Mayo Clinic Study
Question:
Heather, The color of my mucsus varies from white to gold. When it gets uncomfortably gold and thick I go on a 5 day course of prendisone and sometimes Zomax. After this the color is almost clear and it gradually turns gold again in about 4 to 6 months. This has been going on for about 10 years. Alan
Response:
On 3 Dec 1999 20:19:32 GMT, pbu…@condor.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch) wrote: [snip] > Echinacea is not recommended for those who suffer from allergies, > especially pollen allergies, as cross-reactivity between allergens > such as ragweed and those in echinacea is not uncommon.
[snip] — Jon Ruth ** e-mail: ru…@delphi.com www: people.delphi.com/ruthj ** Can you provide any refrences on this? Thanks!
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Paula is as reliable as Spring rains. Guaranteed she will give you the references! Jon Ruth <ru…@delphi.com> wrote in message
news:iino4scqe97tfog143shnnd9ej414helhr@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On 3 Dec 1999 20:19:32 GMT, pbu…@condor.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch) > wrote: > [snip] > > Echinacea is not recommended for those who suffer from allergies, > > especially pollen allergies, as cross-reactivity between allergens > > such as ragweed and those in echinacea is not uncommon. > [snip] > — > Jon Ruth > ** > e-mail: ru…@delphi.com > www: people.delphi.com/ruthj > ** > Can you provide any refrences on this? > Thanks!
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Only asked this because the colour/smell of the mucus is often a good indication of what is causing the infection. — Heather Collins UK Mikecheath…@oakwellmount.freeserve.co.uk Mike & Heather Collins <mikeheath…@oakwellmount.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:82303k$qvt$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Alan, > Has the discharge always been a gold colour? > — > Heather Collins > UK > Mikecheath…@oakwellmount.freeserve.co.uk > Alan <aboutspo…@email.msn.com> wrote in message > news:#1dWuCzO$GA.323@cpmsnbbsa02… > > Robin, > > Thanks for the reply. My ENT advises occasional steroids, (medrol) for > > server flare ups and surgery when the polyp condition becomes severe. I > have > > had 3 surgeries and they do provide relief for a while. He is against > > frequent use antibiotics because of the danger of the bacteria becoming > > resistant. He also maintains that there is no accepted study that shows > > anti fungal medications help. By the way, don’t underestimate any drug > that > > may effect your liver. > > In one of your earlier posts I see that you are going to be tested for > > allergy. I tried this and took shots for 5 or 6 years with no help. I > also > > tried nutritional supplements and an exclusion diet where you remove > certain > > foods i.e. wheat, rye, dairy. I lost weight, but there was no improvement > > in my condition. > > The bottom line is that I still suffer from stuffiness and ugly discharges > > of gold thick mucus. I have no sense of smell and the condition impairs my > > quality of life. Since I am not a believer in alternative medicine, I > guess > > I will have to wait for the main stream to find a cure. > > Alan
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Alan, Has the discharge always been a gold colour? — Heather Collins UK Mikecheath…@oakwellmount.freeserve.co.uk Alan <aboutspo…@email.msn.com> wrote in message
news:#1dWuCzO$GA.323@cpmsnbbsa02… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Robin, > Thanks for the reply. My ENT advises occasional steroids, (medrol) for > server flare ups and surgery when the polyp condition becomes severe. I have > had 3 surgeries and they do provide relief for a while. He is against > frequent use antibiotics because of the danger of the bacteria becoming > resistant. He also maintains that there is no accepted study that shows > anti fungal medications help. By the way, don’t underestimate any drug that > may effect your liver. > In one of your earlier posts I see that you are going to be tested for > allergy. I tried this and took shots for 5 or 6 years with no help. I also > tried nutritional supplements and an exclusion diet where you remove certain > foods i.e. wheat, rye, dairy. I lost weight, but there was no improvement > in my condition. > The bottom line is that I still suffer from stuffiness and ugly discharges > of gold thick mucus. I have no sense of smell and the condition impairs my > quality of life. Since I am not a believer in alternative medicine, I guess > I will have to wait for the main stream to find a cure. > Alan
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Was a specific fungus identfied?? What exactly was your diagnosis? Robin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ssohni wrote: > Alan, why discount all ‘alternative’ meds? I have never been much of a > supporter of what I thought of as quackery, myself, but I think it important > to maintain an open mind when traditional medicine doesn’t seem to be able > to do anything to help. Where are we going to put our trust? > My physician deals with both. He is an MD. He just happens to practice > both forms. More power to him to not be afraid to espouse another format. > While on the Difulcan, my liver function gets tested every thirty days. It > is a caution. You’re right. But it is the only thing so far that makes me > feel better…….not 100%. Just better. > robin <ro…@martnet.com> wrote in message > news:38447676.CB4CBA95@martnet.com… > > Hi Alan, Thanks for the follow-up post. I hope to determine why exactly > my > > sinuses are "reacting" this way. Did your ENT identify a specific fungus? > And > > what test(s) was performed to determine the