "well-established and effective medical science"?? — Steven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlit…@earthlink.net "I guess I could have paid a little closer attention when I was in English class, but it all worked out OK. I’m gainfully employed." – President George W. Bush
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On Sat, 05 May 2001 03:04:11 GMT, "SinusS" <nma…@stny.rr.com> wrote: >Sinus Survival by Dr Ivker is very good.
Sorry to disagree, but I think it is a terrible book. Full of far-fetched and unproven theories of systemic fungus and so forth. I read it years ago and it set back for years my ability to understand that there actually is a well-established and effective medical science for dealing with sinusitis. It just is not described in this book. Murray Grossan’s The Sinus Cure is far better. But to really understand Sinus Disease and Treatment in depth, you’ll have to go to the scientific literature at this time.
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in article 2nnzOjSAEOb4iMjAHznYt5UsK…@4ax.com, Don Brady at dbr…@pobox.com wrote on 5/5/01 12:04 AM: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Sat, 05 May 2001 03:04:11 GMT, "SinusS" <nma…@stny.rr.com> wrote: >> Sinus Survival by Dr Ivker is very good. > Sorry to disagree, but I think it is a terrible book. Full of far-fetched and > unproven theories of systemic fungus and so forth. > I read it years ago and it set back for years my ability to understand that > there actually is a well-established and effective medical science for dealing > with sinusitis. It just is not described in this book. > Murray Grossan’s The Sinus Cure is far better. > But to really understand Sinus Disease and Treatment in depth, you’ll have to > go to the scientific literature at this time.
Dr. Grossan’s "The Sinus Cure" is very good, but Dr. Ivker’s book, Sinus Survival is also very good and has helped lots of people.
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Sinus Survival by Dr Ivker is very good. "epotter" <epot…@mail.utexas.edu> wrote in message
news:epotter-0405012101430001@dial-52-32.ots.utexas.edu… > Can anyone reccommend or mention the good or bad points of books
available?
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Can anyone reccommend or mention the good or bad points of books available?
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I think its probably sinus. But I am not a dr. My experience with optic nuritis was a blurring of vision to in a matter of hrs complete loss of sight. Hope this helps. Take care but if doesn’t go away please call your dr. Thats what they are suppose to be there for.
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"Helen Deborah Vecht" <helenve…@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:2000102317515285140@zetnet.co.uk… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The message <GSWI5.76918$YG5.54…@tor-nn1.netcom.ca> > from "Alex and Gaylan" <alexandgay…@email.msn.com> contains these words: > > Hi Helen, > > I have been thinking about you and wondering how you are getting along. > > Glad to see your name. > I’m fine, thanks. > I’m on Annual Leave from work at present. Prior to that I had been > very busy and somewhat stressed. > — > Helen D. Vecht: helenve…@zetnet.co.uk
I certainly hope your Leave gives you a time of rest and relaxation; I think there is no profession that needs it more than being a physician. Gaylan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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>If your upper row of teeth hurt or ache too, then it’s probably sinus. >Neuralgia is extremely painful in any event, and may or many not be related >to your MS.
When I had ON my upper teeth hurt too, that’s what thru the doctors off! It was called "referred" pain. Diane W. Orlando "Dream as if you’ll live forever, live as if you’ll die today." – James Dean
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So diane…did your insurance company approve of the referral? : P Take care : ) JulieD "Diwitt" <diw…@aol.comspamfree> wrote in message
news:20001024234648.16860.00001033@ng-fz1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >If your upper row of teeth hurt or ache too, then it’s probably sinus. > >Neuralgia is extremely painful in any event, and may or many not be related > >to your MS. > When I had ON my upper teeth hurt too, that’s what thru the doctors off! It > was called "referred" pain. > Diane W. > Orlando > "Dream as if you’ll live forever, live as if > you’ll die today." – James Dean
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Hi! I went to the dentist last February and had to have a fractured tooth repaired, (from eating pistachios, which I don’t eat anymore) Anyways! As soon as he put the needle in, which my the way doesn’t ususally bother me, I almost jumped right out of the chair and nearly passed out! From that moment on! I got trigeminal neuralgia which was in my jaw, cheek and my eye. Now! I am so afraid to go to the dentist. My GP said it wasn’t trigeminal neuralgia, but my neuro said it was! Who cares who said what! All I remember is the pain! OUCH! Roarke <roa…@langleyirrv.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:8t24fh$h3k$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If your upper row of teeth hurt or ache too, then it’s probably sinus. > Neuralgia is extremely painful in any event, and may or many not be related > to your MS. > Roarke. > "Diana Calder" <d.r.calder@home> wrote in message > news:wcYI5.505937$8u4.6348447@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com… > > Hi Sharon! > > I had eye pain in my right eye that lasted for weeks. The neuro suspected > > optic neuritis. He sent me to an ophthalmologist in which case he > indicated > > that M.S. has never touched my eyes. It was a form of neuralgia. > Extremely > > painful! I get it off and on. More off would be better! By the way, it > is > > a beautiful, cool sunny day here in Coquitlam, British Columbia. > > Happiness > > Diana > > shajon <sha…@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message > > news:jQEI5.3131$iY1.68661@sodalite.nbnet.nb.ca… > > > Hi to all…I have a ? > > > I have had a sinus infection for over a month. Also, for the last 3 days > > my > > > left eye > > > has been aching and is painful to touch. > > > Could this be from the sinus infection (which is on the same side) or > > could > > > it > > > be Optic Neuritis? I do not have any blurring or vision loss. Should I > > > be going back to the Doc.? > > > Thanks and I hope everyone is having a great weekend. It is sunny but > > > windy and cool here in New Brunswick, Canada. > > > Sharon
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TeHeee!!!!!>o diane…did your insurance company approve of the referral? : P – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Take care : ) >JulieD >"Diwitt" <diw…@aol.comspamfree> wrote in message >news:20001024234648.16860.00001033@ng-fz1.aol.com… >> >If your upper row of teeth hurt or ache too, then it’s probably sinus. >> >Neuralgia is extremely painful in any event, and may or many not be >related >> >to your MS. >> When I had ON my upper teeth hurt too, that’s what thru the doctors off! >It >> was called "referred" pain. >> Diane W. >> Orlando >> "Dream as if you’ll live forever, live as if >> you’ll die today." – James Dean
Diane W. Orlando "Dream as if you’ll live forever, live as if you’ll die today." – James Dean
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Hi Diane.. I did have one bout with ON in the past and I don’t remember any pain. Sure did not like the Solymedrol treatments but they did work fast. (ugggg to the side effects though.) Thanks and nice to meet you… Sharon ————————————————————— Diwitt <diw…@aol.comspamfree> wrote in message
news:20001022150900.14956.00000862@ng-fk1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Also, for the last 3 days my > >left eye > >has been aching and is painful to touch. > >Could this be from the sinus infection (which is on the same side) or could > >it > >be Optic Neuritis? > For me the key to ON pain was that when I MOVED my eyeball side to side as if > to look at something the eyeball itself hurt. Not the lids or the "orbit" > (socket) as the eye docs are prone to call it. It was extremely painful with an > excruciating headache as well. They treated me for a sinus infection for two > weeks before they sent me to an neuro-opthomologist. Have you had any decrease > in the brightness of your vision? Every day I woke up and things looked like > someone was turning the dimmer switch down! Try looking at a very white object > with your unaffected eye and then look at it with the other? Did it turn a > dirty white? Are you sensitive to light? I had to wear sun glasses in the > house! Do you find you are having a hard time reading? Are the words jumping > around on the page or do you miss the words on your affected side? I would > mistake the number 11 for 1 for example. Good luck! First dose of solumedrol > killed the pain! > Diane W. > Orlando > "Dream as if you’ll live forever, live as if > you’ll die today." – James Dean
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The message <20001022150900.14956.00000…@ng-fk1.aol.com> from diw…@aol.comspamfree (Diwitt) contains these words: > For me the key to ON pain was that when I MOVED my eyeball side to side as if > to look at something the eyeball itself hurt.
Yup, I had that. I suspected ON but had a severe bout of denial… > Not the lids or the "orbit" > (socket) as the eye docs are prone to call it. It was extremely painful with an > excruciating headache as well.
I only had a mild ache but had a small blind spot the day I went to the Eye Hospital… > They treated me for a sinus infection
They said I had sinusitis but did not give any treatment…. > for two weeks before they sent me to an neuro-opthomologist.
over the four days of Easter Holiday 1997 I went from having 20/20 (6/6) vision in my left eye to zero perception of light… > Have you had any decrease > in the brightness of your vision? Every day I woke up and things looked like > someone was turning the dimmer switch down!
I could look at the sun and see *nothing* I eventually went to my own ER and asked a colleague to arrange admission. > Good luck! First dose of solumedrol killed the pain!
