sinus problem
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Culture would identify wha the name of the organism is and what he is sensitive to. If he takes the culture via enodcope tht is best. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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You were asking about my opinion of irrigating with Hydrogen peroxide. In theory its a good idea, but I don’t known whet the effects on the nasal membranes are and until i do, I can’t comfortably recommend it. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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I’ve used the H2O2 maybe 1/2 dz. times. …I’ve found that it does cause some minor (short-term) irritation. Perhaps this is why many are hesitant to try it. ….Has it helped me? Well I’d be the last person to say something worked — just because everyone else said it did. …But, yes…Unquestionably, It has helped me. …And it’s surprisingly fast acting too. Has its use eliminated my sinusitis? No.. Probably surgery would be the only help in that respect. …But it has become another means — along with irrigation, and flonase — by which I can keep my sinusitis under control. …Jon
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Are you using the peroxide with water or with saline? That makes a difference. I think its better to use with saline. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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..I mix the H2O2 with the saline solution in my irrigator. …Rather than using Cando’s "upside down" method of holding it in, I simply turn the irrigator on a lighter flow, turn my head as much as possible in the sink (with the nostrils pointing up), then allow the mixture to continually flush through (takes approx. 11/2 minutes.) …I guess it basically accomplishes the same thing as Cando’s method, but with less hassle. …I would think to use the H2O2 on an ongoing basis would be superfluous. …Not only that, but the post discomfort it causes by irritating the sensitive tissue would be hard to justify as a replacement to the symptoms of sinusitis. …Of course, when I’ve irrigated with this solution, I make the mixture quite potent– right off the bat. ..Not the most pleasant experience to undergo; however, I also use very cold water, which counteracts the burning, to a degree. ..I figure if one is going to irritate the sinuses, might as well make the solution strong enough to kill a few bacteria off in the process. ..I would suggest, based on my use, the long-term effects are probably minimal in comparison to some of the horror stories I’ve read for post surgical. …In fact, right now, my sinuses feel clear as a bell. ..Jon
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Johnny1…@webtv.net wrote… > ..I figure if one is going to irritate the sinuses, might as well make > the solution strong enough to kill a few bacteria off in the process.
My concern with using this method (using H2O2) is damage to the cilia. Any info on the effects on the cilia? I think that if the cilia are damaged you could create chronic sinus problems. Regards, David
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Good point, David. …However, I kind of doubt the cilia are irreparably damaged. 1) The mixture, although irritating, is actually quite weak. ..Plus, 2) The exposure time is limited. …Jon
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Just an update: since my last post, it seems that not even the gentimycyn is not working. I’ve had this awful smell and taste for the last 2 weeks solid … no end in sight of it. so, i made an appointment to see a new ENT dr. I go on July 9th. In the meantime, I called my current ENT’s office. his nurse called in zithromax again (the first time was with an allergist) for me, except this time, I have to take 2 packs. I asked her what shethought it could be again, and she seems to think some sort of infection that is not going away. She said its possible the next time I see him (july 20) he might have to do a culture. I just wonder why they never cultured before. What do they take a culture of? maybe one day someone will get to the bottom of it?
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ou say the gentamycin didn’t work? how are you using it? Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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murray, i use a baby bulb and spray it up into my nose then snort it in. i do it once or twice a day.
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That is probably why the gentamycin didn’t clear you, I suspect almost none got into the sinuses. You should ask your doctor about doing this via pulsatile irrigation. check out http://www.geocities.com/shouser144/irrigate.html Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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murray, in your opinion, this thing that i am dealing with, is it some sort of nasty sinus infection that just wont budge? the nurse practioner for my current ent has me on a double pack of zithromax, and i just started the 2nd one today. i;ve notice it feels like there is pressure in my sinuses. i’ve also noticed my bones under my eyes hurt if i press on them. could it be some fungus infection? but if it were a fungus infection, wouldnt that have show up on my last ct scan from a month ago? i go see another ent two weeks from thursday for a 2nd opinon. i am supposed to go see my current one on 7/21 and the nurse said he may have to do a culture on me. what would a culture do? sorry for so many questions!