diagnosis? What > recommendations > > were made? Any details you can provide regarding your diagnosis would be > > greatly appreciated. Regards, Robin Cochran > > Alan wrote: > > > Robin, > > > Thanks for the reply. My ENT advises occasional steroids, (medrol) for > > > server flare ups and surgery when the polyp condition becomes severe. I > have > > > had 3 surgeries and they do provide relief for a while. He is against > > > frequent use antibiotics because of the danger of the bacteria becoming > > > resistant. He also maintains that there is no accepted study that shows > > > anti fungal medications help. By the way, don’t underestimate any drug > that > > > may effect your liver. > > > In one of your earlier posts I see that you are going to be tested for > > > allergy. I tried this and took shots for 5 or 6 years with no help. I > also > > > tried nutritional supplements and an exclusion diet where you remove > certain > > > foods i.e. wheat, rye, dairy. I lost weight, but there was no > improvement > > > in my condition. > > > The bottom line is that I still suffer from stuffiness and ugly > discharges > > > of gold thick mucus. I have no sense of smell and the condition impairs > my > > > quality of life. Since I am not a believer in alternative medicine, I > guess > > > I will have to wait for the main stream to find a cure. > > > Alan
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When I heard about that study I went out and bought a HEPA filter (removes microscopic air particles). Noticed a dramatic improvement. Then I read Dr Grossan’s recommendation about papaya enzyme extract and found them also useful as well as tasty. I feel much better, and no side-effects! Cheers Alan <aboutspo…@email.msn.com> wrote in message
news:uhINQegO$GA.58@cpmsnbbsa05… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have been diagnosed with Allergic Fungal Sinusitis and was very excited > when I heard about the Mayo Clinic study. I called my ENT to discuss the > study and he advised me that the results were controversial and had not been > submitted for peer review. In short, he does not believe that the benefits > of antifungal medicine outweigh the risks in treating AFS. Since he is a > faculty member at a major teaching hospital I respect his opinion, but as a > lifelong sufferer I am interested in anything that could help. > All comments will be greatly appreciated.
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Hi Alan, Thanks for the follow-up post. I hope to determine why exactly my sinuses are "reacting" this way. Did your ENT identify a specific fungus? And what test(s) was performed to determine the diagnosis? What recommendations were made? Any details you can provide regarding your diagnosis would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Robin Cochran – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Alan wrote: > Robin, > Thanks for the reply. My ENT advises occasional steroids, (medrol) for > server flare ups and surgery when the polyp condition becomes severe. I have > had 3 surgeries and they do provide relief for a while. He is against > frequent use antibiotics because of the danger of the bacteria becoming > resistant. He also maintains that there is no accepted study that shows > anti fungal medications help. By the way, don’t underestimate any drug that > may effect your liver. > In one of your earlier posts I see that you are going to be tested for > allergy. I tried this and took shots for 5 or 6 years with no help. I also > tried nutritional supplements and an exclusion diet where you remove certain > foods i.e. wheat, rye, dairy. I lost weight, but there was no improvement > in my condition. > The bottom line is that I still suffer from stuffiness and ugly discharges > of gold thick mucus. I have no sense of smell and the condition impairs my > quality of life. Since I am not a believer in alternative medicine, I guess > I will have to wait for the main stream to find a cure. > Alan
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Alan, why discount all ‘alternative’ meds? I have never been much of a supporter of what I thought of as quackery, myself, but I think it important to maintain an open mind when traditional medicine doesn’t seem to be able to do anything to help. Where are we going to put our trust? My physician deals with both. He is an MD. He just happens to practice both forms. More power to him to not be afraid to espouse another format. While on the Difulcan, my liver function gets tested every thirty days. It is a caution. You’re right. But it is the only thing so far that makes me feel better…….not 100%. Just better. robin <ro…@martnet.com> wrote in message
news:38447676.CB4CBA95@martnet.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Alan, Thanks for the follow-up post. I hope to determine why exactly my > sinuses are "reacting" this way. Did your ENT identify a specific fungus? And > what test(s) was performed to determine the diagnosis? What recommendations > were made? Any details you can provide regarding your diagnosis would be > greatly appreciated. Regards, Robin Cochran > Alan wrote: > > Robin, > > Thanks for the reply. My ENT advises occasional steroids, (medrol) for > > server flare ups and surgery when the polyp condition becomes severe. I have > > had 3 surgeries and they do provide relief for a while. He is against > > frequent use antibiotics because of the danger of the bacteria becoming > > resistant. He also maintains that there is no accepted study that shows > > anti fungal medications help. By the way, don’t underestimate any drug that > > may effect your liver. > > In one of your earlier posts I see that you are going to be tested for > > allergy. I tried this and took shots for 5 or 6 years with no help. I also > > tried nutritional supplements and an exclusion diet where you remove certain > > foods i.e. wheat, rye, dairy. I lost weight, but there was no improvement > > in my condition. > > The bottom line is that I still suffer from stuffiness and ugly discharges > > of gold thick mucus. I have no sense of smell and the condition impairs my > > quality of life. Since I am not a believer in alternative medicine, I guess > > I will have to wait for the main stream to find a cure. > > Alan