My pain also went when I started steroids but it was never that bad. — Helen D. Vecht: helenve…@zetnet.co.uk
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Hi Helen, I have been thinking about you and wondering how you are getting along. Glad to see your name. Gaylan "Helen Deborah Vecht" <helenve…@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:2000102300082885140@zetnet.co.uk…
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Hi Sharon! I had eye pain in my right eye that lasted for weeks. The neuro suspected optic neuritis. He sent me to an ophthalmologist in which case he indicated that M.S. has never touched my eyes. It was a form of neuralgia. Extremely painful! I get it off and on. More off would be better! By the way, it is a beautiful, cool sunny day here in Coquitlam, British Columbia. Happiness Diana shajon <sha…@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:jQEI5.3131$iY1.68661@sodalite.nbnet.nb.ca… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi to all…I have a ? > I have had a sinus infection for over a month. Also, for the last 3 days my > left eye > has been aching and is painful to touch. > Could this be from the sinus infection (which is on the same side) or could > it > be Optic Neuritis? I do not have any blurring or vision loss. Should I > be going back to the Doc.? > Thanks and I hope everyone is having a great weekend. It is sunny but > windy and cool here in New Brunswick, Canada. > Sharon
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The message <GSWI5.76918$YG5.54…@tor-nn1.netcom.ca> from "Alex and Gaylan" <alexandgay…@email.msn.com> contains these words: > Hi Helen, > I have been thinking about you and wondering how you are getting along. > Glad to see your name.
I’m fine, thanks. I’m *very* touched you’ve been thinking about me. I’m on Annual Leave from work at present. Prior to that I had been very busy and somewhat stressed. — Helen D. Vecht: helenve…@zetnet.co.uk
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If your upper row of teeth hurt or ache too, then it’s probably sinus. Neuralgia is extremely painful in any event, and may or many not be related to your MS. Roarke. "Diana Calder" <d.r.calder@home> wrote in message
news:wcYI5.505937$8u4.6348447@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Sharon! > I had eye pain in my right eye that lasted for weeks. The neuro suspected > optic neuritis. He sent me to an ophthalmologist in which case he indicated > that M.S. has never touched my eyes. It was a form of neuralgia. Extremely > painful! I get it off and on. More off would be better! By the way, it is > a beautiful, cool sunny day here in Coquitlam, British Columbia. > Happiness > Diana > shajon <sha…@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message > news:jQEI5.3131$iY1.68661@sodalite.nbnet.nb.ca… > > Hi to all…I have a ? > > I have had a sinus infection for over a month. Also, for the last 3 days > my > > left eye > > has been aching and is painful to touch. > > Could this be from the sinus infection (which is on the same side) or > could > > it > > be Optic Neuritis? I do not have any blurring or vision loss. Should I > > be going back to the Doc.? > > Thanks and I hope everyone is having a great weekend. It is sunny but > > windy and cool here in New Brunswick, Canada. > > Sharon
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I experienced ON in April of this year. The pain began in my right eye while I was helping to mow my mother’s yard on the riding mower, so I assumed a bit of dust had blown into it. The pain continued for two weeks, sometimes accompanied by headaches, dizziness, and nausea. As I had a mild sinus infection, well meaning friends and loved ones told me the pain was caused by the infection. After two weeks, I began losing vision in my affected eye. It took three days for it to leave completely. I saw nothing but total blackness, and a little light perception around the periphery. Again, I was told by loved ones it was nothing, just sinuses. I went to the doctor anyways. He didn’t even examine me, but sent me to an optmetrist, who told me I had an optical nerve inflammation, and he said the way I could tell it was the nerve that was inflamed was by the severe pain when i looked to the extreme left or right, not moving my head. He sent me to the neurologist, and on to the hospital I went for the solumedrol, which took care of the pain right away. Not everyone experiences pain with ON from my understanding. I just thought sharing my experience may be helpful to you. The doctors weren’t sure that my vision would return, but it has, very gradually. It is about 80% of what it had been. My colors are off too. And it is dim. I still experience pain, but it comes and goes and it isn’t bothersome for the most part. And when I get hot, its my vision that suffers first. Even a hot shower affects it. Bye! Tracy
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Does your eye hurt to move it???If so then your probably having an optic neuroritis attack?Thats how I know i’m having one.
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I’ve had recurring episodes that include eye pain for some years now. I just had one over the weekend. Had a new MRI on Thursday, and by Friday was in bed, incapacitated by the pain. I don’t know if the MRI caused it or not. Pain was initially in both eyes. Burning, aching pain deep inside the eyes and behind them. It grew and extended back inside my head. Felt like the underside of my brain was on fire. My head ached and my neck was stiff. The roof of my mouth was swollen, so my dentures would not stay in. Everything hurt – light, noise, movement – everything. All I could do was lie still. Painkillers didn’t help, and neither did hotpacks. Sleep helped a bit, when possible. This continued all weekend, until Sunday night. The only thing that helped at all was cold packs around my head and eyes and ice cubes in the mouth. I slept with ice packs on my head. I was so disoriented and confused, I didn’t remember about the ice packs until Sunday. Then Sunday night, after the pain had subsided a bit, my neck had gone into spasm, so I took a Valium. Today, there’s just a hint of the pain left, and my eyes are a bit blurrier than usual. Feeling pretty exhausted and "out of it" still. This has been repeated many times during the past few years, and I don’t know what it is. Carmel – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Lynne_Da…@bearmail.baylor.edu wrote: > Hi, Sharon. > Your pain could be caused from either the sinus infection or ON, — but > I would have it checked out, because treatment would be different > depending upon what was causing it. > That brings to mind something that happened recently to Kelli, (my > daughter,) who is prone to ON when she has an exacerbation. > She had pain in her right eye, which is usually indicative of ON for > her, and some problems with focus adjustment from near to far. She > assumed that this was another adventure with ON. This was late on a > Friday, and over the weekend she developed a really sore throat and some > accompanying sinus "stuff". She went to the hospital, (she is an RN,) > and discovered she had strep and got treatment. > Her neuro told her on Monday that the eye problems would probably go > away when the strep was gone, and sure enough they did. > Remember that everything that happens to your body isn’t caused by the > MS, so you have to be careful not to overlook another very real problem > by assuming it is MS-related. > Good luck. ‘Hope you feel better really soon. I enjoyed your intro. > – Lynne > In article <jQEI5.3131$iY1.68…@sodalite.nbnet.nb.ca>, > "shajon" <sha…@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: > > Hi to all…I have a ? > > I have had a sinus infection for over a month. Also, for the last 3 > days my > > left eye > > has been aching and is painful to touch. > > Could this be from the sinus infection (which is on the same side) or > could > > it > > be Optic Neuritis? I do not have any blurring or vision loss. Should I > > be going back to the Doc.? > > Thanks and I hope everyone is having a great weekend. It is sunny but > > windy and cool here in New Brunswick, Canada. > > Sharon > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
– " Don’t wait for a light to appear at the end of the tunnel. Stride down there and light the bloody thing yourself." web sites at: http://connect.to/carmel http://welcome.to/jaragun.ginger
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Carmel ~ I can tell you what it is — it’s an extended MS attack!! I have this same, identical pain and I do mean pain at least once a month! I do the same thing, pack myself with cold packs – I even have one for my feet. I take two vicodin ES and a Xanax along with 600 mg neurontin THEN I close the drapes, turn off the phone, tv and computer. Chris checks on me ocassionally but otherwise I check out for about 12 hours. My doc knows when I tell him I have had a spell of the eye/head pain that I have been to the depths of h..l. Back to the eye pain. My right has had the worse case of ON therefore it is sore to the touch all the time. If I shut my eyes real tight it sends pain to the back of my head like a shot. Remember me posting about the EEG that was done last month? That set off the pain and took about 10 days to heal. BTW, EEG was normal – I understand that a "normal EEG" can give a tentative (guess work) diagnosis of MS or Alzheimers! I don’t think I have a choice. I had another MRI done Oct 2nd and will get the results on the 9th. The neuro already said he believes the falling backwards/passing out is caused by a lesion in the brain stem. I believe that too. — Robbie C. Trinity, TX ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Three A’s of life: Acknowledge. Accept. Adjust. "Carmel" <car…@cyberwizards.com.au> wrote in message
