deviated Septum
Question:
For years I use to get awful migraine headaches. Finally a Dr. listened to me when I said, "I wake up with a sinus headache and it turns into a migraine." "If you take care of the sinus drainage, I will not have a headache at all" His solution was Allagra D for many years. Also years ago an ENT Dr. told me I had a deviated septum, but I didn’t do anything about it. My last visit to the Gen P. Dr. I told him the Allegra D isn’t working as well as it did in the beginning. He said I was on it long enough and to see an ENT. The drainage doesn’t bother me while I am awake but when I sleep on my side, that side of my sinus fills with drainage. I then turn over and then that side fills up and empties the other side. Sometimes it stays on my right side when I turn on my left. That is the side of the deviated septum. HERE IS MY QUESTION—– I can breath out of my nose, I know there is a deviated septem, Why is there drainage at all????????? In my mind I don’t think because the passage is narrow or curved, it should cause drainage???? How can a deviated septum cause this drainage. It doesn’t make sense???
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"tish" <jpa…@msn.com> wrote in message
news:a13e99d3.0211181931.55170dab@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> For years I use to get awful migraine headaches. Finally a Dr. > listened to me when I said, "I wake up with a sinus headache and it > turns into a migraine." "If you take care of the sinus drainage, I > will not have a headache at all" His solution was Allagra D for many > years. Also years ago an ENT Dr. told me I had a deviated septum, but > I didn’t do anything about it. > My last visit to the Gen P. Dr. I told him the Allegra D isn’t working > as well as it did in the beginning. He said I was on it long enough > and to see an ENT. > The drainage doesn’t bother me while I am awake but when I sleep on my > side, that side of my sinus fills with drainage. I then turn over and > then that side fills up and empties the other side. Sometimes it > stays on my right side when I turn on my left. That is the side of the > deviated septum. > HERE IS MY QUESTION—– I can breath out of my nose, I know there is > a deviated septem, Why is there drainage at all????????? > In my mind I don’t think because the passage is narrow or curved, it > should cause drainage???? > How can a deviated septum cause this drainage. It doesn’t make > sense???
There are lots of drippy, gooey, soft tissue sinus structures (three sets of turbinates, maxorilly sinuses, ethmoid sinuses) that could be the REAL cause of your drainage and headaches rather that a deviated septum. Go to a good ENT and have them do an CT Scan on your sinuses with endoscopic review. This will show the problem areas. Search www.google.com for sinus ct scan and click the images Tab for pictures. Mike
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> There are lots of drippy, gooey, soft tissue sinus structures (three sets of > turbinates, maxorilly sinuses, ethmoid sinuses) that could be the REAL cause of > your drainage and headaches rather that a deviated septum. Go to a good ENT and > have them do an CT Scan on your sinuses with endoscopic review. This will show the > problem areas. > Search www.google.com for sinus ct scan and click the images Tab for pictures. > Mike
Yeah, and after you get done handing over a couple of thousand dollars to your doctor, would you send me a couple so I can buy a cup of coffee? I have had the most ungodly drainage since having a sinus infection in 1984. Yeah, it bugs the heck out of me but I have learned to live with it. I would avoid any drying agents (I am not sure if Allegra D is a drying agent or not) because they have been linked to disorders caused by shrinking of the brain (alzheimers being one). After all dehydration of the brain causes many problems, and as you know these types of medications can cause dehyradtion, especially if used on a regular basis. Oddly enough, I find that making sure my environment is fairly humid helps considerably as my nose tends to produce MORE in humid conditions. Likewise, I keep my home a little warmer than average (73 degrees), during the winter because I find that when the air is cool my nose is more productive. Often I have to wake up several times a night to blow my nose to get rid of the drainage that has built up during the night. Like you, during the day it just drains normally and isnt’ until night time that I have a lot of problems with it. (Although I have noticed that during particular peak periods of stress I always have a drippy nose!) I have just had to adapt my life by not wearing makeup and not getting jobs in food service! I would say, that unless you want to spend a fortune to have a doctor treat you (which may or may not work, anyway), that you just learn to deal with it. It’s been almost 20 years for me and I hardly even think about it anymore. the girl of many names
