Post nasal drip

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I have been reading all you messages with great interest, and like many of you have been suffering with sinus related problems for some years (although reading about some of you it puts my complaint into perspective, you are a brave bunch). I have been free from my sinus problems for about six months but recently they have returned with a vengeance. It is mostly "post nasal drip" with a constant swallowing of thin mucus accompanied by facial pain, fatigue and irritable bowels (brought on by the constant swallowing). i have tried all the usual medication with little success and have usually let it run its course. However, I am getting very depressed with being unable to pinpoint a cause; why has it returned? being disillusioned with the medical response here in the UK (one x-ray that showed up nothing) I have resorted to homeopathy (no improvement) and am now trying Chinese herbal medicine (not much of an improvement). My next avenue is accupuncture. Does anyone out there have any advise, or had any success treating PND with accupuncture? Thanks * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is Beautiful

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 05:27:27 -0800, JSpeck <jeremy.speckNOjeS…@birdlife.org.uk.invalid> wrote: >I have been free from my sinus problems for about six >months but recently they have returned with a vengeance. It >is mostly "post nasal drip" with a constant swallowing of

Sounds like allergies. I’d get allergy tested, then undertake the appropriate "environmental controls" and/or allergy shots.

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> >I have been free from my sinus problems for about six > >months but recently they have returned with a vengeance. It > >is mostly "post nasal drip" with a constant swallowing of > Sounds like allergies. I’d get allergy tested, then undertake the > appropriate "environmental controls" and/or allergy shots.

You get thick mucus from Allergies?  I thought that when you have allergies the discharge is clear, where as mine is yellow, and brown at times. Pleseant thought. Andras.

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 00:23:25 GMT, "Andras Stedra" <2900598…@home.com> wrote: >You get thick mucus from Allergies?  I thought that when you have allergies >the discharge is clear, where as mine is yellow, and brown at times. >Pleseant thought.

Allergies lead to chronic inflammation, which makes you suseptiple to infection, which increases the inflammation, which blocks off the sinus openings, which makes the infection chronic. It’s all connected. Allergies are thought to be involved in chronic sinusitus in 40 to 80 percent of people.

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This mucus means that the cilia of the nose are moving too slowly, hence the liquid dries up and thickens. There have been lots of discussions here onthis subject or check out http://www.ent-consult.com Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com

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Thanks for responding to my message. I have come to the conclusion that it is an allergy (I suffer from hayfever) but there seems to be no real pattern to the problem. I have cut out alcohol as I know that this doesn’t agree with my sinuses, and I am cutting out dairy products (although I have been for months indulging in both of these without any ill effects). If only I could pinpoint the guilty substance. I live in Cambridge, UK; anyone know of any allergy "experts" in this area of the country? British doctors are an old fashioned bunch and prefer to throw antihistamines at me as a great cure-all, to little or know effect. Thanks for listening, it’s good to talk to people who really understand. * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is Beautiful

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Although your post nasal drip could be due to allergies I wonder why you have had 6 months free from sinus problems. Did your symptoms occur after a bout flu? If you have had the symptoms for over 2 weeks ( viruses are usually self-limiting) it is possible you have a bacterial infection. The mucus can be clear and still have an infection A 2 week course of antibiotics is then necessary. You mention that you had an x-ray done. Was this just one frontal x-ray or was it a series of x-rays i.e front, L side, R.side and top of head ? Heather Collins UK Mikecheath…@oakwellmount.freeserve.co.uk ). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have been free from my sinus problems for about six > months but recently they have returned with a vengeance. It > is mostly "post nasal drip" with a constant swallowing of > thin mucus accompanied by facial pain, fatigue and > irritable bowels (brought on by the constant swallowing). i > have tried all the usual medication with little success and > have usually let it run its course. However, I am getting > very depressed with being unable to pinpoint a cause; why > has it returned?

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 01:18:55 -0800, JSpeck <jeremy.speckNOjeS…@birdlife.org.uk.invalid> wrote: >Thanks for responding to my message. I have come to the >conclusion that it is an allergy (I suffer from hayfever) >but there seems to be no real pattern to the problem. I >have cut out alcohol as I know that this doesn’t agree with >my sinuses, and I am cutting out dairy products (although I >have been for months indulging in both of these without any >ill effects). If only I could pinpoint the guilty >substance.

I hear you. I’m also in the process of trying to identify what’s causing habitual post nasal drip at night and sore throats in the morning. I’ve done a lot of environmental control, including sealing mattress and pillows in dust-proof covers, washing blanks in hot water every two weeks, and keeping the dog out of the bed. Also have HEPA filters on the furnace. Considering having the rugs pulled in the spring. I’m also, as of yesterday, finally making a commitment to getting my diet in order, eliminating chocolate (yeow!), sugar, refined flour, and possible wheat entirely. I’ve already eliminated dairy. We’ll see. I had allergy testing but it was inconclusive. I don’t think it’s pollen or another outdoor source because my symptoms aren’t seasonal. So I’m trying to reduce exposure to dust and dust mites, molds and mildew, etc. Another "connected" thing about all this is that the longer you’re inflammed by allergens and infections, the more sensitized you can get, which can make you sensitized to other things as well. I’ve recently discovered I’m now sensitized to the ink in newspapers and magazines. When I read the paper, mucus production kicks into overdrive. Good thing for Web-based newspapers. Oh, and I do the Murray twice a day, which helps clear away both allergens and excessive mucus.