news:39F3A9D5.5F4912FB@cyberwizards.com.au… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve had recurring episodes that include eye pain for some years now. I > just had one over the weekend. Had a new MRI on Thursday, and by Friday > was in bed, incapacitated by the pain. I don’t know if the MRI caused > it or not. > Pain was initially in both eyes. Burning, aching pain deep inside the > eyes and behind them. It grew and extended back inside my head. Felt > like the underside of my brain was on fire. My head ached and my neck > was stiff. The roof of my mouth was swollen, so my dentures would not > stay in. Everything hurt – light, noise, movement – everything. All I > could do was lie still. Painkillers didn’t help, and neither did > hotpacks. Sleep helped a bit, when possible. > This continued all weekend, until Sunday night. The only thing that > helped at all was cold packs around my head and eyes and ice cubes in > the mouth. I slept with ice packs on my head. I was so disoriented and > confused, I didn’t remember about the ice packs until Sunday. Then > Sunday night, after the pain had subsided a bit, my neck had gone into > spasm, so I took a Valium. > Today, there’s just a hint of the pain left, and my eyes are a bit > blurrier than usual. Feeling pretty exhausted and "out of it" still. > This has been repeated many times during the past few years, and I don’t > know what it is. > Carmel > Lynne_Da…@bearmail.baylor.edu wrote: > > Hi, Sharon. > > Your pain could be caused from either the sinus infection or ON, — but > > I would have it checked out, because treatment would be different > > depending upon what was causing it. > > That brings to mind something that happened recently to Kelli, (my > > daughter,) who is prone to ON when she has an exacerbation. > > She had pain in her right eye, which is usually indicative of ON for > > her, and some problems with focus adjustment from near to far. She > > assumed that this was another adventure with ON. This was late on a > > Friday, and over the weekend she developed a really sore throat and some > > accompanying sinus "stuff". She went to the hospital, (she is an RN,) > > and discovered she had strep and got treatment. > > Her neuro told her on Monday that the eye problems would probably go > > away when the strep was gone, and sure enough they did. > > Remember that everything that happens to your body isn’t caused by the > > MS, so you have to be careful not to overlook another very real problem > > by assuming it is MS-related. > > Good luck. ‘Hope you feel better really soon. I enjoyed your intro. > > – Lynne > > In article <jQEI5.3131$iY1.68…@sodalite.nbnet.nb.ca>, > > "shajon" <sha…@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: > > > Hi to all…I have a ? > > > I have had a sinus infection for over a month. Also, for the last 3 > > days my > > > left eye > > > has been aching and is painful to touch. > > > Could this be from the sinus infection (which is on the same side) or > > could > > > it > > > be Optic Neuritis? I do not have any blurring or vision loss. Should I > > > be going back to the Doc.? > > > Thanks and I hope everyone is having a great weekend. It is sunny but > > > windy and cool here in New Brunswick, Canada. > > > Sharon > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > — > " Don’t wait for a light to appear at the end of the tunnel. > Stride down there and light the bloody thing yourself." > web sites at: > http://connect.to/carmel > http://welcome.to/jaragun.ginger
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Thanks for this Robbie. I’ll talk to the neuro about it on Friday & let you know what happens. Carmel chrrob <chr…@wt.net> wrote in article <39f3d63…@data.wt.net>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Carmel ~ > I can tell you what it is — it’s an extended MS attack!! I have this same, > identical pain and I do mean pain at least once a month! > I do the same thing, pack myself with cold packs – I even have one for my > feet. I take two vicodin ES and a Xanax along with 600 mg neurontin THEN I > close the drapes, turn off the phone, tv and computer. Chris checks on me > ocassionally but otherwise I check out for about 12 hours. > My doc knows when I tell him I have had a spell of the eye/head pain that I > have been to the depths of h..l. > Back to the eye pain. My right has had the worse case of ON therefore it is > sore to the touch all the time. If I shut my eyes real tight it sends pain > to the back of my head like a shot. > Remember me posting about the EEG that was done last month? That set off > the pain and took about 10 days to heal. BTW, EEG was normal – I understand > that a "normal EEG" can give a tentative (guess work) diagnosis of MS or > Alzheimers! I don’t think I have a choice. > I had another MRI done Oct 2nd and will get the results on the 9th. The > neuro already said he believes the falling backwards/passing out is caused > by a lesion in the brain stem. I believe that too. > — > Robbie C. > Trinity, TX > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Three A’s of life: > Acknowledge. > Accept. > Adjust. > "Carmel" <car…@cyberwizards.com.au> wrote in message > news:39F3A9D5.5F4912FB@cyberwizards.com.au… > > I’ve had recurring episodes that include eye pain for some years now. I > > just had one over the weekend. Had a new MRI on Thursday, and by Friday > > was in bed, incapacitated by the pain. I don’t know if the MRI caused > > it or not. > > Pain was initially in both eyes. Burning, aching pain deep inside the > > eyes and behind them. It grew and extended back inside my head. Felt > > like the underside of my brain was on fire. My head ached and my neck > > was stiff. The roof of my mouth was swollen, so my dentures would not > > stay in. Everything hurt – light, noise, movement – everything. All I > > could do was lie still. Painkillers didn’t help, and neither did > > hotpacks. Sleep helped a bit, when possible. > > This continued all weekend, until Sunday night. The only thing that > > helped at all was cold packs around my head and eyes and ice cubes in > > the mouth. I slept with ice packs on my head. I was so disoriented and > > confused, I didn’t remember about the ice packs until Sunday. Then > > Sunday night, after the pain had subsided a bit, my neck had gone into > > spasm, so I took a Valium. > > Today, there’s just a hint of the pain left, and my eyes are a bit > > blurrier than usual. Feeling pretty exhausted and "out of it" still. > > This has been repeated many times during the past few years, and I don’t > > know what it is. > > Carmel > > Lynne_Da…@bearmail.baylor.edu wrote: > > > Hi, Sharon. > > > Your pain could be caused from either the sinus infection or ON, — but > > > I would have it checked out, because treatment would be different > > > depending upon what was causing it. > > > That brings to mind something that happened recently to Kelli, (my > > > daughter,) who is prone to ON when she has an exacerbation. > > > She had pain in her right eye, which is usually indicative of ON for > > > her, and some problems with focus adjustment from near to far. She > > > assumed that this was another adventure with ON. This was late on a > > > Friday, and over the weekend she developed a really sore throat and some > > > accompanying sinus "stuff". She went to the hospital, (she is an RN,) > > > and discovered she had strep and got treatment. > > > Her neuro told her on Monday that the eye problems would probably go > > > away when the strep was gone, and sure enough they did. > > > Remember that everything that happens to your body isn’t caused by the > > > MS, so you have to be careful not to overlook another very real problem > > > by assuming it is MS-related. > > > Good luck. ‘Hope you feel better really soon. I enjoyed your intro. > > > – Lynne > > > In article <jQEI5.3131$iY1.68…@sodalite.nbnet.nb.ca>, > > > "shajon" <sha…@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: > > > > Hi to all…I have a ? > > > > I have had a sinus infection for over a month. Also, for the last 3 > > > days my > > > > left eye > > > > has been aching and is painful to touch. > > > > Could this be from the sinus infection (which is on the same side) or > > > could > > > > it > > > > be Optic Neuritis? I do not have any blurring or vision loss. Should I > > > > be going back to the Doc.? > > > > Thanks and I hope everyone is having a great weekend. It is sunny but > > > > windy and cool here in New Brunswick, Canada. > > > > Sharon > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > Before you buy. > > — > > " Don’t wait for a light to appear at the end of the tunnel. > > Stride down there and light the bloody thing yourself." > > web sites at: > > http://connect.to/carmel > > http://welcome.to/jaragun.ginger
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> Also, for the last 3 days my >left eye >has been aching and is painful to touch. >Could this be from the sinus infection (which is on the same side) or could >it >be Optic Neuritis?
For me the key to ON pain was that when I MOVED my eyeball side to side as if to look at something the eyeball itself hurt. Not the lids or the "orbit" (socket) as the eye docs are prone to call it. It was extremely painful with an excruciating headache as well. They treated me for a sinus infection for two weeks before they sent me to an neuro-opthomologist. Have you had any decrease in the brightness of your vision? Every day I woke up and things looked like someone was turning the dimmer switch down! Try looking at a very white object with your unaffected eye and then look at it with the other? Did it turn a dirty white? Are you sensitive to light? I had to wear sun glasses in the house! Do you find you are having a hard time reading? Are the words jumping around on the page or do you miss the words on your affected side? I would mistake the number 11 for 1 for example. Good luck! First dose of solumedrol killed the pain! Diane W. Orlando "Dream as if you’ll live forever, live as if you’ll die today." – James Dean
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Hi to all…I have a ? I have had a sinus infection for over a month. Also, for the last 3 days my left eye has been aching and is painful to touch. Could this be from the sinus infection (which is on the same side) or could it be Optic Neuritis? I do not have any blurring or vision loss. Should I be going back to the Doc.? Thanks and I hope everyone is having a great weekend. It is sunny but windy and cool here in New Brunswick, Canada. Sharon
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Hi, Sharon. Your pain could be caused from either the sinus infection or ON, — but I would have it checked out, because treatment would be different depending upon what was causing it. That brings to mind something that happened recently to Kelli, (my daughter,) who is prone to ON when she has an exacerbation. She had pain in her right eye, which is usually indicative of ON for her, and some problems with focus adjustment from near to far. She assumed that this was another adventure with ON. This was late on a Friday, and over the weekend she developed a really sore throat and some accompanying sinus "stuff". She went to the hospital, (she is an RN,) and discovered she had strep and got treatment. Her neuro told her on Monday that the eye problems would probably go away when the strep was gone, and sure enough they did. Remember that everything that happens to your body isn’t caused by the MS, so you have to be careful not to overlook another very real problem by assuming it is MS-related. Good luck. ‘Hope you feel better really soon. I enjoyed your intro. – Lynne In article <jQEI5.3131$iY1.68…@sodalite.nbnet.nb.ca>, "shajon" <sha…@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi to all…I have a ? > I have had a sinus infection for over a month. Also, for the last 3 days my > left eye > has been aching and is painful to touch. > Could this be from the sinus infection (which is on the same side) or could > it > be Optic Neuritis? I do not have any blurring or vision loss. Should I > be going back to the Doc.? > Thanks and I hope everyone is having a great weekend. It is sunny but > windy and cool here in New Brunswick, Canada. > Sharon
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Reid’s excellent insight on sinusitis and treatment is detailed in the latest newsletter from www.allergybuyersclub.com. Recommend his writings to all. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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I would like to join this newsgroup but don’t know how – I have lots of information on sinuses – because of all my sinus problems – could someone E-Mail me and explain how I can join.