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He already posted that he doesn’t think it is a good idea. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Marcus Hansen wrote: > This is good but I think anyone who wants to try this would be doing > themselves a very big favor to do it with a Hydro Pulse. > Curious as to what Dr. Grossan thinks about the 3% hydrogen peroxide though. > "CanDo" <rasm1…@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > news:yO_vc.1518$Oc4.322@bignews1.bellsouth.net… >>After suffering with multiple sinus infections, year after year, for >>decades, I experimented with flooding my nasal passages with a mixture of >>diluted 3% hydrogen peroxide, baking soda and kosher salt. In order to > flood >>my nasal passages and keep them flooded, I keep my forehead pointed >>downward. I keep my forehead down for quite a while, hoping that the >>anti-infective mixture can get to the infected area(s) within my sinuses > and >>nasal passages. >>. >>It works! I have been sinus infection free for about 30 months. I think > that >>I had chronic infection problems with my turbinates, so flooding my nasal >>passages with the anti-infective mixture worked very well, for me, since > the >>infected areas were fairly easy to reach. >>. >>I have fully documented my experience and how I did it at > Healthboards.com. >>There are posts there by people who have tried my "upside down sinus >>flooding" and have received either partial relief or total relief. There > are >>also posts there from those who it hasn’t helped, and by those who don’t >>think that it is a good idea. I have no connection at all with > Healthboards. >>I use it because I consider it to be the best facility for discussing > health >>problems on the Internet. >>. >>To find out more, select one of the following links: >>. >>Here is the link to a discussion about the "Upside Down Sinus Flooding": >>. >>http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=129210 >>. >>Here is the link to the detailed documentation of the "Upside Down Sinus >>Flooding" and also some discussion: >>. >>http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=139765 >>. >>. >>"If you save one life, it is a though you save the world" >>"tiggerbengal" <tiggerben…@cox.net> wrote in message >>news:ebcbe5f58207f2d37010853665e93a6a@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com… >>>Since ‘97, I’ve had an odor that I can smell and taste. I can’t > describe >>>it other than it’s nasty. Last year, I went to my primary doctor and > they >>>did a ct scan. It showed fluids in my sinuses, so they prescribed > biaxin, >>>which did not work. In august I saw an ent, and he gave me augmentin, >>>guafacien, and presdindone to see if he could erradicate it. That did > not >>>work, so my last resort, or so I thought, was surgery. In November > 2003, >>>I had sinus surgery, which my ent opened up my nasal passage and took > out >>>a big cyst. It’s been almost 6 months now, and I am still having the > same >>>bad smell and taste. It’s coming from my sinuses.. that I do know. > Last >>>month, I saw an allergist who tested me for allergies and I have none, > so >>>that ruled out allergies. He had me get a ct scan and they put me on >>>zithromax for a week for a supposedly mild sinus infection. So, I went >>>back to my ent and the nurse read my ct scan films and said it showed >>>none, but to continue it. At thetime, the bad stink went away but came >>>back. Today, she gave me gentamicin to irrigage with. She told me it >>>should help but to see the ent, which I go see anyways in July. What is >>>causing this and how do I get it to permanently go away for good? There >>>are some days it will go away for a few days, but then it comes back and >>>wont go away no matter how much water i drink or brush and listerine. >>>What kind of sinus issue am i dealing with? Im at the end of my rope. > —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– > http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > —–== Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–
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This is good but I think anyone who wants to try this would be doing themselves a very big favor to do it with a Hydro Pulse. Curious as to what Dr. Grossan thinks about the 3% hydrogen peroxide though. "CanDo" <rasm1…@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:yO_vc.1518$Oc4.322@bignews1.bellsouth.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> After suffering with multiple sinus infections, year after year, for > decades, I experimented with flooding my nasal passages with a mixture of > diluted 3% hydrogen peroxide, baking soda and kosher salt. In order to flood > my nasal passages and keep them flooded, I keep my forehead pointed > downward. I keep my forehead down for quite a while, hoping that the > anti-infective mixture can get to the infected area(s) within my sinuses and > nasal passages. > . > It works! I have been sinus infection free for about 30 months. I think that > I had chronic infection problems with my turbinates, so flooding my nasal > passages with the anti-infective mixture worked very well, for me, since the > infected areas were fairly easy to reach. > . > I have fully documented my experience and how I did it at Healthboards.com. > There are posts there by people who have tried my "upside down sinus > flooding" and have received either partial relief or total relief. There are > also posts there from those who it hasn’t helped, and by those who don’t > think that it is a good idea. I have no connection at all with Healthboards. > I use it