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Alan, read my post above re: fungal. Then, get tested. There is a blood test that can determine yeast levels/imbalance. I am seeing a doctor now who suspected immediately that this was fungal. Whenever I have a flare up of the sinus’, I also get a yeast infection so it didn’t take a lot of guess work. We are amending diet (am currently on a modified Atkins….very little carbs) and adding lots of good stuff. Alan <aboutspo…@email.msn.com> wrote in message
news:uhINQegO$GA.58@cpmsnbbsa05… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have been diagnosed with Allergic Fungal Sinusitis and was very excited > when I heard about the Mayo Clinic study. I called my ENT to discuss the > study and he advised me that the results were controversial and had not been > submitted for peer review. In short, he does not believe that the benefits > of antifungal medicine outweigh the risks in treating AFS. Since he is a > faculty member at a major teaching hospital I respect his opinion, but as a > lifelong sufferer I am interested in anything that could help. > All comments will be greatly appreciated. > Alan
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try also echinacea purpurea tincture – this native plant of north america is an excellent way of supporting the immune system. I use 15 drops of the bioforce product whenever feeling one degree under.
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Robin, Thanks for the reply. My ENT advises occasional steroids, (medrol) for server flare ups and surgery when the polyp condition becomes severe. I have had 3 surgeries and they do provide relief for a while. He is against frequent use antibiotics because of the danger of the bacteria becoming resistant. He also maintains that there is no accepted study that shows anti fungal medications help. By the way, don’t underestimate any drug that may effect your liver. In one of your earlier posts I see that you are going to be tested for allergy. I tried this and took shots for 5 or 6 years with no help. I also tried nutritional supplements and an exclusion diet where you remove certain foods i.e. wheat, rye, dairy. I lost weight, but there was no improvement in my condition. The bottom line is that I still suffer from stuffiness and ugly discharges of gold thick mucus. I have no sense of smell and the condition impairs my quality of life. Since I am not a believer in alternative medicine, I guess I will have to wait for the main stream to find a cure. Alan
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I have been diagnosed with Allergic Fungal Sinusitis and was very excited when I heard about the Mayo Clinic study. I called my ENT to discuss the study and he advised me that the results were controversial and had not been submitted for peer review. In short, he does not believe that the benefits of antifungal medicine outweigh the risks in treating AFS. Since he is a faculty member at a major teaching hospital I respect his opinion, but as a lifelong sufferer I am interested in anything that could help. All comments will be greatly appreciated. Alan
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And your ENT was the one who diagnosed you, I assume. What treatment is he suggesting if he unwilling to prescribe any anti-fungal medications (all I am aware of is that they can interfere with the liver)? After months of antibiotics, I took it upon myself to go ahead and treat for fungus and/or mold that I suspect I am confronting (I am supposed to undergo testing for allergens after a week of recording my diet, pffh). For two weeks now I have been utilizing Colloidal Silver (research for yourself) along with the regimen given in Prescription for Nutritional Healing by James F. Balch, M.D. and Phyllis A. Balch, C.N.C. "A depressed immune function is a leading cause of fungus infections…" Acidophilus – supplies friendly bacteria Garlic Capsules – neutralizes most fungi Aerobic 07 – destroys unwanted bacteria and increases tissue oxygenation B Complex – needed for correct balance of bacteria in the body Vitamin C w/bioflavanoids – proper immune function Vitamin E Zinc Amino Acids Vitamin A My pharmacy has the book out in the open for reference, perhaps yours does too. I believe the Colloidal Silver is having a beneficial effect and my ENT had no objection to my taking it, but suggest that you research and decide on your own. But definitely take measures to boost your immune system if you are not already. Sincerely, Robin Cochran – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Alan wrote: > I have been diagnosed with Allergic Fungal Sinusitis and was very excited > when I heard about the Mayo Clinic study. I called my ENT to discuss the > study and he advised me that the results were controversial and had not been > submitted for peer review. In short, he does not believe that the benefits > of antifungal medicine outweigh the risks in treating AFS. Since he is a > faculty member at a major teaching hospital I respect his opinion, but as a > lifelong sufferer I am interested in anything that could help. > All comments will be greatly appreciated. > Alan
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