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On 04 May 2000 03:25:05 GMT, daalv…@aol.com (DAalvaro) wrote: >I would like to join this newsgroup but don’t know how – I have lots of >information on sinuses – because of all my sinus problems – could someone >E-Mail me and explain how I can join.
You’ve already "joined." I use quotes here because unlike with an email-based discussion group, sometimes called a listserv, you don’t have to send anybody an email message asking to join. This is a Usenet newsgroup (public discussion group), one of tens of thousands on varying subjects. To participate you just do as you’re doing — read and respond to others’ posts and leave your own if you like. If you have something to share, it’s best to post it publicly, for all to see, rather than just to one person through email, though email can be appropriate for personal messages. Also, this newsgroup like some others (not all) has an FAQ, which is a Frequently Asked Questions (and answers) compendium. It’s good practice to read this first to see what information others have already shared here. You can find it by simply looking for the message titled "Alt.Support.Sinusitis FAQ" or on the Web at http://www.sinusitis.homestead.
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once upon a time in a time long ago there were various respiratory vaccines available. It was simple to test the patient and see which one he reacted to and then desensitize him. What I found this useful for was the otherwise healthy patient – often an athlete – who got really sick with what was otherwise a simple sore throat or sinus infection and then got well with antibiotics. Aparrantly he had some sort of "aberrant " reaction to the bacterial products. Presumably the vaccine increased his resistance. The mistake that was made was in trying to use this to prevent any infection. In my hands didn’t work that way. I wish I could get the stuff now. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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In article <20000309222254.17317.00001…@ng-xe1.aol.com>, entcons…@aol.com (ENTconsult) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> once upon a time in a time long ago there were various respiratory vaccines > available. It was simple to test the patient and see which one he reacted to > and then desensitize him. > What I found this useful for was the otherwise healthy patient – often an > athlete – who got really sick with what was otherwise a simple sore throat or > sinus infection and then got well with antibiotics. > Aparrantly he had some sort of "aberrant " reaction to the bacterial products. > Presumably the vaccine increased his resistance. > The mistake that was made was in trying to use this to prevent any infection. > In my hands didn’t work that way. > I wish I could get the stuff now. > Murray Grossan, M.D. > http://www.ent-consult.com
Thanks for your response. The vaccine is still available from Bayor, but they are going to quit making it in about a year. I have recently started getting it. What I don’t understand is that if there is a good chance it can work for sinusitis, why is it being taken off the market? To answer my own question, there are no controlled studies, so the FDA is going to withdraw approval. It seems like that if enough patients were interested and convinced their doctors to try it, this company or another might be more inclined to put out the money for the studies. I’ve been doing research for several years and just found out about this a couple of months ago. I don’t think too many patients are aware of its existance. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:54:47 GMT, kath…@my-deja.com wrote: >In article <20000309222254.17317.00001…@ng-xe1.aol.com>, > entcons…@aol.com (ENTconsult) wrote: >> once upon a time in a time long ago there were various respiratory >vaccines >> available. It was simple to test the patient and see which one he >reacted to >> and then desensitize him. >> What I found this useful for was the otherwise healthy patient – often >an >> athlete – who got really sick with what was otherwise a simple sore >throat or >> sinus infection and then got well with antibiotics. >> Aparrantly he had some sort of "aberrant " reaction to the bacterial >products. >> Presumably the vaccine increased his resistance. >> The mistake that was made was in trying to use this to prevent any >infection. >> In my hands didn’t work that way. >> I wish I could get the stuff now. >> Murray Grossan, M.D. >> http://www.ent-consult.com >Thanks for your response. The vaccine is still available from Bayor, >but they are going to quit making it in about a year. I have recently >started getting it. What I don’t understand is that if there is a >good chance it can work for sinusitis, why is it being taken off the >market? To answer my own question, there are no controlled studies, so >the FDA is going to withdraw approval. It seems like that if enough >patients were interested and convinced their doctors to try it, this >company or another might be more inclined to put out the money for the >studies. I’ve been doing research for several years and just found >out about this a couple of months ago. I don’t think too many patients >are aware of its existance. >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy.
A couple of years ago the ent doctor prescribed me a treatment with a ‘vaccine’ produced in Switzerland (rather expensive) – I can’t remember the commercial name. The doctor said it was a ‘new’ product. This ‘vaccine’ was to be taken by ORAL route and was composed by various antigens (i.e. bacterial components) extracted from the most frequent bacterial species involved in infection of sinuses. In my opinion, the weak side of this product is the administration route: it is well known that antigens by oral route can elicit a good immunity in the gut, but they are almost ineffective to induce immunity in the blood or in other districts of the organism. I had no immediate or long-tem benefits following this treatment. ciao aetius —— ANTI-SPAM: In order to send me e-mail, please remove all the ‘x’s occurrences in my address. ——
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A couple of years ago the ent doctor prescribed me a treatment with a > ‘vaccine’ produced in Switzerland (rather expensive) – I can’t > remember the commercial name. The doctor said it was a ‘new’ product. > This ‘vaccine’ was to be taken by ORAL route and was composed by > various antigens (i.e. bacterial components) extracted from the most > frequent bacterial species involved in infection of sinuses. > In my opinion, the weak side of this product is the administration > route: it is well known that antigens by oral route can elicit a good > immunity in the gut, but they are almost ineffective to induce > immunity in the blood or in other districts of the organism. > I had no immediate or long-tem benefits following this treatment. > ciao > aetius
====================================================== The vaccine that I am talking about is taken by injection and builds up gradually like allergy shots. It’s actual name is "mixed resjpiratory vaccine." I haven’t taken it long enough to know if it works, but the doctor who is giving it to me said it works in about 50% of the cases. Seems like it’s worth a shot (litterally!), but even if it works, I can only take it a year, since they aren’t going to make it any more. I don’t know if that is long enough. I’d like to know when Dr. Grossan used it, how long did it take to be effective, and how long did the results last? Kathy Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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Have any of you heard of a respiratory bacteria vaccine? I just found out about its availability recently. It has been around for over 30 years and reportedly there have been some positive results. However, there are no controlled studies, so the FDA is taking it off the market in a little over a year. I’ve searched the "net" and can’t find much, but am going to a doctor who has used it and is willing to try it on me. As a matter of fact I go for the 2nd shot today. From what I can find out there are no controlled studies because most of the results are subjective reports from patients. I guess my question is this: If there is a vaccine that would maybe prevent respiratory infections (including sinusitis), why has it not been used more? I’ve followed this group for about 2 years and never heard anything about it. If anybody knows more or has any thoughts about this subject, I would appreciate it. Kathyw Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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Kathy, Which respiratory bacteria is it active against-Haemophilus, Streptococcus pneumoniae, Moraxella? firstly I don’t think there is a vaccine for Moraxella as yet. Children are routinely vaccinated against Haemophilus type 1. For the non-typable strains that regularly cause adult sinusitis I don’t think there is a vaccine. So what is in this vaccine? Heather Collins UK Mikecheath…@oakwellmount.freeserve.co.uk – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<kath…@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:89h7ip$8bc$1@nnrp1.deja.com… > Have any of you heard of a respiratory bacteria vaccine? > I just found out about its availability recently. It > has been around for over 30 years and reportedly there > have been some positive results. However, there are > no controlled studies, so the FDA is taking it off the > market in a little over a year. I’ve searched the "net" > and can’t find much, but am going to a doctor who has > used it and is willing to try it on me. As a matter of > fact I go for the 2nd shot today. From what I can find > out there are no controlled studies because most of the > results are subjective reports from patients. > I guess my question is this: If there is a vaccine that > would maybe prevent respiratory infections (including > sinusitis), why has it not been used more? > I’ve followed this group for about 2 years and never > heard anything about it. > If anybody knows more or has any thoughts about this > subject, I would appreciate it. > Kathyw > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
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I have heard of a study that originated in Southampton, England. Apparently they have been using this as a treatment for some time. Please post it to the group or sned any more information to me personally. I am very interested in this also. Julie
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In article <21720-38BDF1A0-…@storefull-297.iap.bryant.webtv.net>, julie…@webtv.net (Julie Heinz) wrote: > I have heard of a study that originated in Southampton, England. > Apparently they have been using this as a treatment for some time. > Please post it to the group or sned any more information to me > personally. I am very interested in this also. > Julie
Julie, I really don’t know anything about the study you mention. I wish I did; I can’t find any information about the vaccine except what my doctor gave me. I ran accross it kind of by accident while pursiuring something else . A guy from Harvard sent the information to my doctor–it’s a long story. Right now I can’t find the copy of the informa- tion , but it is for several of the bacteria that have been implicated in sinusitis and says that it is one of the indications. There is subjective evidence that patients benefit from it, but nothing objective. These days, if you can’t measure it, it seems that it doesn’t exist. It must have been used before antibiotics were readily available. Again, I just don’t know. Supposedly, it is safe, but there was some concern about kidney damage since it contains strep; however, all of the bacteria are dead. The doctor I’m seeing doesn’t think that will be a problem, but he is going to check my urine periodically to make sure. I’ll post again if I find out more. Kathyw Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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In article <89hg5r$8g…@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Mike & Heather Collins" <mikeheath…@oakwellmount.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Kathy, Which respiratory bacteria is it active against-Haemophilus, > Streptococcus pneumoniae, Moraxella? firstly I don’t think there is a > vaccine for Moraxella as yet. Children are routinely vaccinated against > Haemophilus type 1. For the non-typable strains that regularly cause adult > sinusitis I don’t think there is a vaccine. So what is in this vaccine?