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"Her Name Was Lola" <l…@spamdump.com> wrote in message news:ard1pj0fhv@enews1.newsguy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > There are lots of drippy, gooey, soft tissue sinus structures (three sets > of > > turbinates, maxorilly sinuses, ethmoid sinuses) that could be the REAL > cause of > > your drainage and headaches rather that a deviated septum. Go to a good > ENT and > > have them do an CT Scan on your sinuses with endoscopic review. This will > show the > > problem areas. > > Search www.google.com for sinus ct scan and click the images Tab for > pictures. > > Mike > Yeah, and after you get done handing over a couple of thousand dollars to > your doctor, would you send me a couple so I can buy a cup of coffee? > I have had the most ungodly drainage since having a sinus infection in 1984. > Yeah, it bugs the heck out of me but I have learned to live with it. > the girl of many names
You would live with a problem/disease rather than find out the cause? Bet that doesn’t work with a lot of diseases or problems either 
) Mike
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Lori&Mike" <> wrote in message … > "Her Name Was Lola" <.com> wrote in message.com… > > > There are lots of drippy, gooey, soft tissue sinus structures (three sets > > of > > > turbinates, maxorilly sinuses, ethmoid sinuses) that could be the REAL > > cause of > > > your drainage and headaches rather that a deviated septum. Go to a good > > ENT and > > > have them do an CT Scan on your sinuses with endoscopic review. This will > > show the > > > problem areas. > > > Search www.google.com for sinus ct scan and click the images Tab for > > pictures. > > > Mike > > Yeah, and after you get done handing over a couple of thousand dollars to > > your doctor, would you send me a couple so I can buy a cup of coffee? > > I have had the most ungodly drainage since having a sinus infection in 1984. > > Yeah, it bugs the heck out of me but I have learned to live with it. > > the girl of many names > You would live with a problem/disease rather than find out the cause? Bet that > doesn’t work with a lot of diseases or problems either )
glad you said that Mike ! ! …… sounds like chronic sinus infection and it’s NOT getting any better being left untreated after 8 yrs of sinus infections one after the other, my Dr put me on the "special high intensity treatment" program……. and it finally cleared up for me!……….it’s been 3 yrs of feeling normal for a change…. what a NICE change! k
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Boy oh boy…….what is this "High Intensity Treatment"? My husband has had two sinus operations and he gets bad sinus infections every time he gets a cold……..My colds last about a week, his last about 6 weeks and then he is OK (not great) just OK for awhile and then he gets another sinus infection……Poor guy.. — – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> after 8 yrs of sinus infections one after the other, my Dr put me on the > "special high intensity treatment" program……. and it finally cleared up > for me!……….it’s been 3 yrs of feeling normal for a change…. what a > NICE change! > k
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massive amounts of anti-biotics, cortico-steroid pills, beclonaise nasal spray (another cortico-steroid), salt water wash outs…….. and those suck!…. read the post about snuffling….. you inhale salt water…. until it starts to drain out again this went on for 3 months in total…. then it finally cleared!… i was SO happy to finally be rid of sinusitis! it’s been 3 yrs free of ANY sinus infections at all….. had 2 major sniffles incidents, but NO sinus infection…….. i attribute that to the CPAP heated humidifier good luck for your hubby "Janet" <jan…@wctel.net> wrote in message
news:arhdhu$es6r$1@news3.infoave.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Boy oh boy…….what is this "High Intensity Treatment"? My husband has > had two sinus operations and he gets bad sinus infections every time he gets > a cold……..My colds last about a week, his last about 6 weeks and then he > is OK (not great) just OK for awhile and then he gets another sinus > infection……Poor guy.. > — > > after 8 yrs of sinus infections one after the other, my Dr put me on the > > "special high intensity treatment" program……. and it finally cleared > up > > for me!……….it’s been 3 yrs of feeling normal for a change…. what a > > NICE change! > > k
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> glad you said that Mike ! ! …… sounds like chronic sinus infection and > it’s NOT getting any better being left untreated > after 8 yrs of sinus infections one after the other, my Dr put me on the > "special high intensity treatment" program……. and it finally cleared up > for me!……….it’s been 3 yrs of feeling normal for a change…. what a > NICE change! > k
Aside from the drip I don’t have any sinus infection type symptoms. No elevated white blood count; no low grade fever; no recurring sinus headaches; no recurring upper respiratory infections. Although I do admit that from time to time I will experience "mystery stinks", (where the smells are originating internally rather than externally), but today a doctor looked up my nose with his… uh…. nose-o-scope and didn’t find anything out of the ordinary… go figure. the girl of many names
