Sinusitis FAQ

Good book on sinus trouble?

Question:

i don’t know about a book, but i found www.sinuses.com pretty helpful – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -epotter wrote: > Can anyone reccommend or mention the good or bad points of books available?

Response:

Larry Preuss wrote: > In article <95v3OtbOyRFC0eP1xiky6Cxey…@4ax.com>, Don Brady > <dbr…@pobox.com> wrote: > > It is getting better with the Internet.  I suspect this newsgroup is the > > single > > best lay source of information on sinusitis management  for the patient > > anywhere.   But how many people even know that Usenet exists? > Katie Hafner, a NY Times editor of their Circuits page, estimates 10%. >     Larry

One reason for that, might be that the premium-content services (like AOL and Compuserve) don’t emphasize it. I used to have an account on Compuserve, which has its own chat forums for various subjects. While they do provide access to Usenet, it’s not well publicized, and the default newsreader they provide is just awful. The ISPs that give you the "pure" internet (little or no additional content of their own) do tend to emphasize Usenet more.  That’s why I switched from Compuserve to EarthLink recently. — Steven D. Litvintchouk                   Email:  sdlit…@earthlink.net     "I guess I could have paid a little closer attention when I was in English class, but it all worked out OK.  I’m gainfully employed."      – President George W. Bush

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In article <95v3OtbOyRFC0eP1xiky6Cxey…@4ax.com>, Don Brady <dbr…@pobox.com> wrote: > It is getting better with the Internet.  I suspect this newsgroup is the > single > best lay source of information on sinusitis management  for the patient > anywhere.   But how many people even know that Usenet exists?

Katie Hafner, a NY Times editor of their Circuits page, estimates 10%.     Larry

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On Tue, 08 May 2001 06:25:41 GMT, Steven Litvintchouk <sdlit…@earthlink.net> wrote: >I found "Sinus Survival" to be a good book for the layman, provided that >you understand where Dr. Ivker is coming from.  He is a D.O., and is >partial to holistic medicine.  Therefore, he tries to offer a variety of >"alternative" remedies

Yes, but people are not going to understand that.  Or, if they do, they will think that there is no science available – just wild theories which might have no validity whatsoever.   That is what I concluded from his book, and the absence of other books on the subject, years ago.   Once he throws "holistic" in there, I discount his whole book (or, if I buy into holistic, start doubting the whole basis of modern medicine). >, and tends to be suspicious of antibiotics. >Despite that, I found Dr. Ivker’s description of sinuses and sinusitis >helpful.  I also found several of Dr. Ivker’s suggestions helpful. >YMMV. >As for the "well-established and effective medical science for dealing >with sinusitis," I’m not convinced there really is such a thing.

I’m not saying it is 100% effective.  Nothing is, in any medical field.    Nor am I saying there is unanimity.   But I think the patient will be better off to pick one of the standard mainstream approaches to sinusitis, if he can find out what they are.   Until now, it has been almost impossible to do even find out what the standard approaches are.   I’m certainly not going to assume that some doctor I choose at random is the right one.   He may be on some fringe, or a charlaton, or incompetent, or superficial, or ,,,,, It is getting better with the Internet.  I suspect this newsgroup is the single best lay source of information on sinusitis management  for the patient anywhere.   But how many people even know that Usenet exists? >My ENT summed it up this way:  "Patients try every antibiotic and every >home remedy they can think of.  And after a few years, when they just >can’t take it any more, then they go for surgery." >Is that what you meant by a "well-established and effective medical >science"??

I hope you are not really that cynical.   That may be an apt description of the way the average patient behaves, but I think that is partly *because* the only information he can access (including Ivker’s book) is based on "alternative" approaches, but there are few, if any, books, describing mainstream approaches. What do you expect the patient to do?   About all that makes sense, in this vacuum, is try things at random, or simply give up.

Response:

Thanks for recommending my book, The Sinus Cure. This was written with  the readers here as "the audience".  Much that is in the book came from the questions I see here. The reviews have certainly been gratifying. The Sinus Cure  can be read  in many public libraries. Best, Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com http://www.TinnitusRelief.net

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Don Brady wrote: > On Sat, 05 May 2001 03:04:11 GMT, "SinusS" <nma…@stny.rr.com> wrote: > >Sinus Survival by Dr Ivker is very good. > Sorry to disagree, but I think it is a terrible book.  Full of far-fetched and > unproven theories of systemic fungus and so forth. > I read it years ago and it set back for years my ability to understand that > there actually is a well-established and effective medical science for dealing > with sinusitis.   It just is not described in this book.

I found "Sinus Survival" to be a good book for the layman, provided that you understand where Dr. Ivker is coming from.  He is a D.O., and is partial to holistic medicine.  Therefore, he tries to offer a variety of "alternative" remedies, and tends to be suspicious of antibiotics. Despite that, I found Dr. Ivker’s description of sinuses and sinusitis helpful.  I also found several of Dr. Ivker’s suggestions helpful. YMMV. As for the "well-established and effective medical science for dealing with sinusitis," I’m not convinced there really is such a thing. My ENT summed it up this way:  "Patients try every antibiotic and every home remedy they can think of.  And after a few years, when they just can’t take it any more, then they go for surgery." Is that what you meant by a "well-established and effective medical science"?? — Steven D. Litvintchouk                   Email:  sdlit…@earthlink.net     "I guess I could have paid a little closer attention when I was in English class, but it all worked out OK.  I’m gainfully employed."      – President George W. Bush

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On Sat, 05 May 2001 03:04:11 GMT, "SinusS" <nma…@stny.rr.com> wrote: >Sinus Survival by Dr Ivker is very good.

Sorry to disagree, but I think it is a terrible book.  Full of far-fetched and unproven theories of systemic fungus and so forth.   I read it years ago and it set back for years my ability to understand that there actually is a well-established and effective medical science for dealing with sinusitis.   It just is not described in this book. Murray Grossan’s The Sinus Cure is far better. But to really understand Sinus Disease and Treatment in depth, you’ll have to go to the scientific literature at this time.

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in article 2nnzOjSAEOb4iMjAHznYt5UsK…@4ax.com, Don Brady at dbr…@pobox.com wrote on 5/5/01 12:04 AM: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Sat, 05 May 2001 03:04:11 GMT, "SinusS" <nma…@stny.rr.com> wrote: >> Sinus Survival by Dr Ivker is very good. > Sorry to disagree, but I think it is a terrible book.  Full of far-fetched and > unproven theories of systemic fungus and so forth. > I read it years ago and it set back for years my ability to understand that > there actually is a well-established and effective medical science for dealing > with sinusitis.   It just is not described in this book. > Murray Grossan’s The Sinus Cure is far better. > But to really understand Sinus Disease and Treatment in depth, you’ll have to > go to the scientific literature at this time.

Dr. Grossan’s "The Sinus Cure" is very good, but Dr. Ivker’s book, Sinus Survival is also very good and has helped lots of people.

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Sinus Survival by Dr Ivker is very good. "epotter" <epot…@mail.utexas.edu> wrote in message

news:epotter-0405012101430001@dial-52-32.ots.utexas.edu… > Can anyone reccommend or mention the good or bad points of books

available?

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Can anyone reccommend or mention the good or bad points of books available?

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