I had never heard of it either. How I found out about it is a very long story. I know it contains Haemophilus, Streptococcus, and Staphylococus. There are several others, but I’m not sure what they are. I’ll try to find out. Kathyw Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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It might be a fistula. I guess you can have a fistula anywhere. When he says antibiotic ointment does he mean Bactroban. . Bactroban was initially developed for treatment of Staph aureus in the noses of hospital staff so as to prevent it being passed to vulnerable patients. Indiscriminate use has meant that Staph aureus resistance has been passed to sensitive strains and there are now numerous warnings to limit its use. You can check this out with your hospital infection control lab. Heather Collins UK Mikecheath…@oakwellmount.freeserve.co.uk J Slkw <js…@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:24648-38B701A0-26@storefull-222.iap.bryant.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Has anyone ever heard of fistula in your nose? I have had a bad cold and > sinusitis for 2 weeks.I first had the cold, I then went on a 12 hour > plane ride(stupid). I developed a bad sinus infection.I have had bad > pain in my face, nose and upper teeth now. I called the ENT on > wednesdayl He called me back, not able to see me . I work in a > hospital and he happened to walk by me today. He looked inside my nose , > and said that I have fistula? He said that it’s like cuts inside both > nostrils. He wants me to put antibiotic ointment in there. Des any one > have any input?Thanks
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Has anyone ever heard of fistula in your nose? I have had a bad cold and sinusitis for 2 weeks.I first had the cold, I then went on a 12 hour plane ride(stupid). I developed a bad sinus infection.I have had bad pain in my face, nose and upper teeth now. I called the ENT on wednesdayl He called me back, not able to see me . I work in a hospital and he happened to walk by me today. He looked inside my nose , and said that I have fistula? He said that it’s like cuts inside both nostrils. He wants me to put antibiotic ointment in there. Des any one have any input?Thanks
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: I have sinusitis and I am on my second round of antibiotics. My head is : really : hurting and it feels like a migraine. Can sinusitis give us a migraine. Don’t : if I should use Maxalt or not. Really is hurting. Does anyone else have or had : a similar problem? I recently got through a round of sinusitis which followed the flu. I had a *heck* of a time figuring out if the pain in my head was from sinus or migraine. Sometimes I treated with NSAIDs, sometimes with Imitrex. Sometimes it abated, sometimes not. If you’ve got enough Maxalt and there’s no other reason to limit your intake of it, I’d say try it. BTW, the *best* treatment I’ve found for temporary relief of sinus problems is to steam your head. Boil a kettle and pour the water into a mixing bowl which you’ve set on a table. Sit down at the table and put your head over the steaming bowl, with a towel over all, like a tent. Give yourself breaks if it’s too hot. Inhale through your nose as much as possible. Just let your whole face steam and drip into the bowl (from interior and exterior) until it cools down or you can’t stand it anymore. I find that splashing cold water on your face right after you come out is a very invigorating experience. Repeat a few times a day when your sinuses are at their worst. If you find your skin is getting chapped (or if you have a problem with dry skin), apply a moisturizer on your face afterwards. Good luck! Priscilla — Zone 6 urban gardener, backyard birder and adoptive mom to: Caley (little polydactyl calico sweetie, loves to hunt bugs or groom anyone) Benjamin (skittish MH tuxedo boy with a big plumy tail, my Prince Charming)
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Carole, Whenever I have sinus pain, it sets off a migraine. I have to treat both problems. If Maxalt worked for me, I would use it. Lisa Dr. Peter and Lisa Gardner www.rexall.com/gardner 1-800-404-2646
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have sinusitis and I am on my second round of antibiotics. My head is really hurting and it feels like a migraine. Can sinusitis give us a migraine. Don’t if I should use Maxalt or not. Really is hurting. Does anyone else have or had a similar problem? Thanks, Carole W.
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I have sinusitis and I am on my second round of antibiotics. My head is really hurting and it feels like a migraine. Can sinusitis give us a migraine. Don’t if I should use Maxalt or not. Really is hurting. Does anyone else have or had a similar problem? Thanks, Carole W.
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: Priscilla! How I’ve missed you. –Julianne Thanks, Julianne! :-) I’m cautiously dipping my toe into the water again, trying to find a way to be here without getting caught up into all the elements here that made me so crazy last year that I had to go away. It’s lovely to be welcomed by you and all the other folks who have responded so kindly to seeing my name here again. Priscilla — Zone 6 urban gardener, backyard birder and adoptive mom to: Caley (little polydactyl calico sweetie, loves to hunt bugs or groom anyone) Benjamin (skittish MH tuxedo boy with a big plumy tail, my Prince Charming)
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Priscilla! How I’ve missed you. –Julianne
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As for me, I’d take the maxalt. It certainly could be a migraine. I’ve gotten them from sinus problems. Good luck. Let us know what happens. Di
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: I’m cautiously dipping my toe into the water again, trying to find a way : to be here without getting caught up into all the elements here that made : me so crazy last year that I had to go away. : It’s lovely to be welcomed by you and all the other folks who have : responded so kindly to seeing my name here again. : Welcome back, Priscilla. I don’t know if you remember me, but I : remember you well. 
So, did you get rid of the squirrels in your : attic? <g Thanks, Brie! Of course I remember you! I had a nice long discussion of squirrels and other wildlife all keyed in, and then I hit the wrong key and it was gobbled up. *sigh* The short version is that the squirrels are mostly gone but occasionally come back to check out the territory. Another shot of fox pee up through the ceiling may be in order before breeding season. Priscilla — Zone 6 urban gardener, backyard birder and adoptive mom to: Caley (little polydactyl calico sweetie, loves to hunt bugs or groom anyone) Benjamin (skittish MH tuxedo boy with a big plumy tail, my Prince Charming)
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Can sinusitis give us a migraine. Don’t if I should use Maxalt or not. Really is hurting. Does anyone else have or had a similar problem? Thanks, Carole W.
Carole, I hope you’re feeling better. will write privately. Take care and God bless. Much Love, Brie ~Let God love you through others and let God love others through you.~ D.M. Street
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I’m cautiously dipping my toe into the water again, trying to find a way to be here without getting caught up into all the elements here that made me so crazy last year that I had to go away. It’s lovely to be welcomed by you and all the other folks who have responded so kindly to seeing my name here again. Priscilla
Welcome back, Priscilla. I don’t know if you remember me, but I remember you well. So, did you get rid of the squirrels in your attic? <g Much Love, Brie ~Let God love you through others and let God love others through you.~ D.M. Street
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Where and how : to you get fox pee? You can also buy it online from http://www.predatorpee.com. :-)
I KNEW IT!!! The internet has EVERYTHING!! Red
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My husband and I spent all last year trying to breed. Fox pee through the ceiling just didn’t do it for us, sorry.