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> > Yeah, and after you get done handing over a couple of thousand dollars to > > your doctor, would you send me a couple so I can buy a cup of coffee? > > I have had the most ungodly drainage since having a sinus infection in 1984. > > Yeah, it bugs the heck out of me but I have learned to live with it. > > the girl of many names > You would live with a problem/disease rather than find out the cause? Bet that > doesn’t work with a lot of diseases or problems either ) Mike
I’ve been to doctors and all they do is presribe antihistamines and steroid based nose sprays for me which mask the symptoms but do nothing to clear up the problem. I looked into a procedure that irrigates the sinus with water and then that water is super-heated. Supposedly this will reduce sinus problems by a huge degree, however, as I recall it was very expensive, had a lot of potential side effects and was not touted to be as effective as I would like (something like 60 percent showed "improvement" in their sinus condition). If there was a good, solid treatment out there that would do the trick I would look into it. But since 1984, I have found none. If you know of something please let me know. the girl of many names
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Get the deviated septum fixed, i had the same problems and now i dont anymore. Its a miracle what a non-deviated septum can do for you….
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"tish" <jpa…@msn.com> wrote in message
news:a13e99d3.0211221429.313e56b4@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Hey, what happened to tish (original poster )? > Thanks so much for getting back to me!!It got sooo off the subject > that I just gave up. > Anyway!!! I do not get very many sinus infections, so I can’t say > that is my problem either. > I would like the proper recipe for the sinus wash. I bought myself a > baby suction bulb and have done this but don’t really have the exact > amount of salt or what ever you use. > I have to say that I did buy those breathright bandaid things for my > nose and it did seem to help the first night I used it. I didn’t use > anything else. The second night, I woke up with a really bad headache. > Needless to say, I went back to my spray that Doc said he will not > renew the Rx because he wants me to have the operation. Which by the > way I put off until Jan until I decide what to do. > Thanks for anymore advice.
Here is a pretty good "recipe". http://www.fpnotebook.com/ENT142.htm Some variations use non-iodine salts. I’m almost ashamed to say I use tap water (sometimes warm, sometimes cool) with a pinch of ordinary table salt with no problems (I’m lazy ) You HAVE to lean forward over a sink or the water will go down your throat instead of out the other nostril. Also, can burn sometimes but my nasal passages ALWAYS feel more open and better after irrigation. Irrigation probably WON’T help your deviated septum. Unfortunately, sometimes it takes surgery. Sorry about any off subject topics ) Best wishes, mike.
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Thanks…….I am printing this out for him……….hope I can convince him to do the snuffling…….he has had a lot of antibiotics and the steroid pills…….but the rest he has not had…..thanks again — "Tiger Lily" <kl…@nospamteluspla.net> wrote in message
news:2iZC9.24475$0A5.1323133@news0.telusplanet.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> massive amounts of anti-biotics, cortico-steroid pills, beclonaise nasal > spray (another cortico-steroid), salt water wash outs…….. and those > suck!…. read the post about snuffling….. you inhale salt water…. until > it starts to drain out again > this went on for 3 months in total…. then it finally cleared!… i was SO > happy to finally be rid of sinusitis! > it’s been 3 yrs free of ANY sinus infections at all….. had 2 major > sniffles incidents, but NO sinus infection…….. i attribute that to the > CPAP heated humidifier > good luck for your hubby > "Janet" <jan…@wctel.net> wrote in message > news:arhdhu$es6r$1@news3.infoave.net… > > Boy oh boy…….what is this "High Intensity Treatment"? My husband > has > > had two sinus operations and he gets bad sinus infections every time he > gets > > a cold……..My colds last about a week, his last about 6 weeks and then > he > > is OK (not great) just OK for awhile and then he gets another sinus > > infection……Poor guy.. > > — > > > after 8 yrs of sinus infections one after the other, my Dr put me on the > > > "special high intensity treatment" program……. and it finally cleared > > up > > > for me!……….it’s been 3 yrs of feeling normal for a change…. what > a > > > NICE change! > > > k
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"Janet" <jan…@wctel.net> wrote in message
news:ariht0$fmpq$1@news3.infoave.net… > Thanks…….I am printing this out for him……….hope I can convince him > to do the snuffling…….he has had a lot of antibiotics and the steroid > pills…….but the rest he has not had…..thanks again
dang….. i hope he is able to get it resolved totally ! ! ! life sucks with a constant sinusitis problem……… and the difference is night and day….. my only regret…….. putting up with it for 8 yrs in the first place…. i should have demanded further treatment that would make it go away ! ! ! ! ! ! good luck, and let us know if he finds relief! k
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> Hey, what happened to tish (original poster )?