because I consider it to be the best facility for discussing health > problems on the Internet. > . > To find out more, select one of the following links: > . > Here is the link to a discussion about the "Upside Down Sinus Flooding": > . > http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=129210 > . > Here is the link to the detailed documentation of the "Upside Down Sinus > Flooding" and also some discussion: > . > http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=139765 > . > . > "If you save one life, it is a though you save the world" > "tiggerbengal" <tiggerben…@cox.net> wrote in message > news:ebcbe5f58207f2d37010853665e93a6a@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com… > > Since ‘97, I’ve had an odor that I can smell and taste. I can’t describe > > it other than it’s nasty. Last year, I went to my primary doctor and they > > did a ct scan. It showed fluids in my sinuses, so they prescribed biaxin, > > which did not work. In august I saw an ent, and he gave me augmentin, > > guafacien, and presdindone to see if he could erradicate it. That did not > > work, so my last resort, or so I thought, was surgery. In November 2003, > > I had sinus surgery, which my ent opened up my nasal passage and took out > > a big cyst. It’s been almost 6 months now, and I am still having the same > > bad smell and taste. It’s coming from my sinuses.. that I do know. Last > > month, I saw an allergist who tested me for allergies and I have none, so > > that ruled out allergies. He had me get a ct scan and they put me on > > zithromax for a week for a supposedly mild sinus infection. So, I went > > back to my ent and the nurse read my ct scan films and said it showed > > none, but to continue it. At thetime, the bad stink went away but came > > back. Today, she gave me gentamicin to irrigage with. She told me it > > should help but to see the ent, which I go see anyways in July. What is > > causing this and how do I get it to permanently go away for good? There > > are some days it will go away for a few days, but then it comes back and > > wont go away no matter how much water i drink or brush and listerine. > > What kind of sinus issue am i dealing with? Im at the end of my rope.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 22:55:11 -0400, knob <h…@dontemailme.com> wrote: >tiggerbengal wrote: >> Since ‘97, I’ve had an odor that I can smell and taste. I can’t describe >> it other than it’s nasty. Last year, I went to my primary doctor and they >> did a ct scan. It showed fluids in my sinuses, so they prescribed biaxin, >> which did not work. In august I saw an ent, and he gave me augmentin, >> guafacien, and presdindone to see if he could erradicate it. That did not >> work, so my last resort, or so I thought, was surgery. In November 2003, >> I had sinus surgery, which my ent opened up my nasal passage and took out >> a big cyst. It’s been almost 6 months now, and I am still having the same >> bad smell and taste. It’s coming from my sinuses.. that I do know. Last >> month, I saw an allergist who tested me for allergies and I have none, so >> that ruled out allergies. He had me get a ct scan and they put me on >> zithromax for a week for a supposedly mild sinus infection. So, I went >> back to my ent and the nurse read my ct scan films and said it showed >> none, but to continue it. At thetime, the bad stink went away but came >> back. Today, she gave me gentamicin to irrigage with. She told me it >> should help but to see the ent, which I go see anyways in July. What is >> causing this and how do I get it to permanently go away for good? There >> are some days it will go away for a few days, but then it comes back and >> wont go away no matter how much water i drink or brush and listerine. >> What kind of sinus issue am i dealing with? Im at the end of my rope. >Keep us posted on what the gentamicin does for you.
I agree keep with the irrigation until all symptoms are gone and continue after that for about a week. It sounds like that might do the trick. Many pathogens give off a foul odor. good luck
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -tiggerbengal wrote: > Since ‘97, I’ve had an odor that I can smell and taste. I can’t describe > it other than it’s nasty. Last year, I went to my primary doctor and they > did a ct scan. It showed fluids in my sinuses, so they prescribed biaxin, > which did not work. In august I saw an ent, and he gave me augmentin, > guafacien, and presdindone to see if he could erradicate it. That did not > work, so my last resort, or so I thought, was surgery. In November 2003, > I had sinus surgery, which my ent opened up my nasal passage and took out > a big cyst. It’s been almost 6 months now, and I am still having the same > bad smell and taste. It’s coming from my sinuses.. that I do know. Last > month, I saw an allergist who tested me for allergies and I have none, so > that ruled out allergies. He had me get a ct scan and they put me on > zithromax for a week for a supposedly mild sinus infection. So, I went > back to my ent and the nurse read my ct scan films and said it showed > none, but to continue it. At thetime, the bad stink went away but came > back. Today, she gave me gentamicin to irrigage with. She told me it > should help but to see the ent, which I go see anyways in July. What is > causing this and how do I get it to permanently go away for good? There > are some days it will go away for a few days, but then it comes back and > wont go away no matter how much water i drink or brush and listerine. > What kind of sinus issue am i dealing with? Im at the end of my rope.