I am now officially incapacitated with laughter!! Sides have split, thighs have been slapped and spittle now covers my terminal! Red
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Trust me – CAT pee on your head doesn’t stop Clusters – I speak from = experience . . .=20
Michael – I am afraid to ask!! Red
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Where and how to you get fox pee? Curious hugs from Di From a fox, silly! You put diapers on them and it soaks up the pee. Then you rub it on your doctor’s head until he gives you meds that work. kadee
kadee – you are a laugh riot!!!! :D Red
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From a fox, silly! You put diapers on them and it soaks up the pee. Then you rub it on your doctor’s head until he gives you meds that work.
Lavon
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: If you’d ever smelled it, you wouldn’t ask these questions. It smells : very much like skunk. Blech! : : i know this is OT, but I’m interested in a strange sort of way. Where and how : to you get fox pee? : Curious hugs from : Di There are a number of garden supply catalogues that carry it. You can also buy it online from http://www.predatorpee.com. :-) After I bought mine, I heard that the methods of collecting it are inhumane, but then later I heard the opposite. So I don’t know if it’s unkind to the foxes or not. Priscilla — Zone 6 urban gardener, backyard birder and adoptive mom to: Caley (little polydactyl calico sweetie, loves to hunt bugs or groom anyone) Benjamin (skittish MH tuxedo boy with a big plumy tail, my Prince Charming)
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Another shot of fox pee up through the ceiling may be in order before breeding season. Hello?? For migraines?? or to get rid of squirrels? I am SOOO confused (again) :) Red
Hmmm is it me, or are you ALWAYS confused Just Kidding 
Hugs, Tammy
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Another shot of fox pee up through the ceiling may be in order before breeding season.
My husband and I spent all last year trying to breed. Fox pee through the ceiling just didn’t do it for us, sorry. Warm and goofy hugs, Starbug
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It’s lovely to be welcomed by you and all the other folks who have responded so kindly to seeing my name here again. Priscilla
Now that I know how my program works, I can also welcome you back. I’ve been wondering where you were. — Suzie Eisfelder
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; Trust me – CAT pee on your head doesn’t stop Clusters – I speak from ; experience . . . ; ROTFLMAO This is a good one! Lea
; Red, let me help you resolve this confusion. Priscilla’s squirrels ; were ; routed by fox pee a season ago. There was much discussion about this, ; but ; no one, to my recollection, ever considered trying it for migraine ; relief. ; What an idea! How many takers, I wonder? Do we get the foxes to pee ; on our ; heads? Perhaps rubbing it on our foreheads would do the trick…. ; hmmm…. ; ; ; Another shot of fox pee up through ; the ceiling may be in order before breeding season. ; ; ; Hello?? For migraines?? or to get rid of squirrels? I am SOOO ; confused ; (again) :) ; Red ; ; ; — Lea Jackson, Montgomery, Alabama http://www.mindspring.com/~ljackson/leahome.html
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If you’d ever smelled it, you wouldn’t ask these questions. It smells very much like skunk. Blech!
i know this is OT, but I’m interested in a strange sort of way. Where and how to you get fox pee? Curious hugs from Di
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: Red, let me help you resolve this confusion. Priscilla’s squirrels were : routed by fox pee a season ago. There was much discussion about this, but : no one, to my recollection, ever considered trying it for migraine relief. : What an idea! How many takers, I wonder? Do we get the foxes to pee on our : heads? Perhaps rubbing it on our foreheads would do the trick…. hmmm…. If you’d ever smelled it, you wouldn’t ask these questions. It smells very much like skunk. Blech! Priscilla — Zone 6 urban gardener, backyard birder and adoptive mom to: Caley (little polydactyl calico sweetie, loves to hunt bugs or groom anyone) Benjamin (skittish MH tuxedo boy with a big plumy tail, my Prince Charming)
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: Another shot of fox pee up through : the ceiling may be in order before breeding season. : Hello?? For migraines?? or to get rid of squirrels? I am SOOO confused : (again) :) LOL! To discourage the squirrels, for whom fox is a predator. ("Uh oh! What do I smell? It’s Brer Fox! Run for your lives!") Priscilla — Zone 6 urban gardener, backyard birder and adoptive mom to: Caley (little polydactyl calico sweetie, loves to hunt bugs or groom anyone) Benjamin (skittish MH tuxedo boy with a big plumy tail, my Prince Charming)
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Trust me – CAT pee on your head doesn’t stop Clusters – I speak from experience . . . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Red, let me help you resolve this confusion. Priscilla’s squirrels were routed by fox pee a season ago. There was much discussion about this, but no one, to my recollection, ever considered trying it for migraine relief. What an idea! How many takers, I wonder? Do we get the foxes to pee on our heads? Perhaps rubbing it on our foreheads would do the trick…. hmmm…. Another shot of fox pee up through the ceiling may be in order before breeding season. Hello?? For migraines?? or to get rid of squirrels? I am SOOO confused (again) :) Red
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Another shot of fox pee up through the ceiling may be in order before breeding season.
Hello?? For migraines?? or to get rid of squirrels? I am SOOO confused (again) :) Red
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Red, let me help you resolve this confusion. Priscilla’s squirrels were routed by fox pee a season ago. There was much discussion about this, but no one, to my recollection, ever considered trying it for migraine relief. What an idea! How many takers, I wonder? Do we get the foxes to pee on our heads? Perhaps rubbing it on our foreheads would do the trick…. hmmm…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Another shot of fox pee up through the ceiling may be in order before breeding season. Hello?? For migraines?? or to get rid of squirrels? I am SOOO confused (again) :) Red
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I had FESS two months ago and then got another infection, had more antibiotics (12 times in 12 months) and decided to try something new.
My acupuncturist rocks. When she does the needles I get totally uncongested. She put me on the candida diet (just like Sinus Survival suggested), tons of acidophilus, and an herb called Welcome Fragrance. Three weeks without sugar has just about broken my spirit, but I feel *tremendous*. It’s working. And I was heartened to see a copy of Sinus Survival on her bookshelf. -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?a ****- Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser – FREE –
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Those are most of the things that are helping me. If you want to be sure it’s working, just spend a day or two eating carbohydrates and see how you feel. You’ll be amazed. I have also eliminated mushrooms, vinegar and all wines. (killing me)But, I feel so much better. Kadiatu B. Hodges <kbhod…@uncg.edu> wrote in message news:l_D24.2288$B5.760242@WReNphoon3… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had FESS two months ago and then got another infection, had more > antibiotics (12 times in 12 months) and decided to try something new. > My acupuncturist rocks. When she does the needles I get totally uncongested. > She put me on the candida diet (just like Sinus Survival suggested), tons of > acidophilus, and an herb called Welcome Fragrance. Three weeks without sugar > has just about broken my spirit, but I feel *tremendous*. It’s working. And > I was heartened to see a copy of Sinus Survival on her bookshelf. > -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?a ****- > Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser – FREE –
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Acupuncture helped my daughter that had sinus problems. The needles have to be heated when they are in you. If you have sinusitis, it will probably be necessary to go about three-four times a week at a minimum, for two weeks. You should know by then whether or not it will be effective. One thing is that our acupuncturist gave our daughter a special herb that they made, to put in her nose. That really helped. It was like nose drops, but you swallow it when it runs down the throat. So, it is hard to separate the actual acupuncture treatments from the herbal nose drop. BL
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"cecelia" <csons…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6f6bd937.0207121012.2fad2326@posting.google.com… > Has anyone tried acupuncture and, if so, what were the results? Also, > any other thoughts or advice would be most appreciated.
Many years ago I did, the acupuncturist told me it could solve my nasal/sinus problems. I had it for many months, I don’t remember exactly how long, probably over a year. (This was about 20 years ago, so i don’t remember the details.) It didn’t help me at all.
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" MS" <m…@nospam.com> wrote in message <news:uiv1ut1alpfk5f@corp.supernews.com>… > "cecelia" <csons…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:6f6bd937.0207121012.2fad2326@posting.google.com… > > Has anyone tried acupuncture and, if so, what were the results? Also, > > any other thoughts or advice would be most appreciated. > Many years ago I did, the acupuncturist told me it could solve my > nasal/sinus problems. I had it for many months, I don’t remember exactly how > long, probably over a year. (This was about 20 years ago, so i don’t > remember the details.) > It didn’t help me at all.
It didn’t help me either. Kathy
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On 12 Jul 2002 11:12:38 -0700, csons…@hotmail.com (cecelia) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I have suffered from sinus problems for years and have lost my sense >of smell and taste almost completely. I also have a chronically >stuffed left nostril that tickles and runs like mad (having the fans >on to cool the house doesn’t help this at all!!). I also sometimes >feel like I’m not getting enough air and although I work out on an >Orbitrek 25 minutes a day, I sometimes get out of breath after >performing the lightest activity (making the bed, etc.) Coul this be >related to my stuffed sinuses? >I’ve seen an ENT who told me that I have polyps in the left nostril >and a deviated septum. He also put me on Prednisone to see if it >would bring my >smell/taste back, which it did. Unrelated to my sinuses, I had to >have 2 cortisone shots for a problem with my shoulder, and for about a >week after each shot I regained my sense of taste and smell. Thank >God the shots coincided with the holidays so I could enjoy all that >food!!