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Could be viral, but it is not present all day, prefering to kick in after food and in the evening. It is particularly bad at night, presumably because I am recumbent and the mucus is collecting in my throat. The pain in my sinuses comes on suddenly and I come over dizzy & very tired with pain across my cheek bones. I will try some stronger antibiotics in desperation. What’s the general feeling about acupuncture? Thanks again for your messages: I have finally found people who take this seriously! * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is Beautiful

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Sorry, Don’t know much about acupuncture. I believe some people have had quite good results who have wanted to give up smoking or for certain migraines but I don’t know anybody who would recommend it for sinusitis. Can I add a point about antibiotics. Many people say that they will get some ’stronger’ antibiotics to get rid of an infection. A better word would be ‘more appropriate’. you live in the UK so your doctor probably follows the guidelines in the BNF (British National Formulary) which is a BMA publication. They advocate a 2 week course of either amoxycillin, erythromycin or doxycycline although not every doctor follows the 2 week rule. Many bacteria especially a good proportion of the  bacteria that are the usual causes of sinusitis are now resistant to erythromycin and amoxycillin and so other antibiotics are necessary. A 2 week course is stipulated because effective penetration of the sinuses is more difficult and is comparable to bone. So if you have an infection which is not sensitive enough to the particular antibiotic that you have been prescribed, you might feel better for a while because some of the infection has gone but the the symptoms will gradually return after finishing the course. The big problem is that antibiotics are prescribed ‘blind’i.e without doing a culture and sensitivity. Giving   a too short course can have the same effect. A bacterial infection can follow a viral infection such as a bout of flu but antibiotics are not active against viruses which in the case of cold viruses are self-limiting. Heather Collins UK Mikecheath…@oakwellmount.freeserve.co.uk JSpeck <jeremy.speckNOjeS…@birdlife.org.uk.invalid> wrote in message

news:12b1c19e.55930afb@usw-ex0109-069.remarq.com… > Could be viral, but it is not present all day, prefering to > kick in after food and in the evening. It is particularly > bad at night, presumably because I am recumbent and the > mucus is collecting in my throat. The pain in my sinuses > comes on suddenly and I come over dizzy & very tired with > pain across my cheek bones. I will try some stronger > antibiotics in desperation. What’s the general feeling > about acupuncture? Thanks again for your messages: I have > finally found people who take this seriously! > * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find

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Hello there! My name’s Stefano and I’m from Italy.  I  suffer from  terrible right post-nasal drip and bad breath sometimes.I also had a right sinus operation last summer and a tooth removed. I’ve already written to this newsgroup some time ago and come here every day to get new suggestions for my problem. I have tried everything I’ve read about on this newsgroup but nothing helps: nasal irrigation get the situation worse, nasal sprays, steroids, etc…nothing works.I also tried guaifenesine but there are no drugs containing high concentration of this substance in Italy. I’ve recently used Australian Tea tree oil with no results. I sometimes feel really desperate. I recently had a CT scan ( negative) and a sinus culture showing the presence of bacteria called BACILLUS SPECIES and some negative Staph. My ENT prescribe me some Rifampicin : it worked at first , as everything new I usually try , then the problem comes back again. I have a constant white, bad tasting, thick mucus going down my throat from the right side of my nose( not green or yellow). Nasal passages are alternatively blocked during the day. I’ve never had any terrible headache  or pain as many people suffer from. I’ve been traeted with a lot of antibiotics during the last ten years of my life: they seem to work the first two or three days but the problem never really disappear. I’ve also used the Therabreath products from Doctor Katz, assuming that bad taste  was caused by sulphur bacteria living in the mouth but THAT DID NOT WORK. I have no stomach or gum problems. I wonder if there are any products capable of dissolving the overproduction  of thick mucus  which is the source of my problem. I also think I’ve become sensible to any antibiotics and that’s why none of them works. Please help Stefano from Rome

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>Please help >Stefano from Rome

Hi, Have you been tested for allergies? You may not have an infection, but the body may be creating the mucus to rid itself of some offending substance. Sounds like you’ve tried everything else, sorry I can’t be of more help. Nadine Brooklyn, NY

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Ask your doctor about measures to increse the action of your nasal cilia. Sounds like ordinary mucus is stagnating, indication poor ciliary movement. there are refernces at http://members.aol.com:/ciliary16/pulmonary_sinusitis.html Best , Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com

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Stefano – Have you tried Homoeopathy?

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