Keep us posted on what the gentamicin does for you.
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It almost sounds like an undertreated sinus infection. My ENT has told me that some sinus infections require six weeks on an antibiotic. Could be you see some relief from the antibiotics when you’re on them, but because they don’t completely eradicate the infection, it all comes back again. Maybe you should try switching doctors or at least see someone for a second opinion. "tiggerbengal" <tiggerben…@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ebcbe5f58207f2d37010853665e93a6a@localhost.talkaboutsupport. com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Since ‘97, I’ve had an odor that I can smell and taste. I can’t describe > it other than it’s nasty. Last year, I went to my primary doctor and they > did a ct scan. It showed fluids in my sinuses, so they prescribed biaxin, > which did not work. In august I saw an ent, and he gave me augmentin, > guafacien, and presdindone to see if he could erradicate it. That did not > work, so my last resort, or so I thought, was surgery. In November 2003, > I had sinus surgery, which my ent opened up my nasal passage and took out > a big cyst. It’s been almost 6 months now, and I am still having the same > bad smell and taste. It’s coming from my sinuses.. that I do know. Last > month, I saw an allergist who tested me for allergies and I have none, so > that ruled out allergies. He had me get a ct scan and they put me on > zithromax for a week for a supposedly mild sinus infection. So, I went > back to my ent and the nurse read my ct scan films and said it showed > none, but to continue it. At thetime, the bad stink went away but came > back. Today, she gave me gentamicin to irrigage with. She told me it > should help but to see the ent, which I go see anyways in July. What is > causing this and how do I get it to permanently go away for good? There > are some days it will go away for a few days, but then it comes back and > wont go away no matter how much water i drink or brush and listerine. > What kind of sinus issue am i dealing with? Im at the end of my rope.
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"tiggerbengal" <tiggerben…@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ebcbe5f58207f2d37010853665e93a6a@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Since ‘97, I’ve had an odor that I can smell and taste. I can’t describe > it other than it’s nasty. Last year, I went to my primary doctor and they > did a ct scan. It showed fluids in my sinuses, so they prescribed biaxin, > which did not work. In august I saw an ent, and he gave me augmentin, > guafacien, and presdindone to see if he could erradicate it. That did not > work, so my last resort, or so I thought, was surgery. In November 2003, > I had sinus surgery, which my ent opened up my nasal passage and took out > a big cyst. It’s been almost 6 months now, and I am still having the same > bad smell and taste. It’s coming from my sinuses.. that I do know. Last > month, I saw an allergist who tested me for allergies and I have none, so > that ruled out allergies. He had me get a ct scan and they put me on > zithromax for a week for a supposedly mild sinus infection. So, I went > back to my ent and the nurse read my ct scan films and said it showed > none, but to continue it. At thetime, the bad stink went away but came > back. Today, she gave me gentamicin to irrigage with. She told me it > should help but to see the ent, which I go see anyways in July. What is > causing this and how do I get it to permanently go away for good? There > are some days it will go away for a few days, but then it comes back and > wont go away no matter how much water i drink or brush and listerine. > What kind of sinus issue am i dealing with? Im at the end of my rope.