Well the steroids will do that, but the problem is that there is too much risk of side effects to take systemic steroids on a regular basis. Nasal steroid sprays do not have that problem, though. Have you tried them? >The ENT suggested surgery to remove the polyps and correct the >deviated septum. I am skeptical about surgery for a number of reasons >and have wondered about acupuncture for treatment of my problem. My >thinking is that if the steroids worked to give me back my senses – my >main concern here – then maybe surgery ISN"T necessary. >Has anyone tried acupuncture and, if so, what were the results? Also, >any other thoughts or advice would be most appreciated.
Nobody here that I can recall has reported accupuncture being successful for sinusitis.
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I have suffered from sinus problems for years and have lost my sense of smell and taste almost completely. I also have a chronically stuffed left nostril that tickles and runs like mad (having the fans on to cool the house doesn’t help this at all!!). I also sometimes feel like I’m not getting enough air and although I work out on an Orbitrek 25 minutes a day, I sometimes get out of breath after performing the lightest activity (making the bed, etc.) Coul this be related to my stuffed sinuses? I’ve seen an ENT who told me that I have polyps in the left nostril and a deviated septum. He also put me on Prednisone to see if it would bring my smell/taste back, which it did. Unrelated to my sinuses, I had to have 2 cortisone shots for a problem with my shoulder, and for about a week after each shot I regained my sense of taste and smell. Thank God the shots coincided with the holidays so I could enjoy all that food!! The ENT suggested surgery to remove the polyps and correct the deviated septum. I am skeptical about surgery for a number of reasons and have wondered about acupuncture for treatment of my problem. My thinking is that if the steroids worked to give me back my senses – my main concern here – then maybe surgery ISN"T necessary. Has anyone tried acupuncture and, if so, what were the results? Also, any other thoughts or advice would be most appreciated.
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Has anybody had any success with acupuncture? I’ve been dealing with chronic sinus infections for a long time and now even a hard core dose of antibiotics doesn’t seem to do much for ver long. I’m tempted to try some alternative therapies. Thanks Tom Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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I tried a couple of treatments on the recommendation of my partner. She credits it with helping her deal with a back injury and for allowing her sister to stop smoking. Me, no results. I’m told it’s something you have to do regularly though… Good luck, Neil – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -thomasjoh…@my-deja.com wrote in message <85tng1$7u…@nnrp1.deja.com>… >Has anybody had any success with acupuncture? I’ve been dealing with chronic >sinus infections for a long time and now even a hard core dose of antibiotics >doesn’t seem to do much for ver long. I’m tempted to try some alternative >therapies. >Thanks >Tom >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy.
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Heather, The color of my mucsus varies from white to gold. When it gets uncomfortably gold and thick I go on a 5 day course of prendisone and sometimes Zomax. After this the color is almost clear and it gradually turns gold again in about 4 to 6 months. This has been going on for about 10 years. Alan
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On 3 Dec 1999 20:19:32 GMT, pbu…@condor.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch) wrote: [snip] > Echinacea is not recommended for those who suffer from allergies, > especially pollen allergies, as cross-reactivity between allergens > such as ragweed and those in echinacea is not uncommon.
[snip] — Jon Ruth ** e-mail: ru…@delphi.com www: people.delphi.com/ruthj ** Can you provide any refrences on this? Thanks!
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Paula is as reliable as Spring rains. Guaranteed she will give you the references! Jon Ruth <ru…@delphi.com> wrote in message
news:iino4scqe97tfog143shnnd9ej414helhr@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On 3 Dec 1999 20:19:32 GMT, pbu…@condor.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch) > wrote: > [snip] > > Echinacea is not recommended for those who suffer from allergies, > > especially pollen allergies, as cross-reactivity between allergens > > such as ragweed and those in echinacea is not uncommon. > [snip] > — > Jon Ruth > ** > e-mail: ru…@delphi.com > www: people.delphi.com/ruthj > ** > Can you provide any refrences on this? > Thanks!
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Only asked this because the colour/smell of the mucus is often a good indication of what is causing the infection. — Heather Collins UK Mikecheath…@oakwellmount.freeserve.co.uk Mike & Heather Collins <mikeheath…@oakwellmount.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:82303k$qvt$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Alan, > Has the discharge always been a gold colour? > — > Heather Collins > UK > Mikecheath…@oakwellmount.freeserve.co.uk > Alan <aboutspo…@email.msn.com> wrote in message > news:#1dWuCzO$GA.323@cpmsnbbsa02… > > Robin, > > Thanks for the reply. My ENT advises occasional steroids, (medrol) for > > server flare ups and surgery when the polyp condition becomes severe. I > have > > had 3 surgeries and they do provide relief for a while. He is against > > frequent use antibiotics because of the danger of the bacteria becoming > > resistant. He also maintains that there is no accepted study that shows > > anti fungal medications help. By the way, don’t underestimate any drug > that > > may effect your liver. > > In one of your earlier posts I see that you are going to be tested for > > allergy. I tried this and took shots for 5 or 6 years with no help. I > also > > tried nutritional supplements and an exclusion diet where you remove > certain > > foods i.e. wheat, rye, dairy. I lost weight, but there was no improvement > > in my condition. > > The bottom line is that I still suffer from stuffiness and ugly discharges > > of gold thick mucus. I have no sense of smell and the condition impairs my > > quality of life. Since I am not a believer in alternative medicine, I > guess > > I will have to wait for the main stream to find a cure. > > Alan
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Alan, Has the discharge always been a gold colour? — Heather Collins UK Mikecheath…@oakwellmount.freeserve.co.uk Alan <aboutspo…@email.msn.com> wrote in message
news:#1dWuCzO$GA.323@cpmsnbbsa02… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Robin, > Thanks for the reply. My ENT advises occasional steroids, (medrol) for > server flare ups and surgery when the polyp condition becomes severe. I have > had 3 surgeries and they do provide relief for a while. He is against > frequent use antibiotics because of the danger of the bacteria becoming > resistant. He also maintains that there is no accepted study that shows > anti fungal medications help. By the way, don’t underestimate any drug that > may effect your liver. > In one of your earlier posts I see that you are going to be tested for > allergy. I tried this and took shots for 5 or 6 years with no help. I also > tried nutritional supplements and an exclusion diet where you remove certain > foods i.e. wheat, rye, dairy. I lost weight, but there was no improvement > in my condition. > The bottom line is that I still suffer from stuffiness and ugly discharges > of gold thick mucus. I have no sense of smell and the condition impairs my > quality of life. Since I am not a believer in alternative medicine, I guess > I will have to wait for the main stream to find a cure. > Alan
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Was a specific fungus identfied?? What exactly was your diagnosis? Robin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ssohni wrote: > Alan, why discount all ‘alternative’ meds? I have never been much of a > supporter of what I thought of as quackery, myself, but I think it important > to maintain an open mind when traditional medicine doesn’t seem to be able > to do anything to help. Where are we going to put our trust? > My physician deals with both. He is an MD. He just happens to practice > both forms. More power to him to not be afraid to espouse another format. > While on the Difulcan, my liver function gets tested every thirty days. It > is a caution. You’re right. But it is the only thing so far that makes me > feel better…….not 100%. Just better. > robin <ro…@martnet.com> wrote in message > news:38447676.CB4CBA95@martnet.com… > > Hi Alan, Thanks for the follow-up post. I hope to determine why exactly > my > > sinuses are "reacting" this way. Did your ENT identify a specific fungus? > And > > what test(s) was performed to determine the diagnosis? What > recommendations > > were made? Any details you can provide regarding your diagnosis would be > > greatly appreciated. Regards, Robin Cochran > > Alan wrote: > > > Robin, > > > Thanks for the reply. My ENT advises occasional steroids, (medrol) for > > > server flare ups and surgery when the polyp condition becomes severe. I > have > > > had 3 surgeries and they do provide relief for a while. He is against > > > frequent use antibiotics because of the danger of the bacteria becoming > > > resistant. He also maintains that there is no accepted study that shows > > > anti fungal medications help. By the way, don’t underestimate any drug > that > > > may effect your liver. > > > In one of your earlier posts I see that you are going to be tested for > > > allergy. I tried this and took shots for 5 or 6 years with no help. I > also > > > tried nutritional supplements and an exclusion diet where you remove > certain > > > foods i.e. wheat, rye, dairy. I lost weight, but there was no > improvement > > > in my condition. > > > The bottom line is that I still suffer from stuffiness and ugly > discharges > > > of gold thick mucus. I have no sense of smell and the condition impairs > my > > > quality of life. Since I am not a believer in alternative medicine, I > guess > > > I will have to wait for the main stream to find a cure. > > > Alan
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When I heard about that study I went out and bought a HEPA filter (removes microscopic air particles). Noticed a dramatic improvement. Then I read Dr Grossan’s recommendation about papaya enzyme extract and found them also useful as well as tasty. I feel much better, and no side-effects! Cheers Alan <aboutspo…@email.msn.com> wrote in message
news:uhINQegO$GA.58@cpmsnbbsa05… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have been diagnosed with Allergic Fungal Sinusitis and was very excited > when I heard about the Mayo Clinic study. I called my ENT to discuss the > study and he advised me that the results were controversial and had not been > submitted for peer review. In short, he does not believe that the benefits > of antifungal medicine outweigh the risks in treating AFS. Since he is a > faculty member at a major teaching hospital I respect his opinion, but as a > lifelong sufferer I am interested in anything that could help. > All comments will be greatly appreciated.