Thanks so much for getting back to me!!It got sooo off the subject that I just gave up. Anyway!!! I do not get very many sinus infections, so I can’t say that is my problem either. I would like the proper recipe for the sinus wash. I bought myself a baby suction bulb and have done this but don’t really have the exact amount of salt or what ever you use. I have to say that I did buy those breathright bandaid things for my nose and it did seem to help the first night I used it. I didn’t use anything else. The second night, I woke up with a really bad headache. Needless to say, I went back to my spray that Doc said he will not renew the Rx because he wants me to have the operation. Which by the way I put off until Jan until I decide what to do. Thanks for anymore advice.
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"Janet" <jan…@wctel.net> wrote in message
news:arhdhu$es6r$1@news3.infoave.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Boy oh boy…….what is this "High Intensity Treatment"? My husband has > had two sinus operations and he gets bad sinus infections every time he gets > a cold……..My colds last about a week, his last about 6 weeks and then he > is OK (not great) just OK for awhile and then he gets another sinus > infection……Poor guy.. > — > > after 8 yrs of sinus infections one after the other, my Dr put me on the > > "special high intensity treatment" program……. and it finally cleared > up > > for me!……….it’s been 3 yrs of feeling normal for a change…. what a > > NICE change! > > k
The last bad sinus infection I got was so bad that everyone thought I was going to die – seriously!. For about two weeks I had these huge black circles under my eyes reaching half way down my cheeks and sinus pain that would make sitting upright impossible. Finally, I managed to get to a health food store and mixed liquid echanicia (not sure about the spelling – purple cone flower) and liquid goldenseal with about 1/2 cup of hot water and squirted it up my nose with a bulb syringe. Within about three days the infection broke and within a week after that I was pretty much back to normal. I am not saying it would work for everybody but I swear by it. the girl of many names
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"Her Name Was Lola" <l…@spamdump.com> wrote in message news:arhqe301m2m@enews3.newsguy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > Yeah, and after you get done handing over a couple of thousand dollars to > > > your doctor, would you send me a couple so I can buy a cup of coffee? > > > I have had the most ungodly drainage since having a sinus infection in 1984. > > > Yeah, it bugs the heck out of me but I have learned to live with it. > > > the girl of many names > > You would live with a problem/disease rather than find out the cause? Bet that > > doesn’t work with a lot of diseases or problems either ) Mike > I’ve been to doctors and all they do is presribe antihistamines and steroid > based nose sprays for me which mask the symptoms but do nothing to clear up > the problem. > I looked into a procedure that irrigates the sinus with water and then that > water is super-heated. Supposedly this will reduce sinus problems by a huge > degree, however, as I recall it was very expensive, had a lot of potential > side effects and was not touted to be as effective as I would like > (something like 60 percent showed "improvement" in their sinus condition). > If there was a good, solid treatment out there that would do the trick I > would look into it. But since 1984, I have found none. If you know of > something please let me know. > the girl of many names
Hey, what happened to tish (original poster )? Hope my response wasn’t to snotty (pun intended:o) Anyway, did you see the posts about nasal irrigation? I delete the threads every few days and am to lazy to google it. Helps a lot if you have allergies. Overall point was at some point nasal passages and structures can get so swollen and/or infected that only a doctor and sometimes Functional Endoscopic Sinus Surgery (FESS) will help. Trust me, you couldn’t possibly dislike doctors as much as I do. Don’t get me started or I will boor you with surgery after surgery after misdiagnosis after … blah blah ) Mike
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