Did anyone check you for fungal (mycotic) infection? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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when ;your cilia are not functioning well, ou can get a build up of bacteria due to the stasis. In many casies it is a matter of getting the cilia moving properly. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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After suffering with multiple sinus infections, year after year, for decades, I experimented with flooding my nasal passages with a mixture of diluted 3% hydrogen peroxide, baking soda and kosher salt. In order to flood my nasal passages and keep them flooded, I keep my forehead pointed downward. I keep my forehead down for quite a while, hoping that the anti-infective mixture can get to the infected area(s) within my sinuses and nasal passages. . It works! I have been sinus infection free for about 30 months. I think that I had chronic infection problems with my turbinates, so flooding my nasal passages with the anti-infective mixture worked very well, for me, since the infected areas were fairly easy to reach. . I have fully documented my experience and how I did it at Healthboards.com. There are posts there by people who have tried my "upside down sinus flooding" and have received either partial relief or total relief. There are also posts there from those who it hasn’t helped, and by those who don’t think that it is a good idea. I have no connection at all with Healthboards. I use it because I consider it to be the best facility for discussing health problems on the Internet. . To find out more, select one of the following links: . Here is the link to a discussion about the "Upside Down Sinus Flooding": . http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=129210 . Here is the link to the detailed documentation of the "Upside Down Sinus Flooding" and also some discussion: . http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=139765 . . "If you save one life, it is a though you save the world" "tiggerbengal" <tiggerben…@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ebcbe5f58207f2d37010853665e93a6a@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Since ‘97, I’ve had an odor that I can smell and taste. I can’t describe > it other than it’s nasty. Last year, I went to my primary doctor and they > did a ct scan. It showed fluids in my sinuses, so they prescribed biaxin, > which did not work. In august I saw an ent, and he gave me augmentin, > guafacien, and presdindone to see if he could erradicate it. That did not > work, so my last resort, or so I thought, was surgery. In November 2003, > I had sinus surgery, which my ent opened up my nasal passage and took out > a big cyst. It’s been almost 6 months now, and I am still having the same > bad smell and taste. It’s coming from my sinuses.. that I do know. Last > month, I saw an allergist who tested me for allergies and I have none, so > that ruled out allergies. He had me get a ct scan and they put me on > zithromax for a week for a supposedly mild sinus infection. So, I went > back to my ent and the nurse read my ct scan films and said it showed > none, but to continue it. At thetime, the bad stink went away but came > back. Today, she gave me gentamicin to irrigage with. She told me it > should help but to see the ent, which I go see anyways in July. What is > causing this and how do I get it to permanently go away for good? There > are some days it will go away for a few days, but then it comes back and > wont go away no matter how much water i drink or brush and listerine. > What kind of sinus issue am i dealing with? Im at the end of my rope.
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Since ‘97, I’ve had an odor that I can smell and taste. I can’t describe it other than it’s nasty. Last year, I went to my primary doctor and they did a ct scan. It showed fluids in my sinuses, so they prescribed biaxin, which did not work. In august I saw an ent, and he gave me augmentin, guafacien, and presdindone to see if he could erradicate it. That did not work, so my last resort, or so I thought, was surgery. In November 2003, I had sinus surgery, which my ent opened up my nasal passage and took out a big cyst. It’s been almost 6 months now, and I am still having the same bad smell and taste. It’s coming from my sinuses.. that I do know. Last month, I saw an allergist who tested me for allergies and I have none, so that ruled out allergies. He had me get a ct scan and they put me on zithromax for a week for a supposedly mild sinus infection. So, I went back to my ent and the nurse read my ct scan films and said it showed none, but to continue it. At thetime, the bad stink went away but came back. Today, she gave me gentamicin to irrigage with. She told me it should help but to see the ent, which I go see anyways in July. What is causing this and how do I get it to permanently go away for good? There are some days it will go away for a few days, but then it comes back and wont go away no matter how much water i drink or brush and listerine. What kind of sinus issue am i dealing with? Im at the end of my rope.
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Hi all, I have been suffering from a bad sinus infection for over 18 months now (golden Staph) have a low immune system and currently having immune replacement therapy. I am under a pain management doctors care which I am grateful for, but do get tired of the side effects of pain meds. Pain and sinus blocking in right sinus passage has been steadily getting worse over the past 3 months. (originally problem was on left side which was operated on twice to open up sinus so infection would drain, now have serve pain in left ant ram due to scaring and rough surgery and the infection) I am very reluctant to go and see ENT again (not the one who did surgery) because he has basically said stop smoking and it would help a great deal to clear up infection. (easier said than done) I saw another ENT twice last year and he tried to blame a dust mite allergy (been on allergy injections for 12 mths and it has made no difference) That ENT said nothing about smoking. I actually did stop smoking for 5 weeks after second surgery, and again late last year for 4 weeks, But bad pain was so bad, I started again. So doesn’t sound like smoking is main problem. But how does one convince an ENT this, they’re so hard to get through to. Has anyone been through similar problem and what did you do, would you go back to ENT, See another ENT, I’ve seen 3 and they’re all as useful as….. Please help, Email replies please. Thanks Phil
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Dear Phil, Some patients with sinus pain improve on papaya enzyme tablets. They have the chewable which I have my patients dissolve in mouth between cheek and gum. Ask your doctor about trying this for a week. By reducing the swelling of the sinus membrane this may take away the pain. Best wishes, Murray Grossan, MD Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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