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Hi Alan, Thanks for the follow-up post. I hope to determine why exactly my sinuses are "reacting" this way. Did your ENT identify a specific fungus? And what test(s) was performed to determine the diagnosis? What recommendations were made? Any details you can provide regarding your diagnosis would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Robin Cochran – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Alan wrote: > Robin, > Thanks for the reply. My ENT advises occasional steroids, (medrol) for > server flare ups and surgery when the polyp condition becomes severe. I have > had 3 surgeries and they do provide relief for a while. He is against > frequent use antibiotics because of the danger of the bacteria becoming > resistant. He also maintains that there is no accepted study that shows > anti fungal medications help. By the way, don’t underestimate any drug that > may effect your liver. > In one of your earlier posts I see that you are going to be tested for > allergy. I tried this and took shots for 5 or 6 years with no help. I also > tried nutritional supplements and an exclusion diet where you remove certain > foods i.e. wheat, rye, dairy. I lost weight, but there was no improvement > in my condition. > The bottom line is that I still suffer from stuffiness and ugly discharges > of gold thick mucus. I have no sense of smell and the condition impairs my > quality of life. Since I am not a believer in alternative medicine, I guess > I will have to wait for the main stream to find a cure. > Alan
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Alan, why discount all ‘alternative’ meds? I have never been much of a supporter of what I thought of as quackery, myself, but I think it important to maintain an open mind when traditional medicine doesn’t seem to be able to do anything to help. Where are we going to put our trust? My physician deals with both. He is an MD. He just happens to practice both forms. More power to him to not be afraid to espouse another format. While on the Difulcan, my liver function gets tested every thirty days. It is a caution. You’re right. But it is the only thing so far that makes me feel better…….not 100%. Just better. robin <ro…@martnet.com> wrote in message
news:38447676.CB4CBA95@martnet.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Alan, Thanks for the follow-up post. I hope to determine why exactly my > sinuses are "reacting" this way. Did your ENT identify a specific fungus? And > what test(s) was performed to determine the diagnosis? What recommendations > were made? Any details you can provide regarding your diagnosis would be > greatly appreciated. Regards, Robin Cochran > Alan wrote: > > Robin, > > Thanks for the reply. My ENT advises occasional steroids, (medrol) for > > server flare ups and surgery when the polyp condition becomes severe. I have > > had 3 surgeries and they do provide relief for a while. He is against > > frequent use antibiotics because of the danger of the bacteria becoming > > resistant. He also maintains that there is no accepted study that shows > > anti fungal medications help. By the way, don’t underestimate any drug that > > may effect your liver. > > In one of your earlier posts I see that you are going to be tested for > > allergy. I tried this and took shots for 5 or 6 years with no help. I also > > tried nutritional supplements and an exclusion diet where you remove certain > > foods i.e. wheat, rye, dairy. I lost weight, but there was no improvement > > in my condition. > > The bottom line is that I still suffer from stuffiness and ugly discharges > > of gold thick mucus. I have no sense of smell and the condition impairs my > > quality of life. Since I am not a believer in alternative medicine, I guess > > I will have to wait for the main stream to find a cure. > > Alan
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Alan, read my post above re: fungal. Then, get tested. There is a blood test that can determine yeast levels/imbalance. I am seeing a doctor now who suspected immediately that this was fungal. Whenever I have a flare up of the sinus’, I also get a yeast infection so it didn’t take a lot of guess work. We are amending diet (am currently on a modified Atkins….very little carbs) and adding lots of good stuff. Alan <aboutspo…@email.msn.com> wrote in message
news:uhINQegO$GA.58@cpmsnbbsa05… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have been diagnosed with Allergic Fungal Sinusitis and was very excited > when I heard about the Mayo Clinic study. I called my ENT to discuss the > study and he advised me that the results were controversial and had not been > submitted for peer review. In short, he does not believe that the benefits > of antifungal medicine outweigh the risks in treating AFS. Since he is a > faculty member at a major teaching hospital I respect his opinion, but as a > lifelong sufferer I am interested in anything that could help. > All comments will be greatly appreciated. > Alan
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try also echinacea purpurea tincture – this native plant of north america is an excellent way of supporting the immune system. I use 15 drops of the bioforce product whenever feeling one degree under.
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Robin, Thanks for the reply. My ENT advises occasional steroids, (medrol) for server flare ups and surgery when the polyp condition becomes severe. I have had 3 surgeries and they do provide relief for a while. He is against frequent use antibiotics because of the danger of the bacteria becoming resistant. He also maintains that there is no accepted study that shows anti fungal medications help. By the way, don’t underestimate any drug that may effect your liver. In one of your earlier posts I see that you are going to be tested for allergy. I tried this and took shots for 5 or 6 years with no help. I also tried nutritional supplements and an exclusion diet where you remove certain foods i.e. wheat, rye, dairy. I lost weight, but there was no improvement in my condition. The bottom line is that I still suffer from stuffiness and ugly discharges of gold thick mucus. I have no sense of smell and the condition impairs my quality of life. Since I am not a believer in alternative medicine, I guess I will have to wait for the main stream to find a cure. Alan
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I have been diagnosed with Allergic Fungal Sinusitis and was very excited when I heard about the Mayo Clinic study. I called my ENT to discuss the study and he advised me that the results were controversial and had not been submitted for peer review. In short, he does not believe that the benefits of antifungal medicine outweigh the risks in treating AFS. Since he is a faculty member at a major teaching hospital I respect his opinion, but as a lifelong sufferer I am interested in anything that could help. All comments will be greatly appreciated. Alan
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And your ENT was the one who diagnosed you, I assume. What treatment is he suggesting if he unwilling to prescribe any anti-fungal medications (all I am aware of is that they can interfere with the liver)? After months of antibiotics, I took it upon myself to go ahead and treat for fungus and/or mold that I suspect I am confronting (I am supposed to undergo testing for allergens after a week of recording my diet, pffh). For two weeks now I have been utilizing Colloidal Silver (research for yourself) along with the regimen given in Prescription for Nutritional Healing by James F. Balch, M.D. and Phyllis A. Balch, C.N.C. "A depressed immune function is a leading cause of fungus infections…" Acidophilus – supplies friendly bacteria Garlic Capsules – neutralizes most fungi Aerobic 07 – destroys unwanted bacteria and increases tissue oxygenation B Complex – needed for correct balance of bacteria in the body Vitamin C w/bioflavanoids – proper immune function Vitamin E Zinc Amino Acids Vitamin A My pharmacy has the book out in the open for reference, perhaps yours does too. I believe the Colloidal Silver is having a beneficial effect and my ENT had no objection to my taking it, but suggest that you research and decide on your own. But definitely take measures to boost your immune system if you are not already. Sincerely, Robin Cochran – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Alan wrote: > I have been diagnosed with Allergic Fungal Sinusitis and was very excited > when I heard about the Mayo Clinic study. I called my ENT to discuss the > study and he advised me that the results were controversial and had not been > submitted for peer review. In short, he does not believe that the benefits > of antifungal medicine outweigh the risks in treating AFS. Since he is a > faculty member at a major teaching hospital I respect his opinion, but as a > lifelong sufferer I am interested in anything that could help. > All comments will be greatly appreciated. > Alan
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Has anyone had any luck with this treatment? I had an injection ordered by a substitute allergist when mine was on vacation. The results, although temporary, were amazing. I felt like a million bucks for a few days. Then I crashed. I wonder if I should go to my regular allergist and request an injection once a week? I wonder what the long term side effects can be?
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A long term (and sometimes not so long term) side effect can be a disease called avascular necrosis. Cortisone can result in the degeneration of your hip joints. It’s painful and there is no cure other than hip replacement surgery. I have it as a result of "good" results using cortisone to treat my allergies.
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