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He just has me on a nasal spray (beclomethasone dipropionate) to help with the sinusitis – I’ve only been on this for a few days. There isn’t enough time for a follow-up appointment, as I’m moving to the UK in a few days. I’ve had throat swabs and other blood tests done, but nothing’s turned up. He examined my nasal passages and throat and found a lot of thick mucus. Is there anything else I should be doing? Cheers, Jamie "Steven D. Litvintchouk" <sdlit…@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message news:s5zJc.8870$sV2.3905@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jamie wrote: > > Thanks Steven, > > A couple of quick questions… How is a sore throat caused by sinusitis > > actually diagnosed? Is there much guesswork involved or are there fairly > > reliable indicators? It was diagnosed as the cause for me, but there didn’t > > appear to be a great degree of certainty. > Sore throat is known to be a common symptom of sinusitis, just as it is > with a simple common cold. > If your physician diagnosed sinusitis based on other signs, symptoms or > test results, then the simplest explanation of the sore throat is that > it’s caused by the sinusitis. Otherwise it would be quite a coincidence > that both the sore throat and the sinusitis developed at the same time. > Is your physician aware that you have been suffering with sinusitis for > three months? How is he treating you for that condition? > — > Steven D. Litvintchouk > Email: sdlit…@earthlinkNOSPAM.net > Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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news:EAPJc.8738$NA1.812837@news02.tsnz.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> He just has me on a nasal spray (beclomethasone dipropionate) to help with > the sinusitis – I’ve only been on this for a few days. There isn’t enough > time for a follow-up appointment, as I’m moving to the UK in a few days. > I’ve had throat swabs and other blood tests done, but nothing’s turned up. > He examined my nasal passages and throat and found a lot of thick mucus. > Is there anything else I should be doing? > Cheers, > Jamie > "Steven D. Litvintchouk" <sdlit…@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message > news:s5zJc.8870$sV2.3905@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net… > > Jamie wrote: > > > Thanks Steven, > > > A couple of quick questions… How is a sore throat caused by sinusitis > > > actually diagnosed? Is there much guesswork involved or are there fairly > > > reliable indicators? It was diagnosed as the cause for me, but there > didn’t > > > appear to be a great degree of certainty. > > Sore throat is known to be a common symptom of sinusitis, just as it is > > with a simple common cold. > > If your physician diagnosed sinusitis based on other signs, symptoms or > > test results, then the simplest explanation of the sore throat is that > > it’s caused by the sinusitis. Otherwise it would be quite a coincidence > > that both the sore throat and the sinusitis developed at the same time. > > Is your physician aware that you have been suffering with sinusitis for > > three months? How is he treating you for that condition? > > — > > Steven D. Litvintchouk > > Email: sdlit…@earthlinkNOSPAM.net > > Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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Jamie wrote: > Thanks Steven, > A couple of quick questions… How is a sore throat caused by sinusitis > actually diagnosed? Is there much guesswork involved or are there fairly > reliable indicators? It was diagnosed as the cause for me, but there didn’t > appear to be a great degree of certainty.
Sore throat is known to be a common symptom of sinusitis, just as it is with a simple common cold. If your physician diagnosed sinusitis based on other signs, symptoms or test results, then the simplest explanation of the sore throat is that it’s caused by the sinusitis. Otherwise it would be quite a coincidence that both the sore throat and the sinusitis developed at the same time. Is your physician aware that you have been suffering with sinusitis for three months? How is he treating you for that condition? — Steven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlit…@earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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Whenever I develop a sore throat, it’s usually an indication that a cold or sinus flair-up is in the offing. …I think it’s more of an "interior" condition that manifests itself via surface irritation, as opposed to a condition brought on by excess drainage. …In fact, I use a sore throat as a key indicator to spell the difference between a simple allergic reaction and something more serious –IE: cold, flu, sinus problem. …Jon
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Thanks Steven, A couple of quick questions… How is a sore throat caused by sinusitis actually diagnosed? Is there much guesswork involved or are there fairly reliable indicators? It was diagnosed as the cause for me, but there didn’t appear to be a great degree of certainty. Many thanks, Jamie "Steven D. Litvintchouk" <sdlit…@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message news:2vVIc.7860$kK.2736@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jamie wrote: > > Hi all, > > What’s the best way to relieve/treat a sore throat that’s caused by > > sinusitis? I’ve had this for three months now, and it’s driving me crazy. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > If the sore throat is caused by post nasal drip from your infected > sinuses, then I find that the best thing to do is irrigate your sinuses > to flush away and dilute those secretions before they have a chance to > drip down into your throat. > — > Steven D. Litvintchouk > Email: sdlit…@earthlinkNOSPAM.net > Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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Jamie wrote: > Hi all, > What’s the best way to relieve/treat a sore throat that’s caused by > sinusitis? I’ve had this for three months now, and it’s driving me crazy. > Any help would be much appreciated.
If the sore throat is caused by post nasal drip from your infected sinuses, then I find that the best thing to do is irrigate your sinuses to flush away and dilute those secretions before they have a chance to drip down into your throat. — Steven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlit…@earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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Hi all, What’s the best way to relieve/treat a sore throat that’s caused by sinusitis? I’ve had this for three months now, and it’s driving me crazy. Any help would be much appreciated. Many thanks, Jamie
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Jamie wrote: > Hi all, > What’s the best way to relieve/treat a sore throat that’s caused by > sinusitis? I’ve had this for three months now, and it’s driving me crazy. > Any help would be much appreciated. > Many thanks, > Jamie
I have found that gargling with standard hydrogen peroxide twice a day for three days is quite helpful. Be very careful not to swallow it, though. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–
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Hullo all, Many thanks for the fantastic response to my posting. I shall certainly be acting on most of, if not all of your suggestions. The thing is, I had a CAT scan last September as part of an investigation into why I should suddenly be having minor epileptic seizures…..nothing serious; deja vu, disorientation etc. (I’m 55 years old). I recall the specialist commenting on the scan "pics" that the sinuses were clear. Could anything this bad have developed in such a short space of time………given my history? I live and work on the coastal desert region of the south western corner of Namibia which is notorious for its incidence of allergy/sinus problems. Could this possibly be due in part to the relatively high, concentrated levels of pollen given off by introduced eucalyptus trees which were planted 50 years ago by the first inhabitants of the town? The climate is generally cool and humidity levels moderate. I tend to feel the cold more than others – especially when working outside exposed to the elements. My head almost goes numb with the cold although I have recently taken to wearing a Beanie-type hat to help keep the cold wind at bay. Because of my epilesy medication, I was advised to keep away from things like Beconase nasal sprays as they are known to trigger a seizure. Thanks again for your considerate responses. regards Mike > >Hi, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >As a newcomer to this newsgroup, I don’t know if this topic has been covered > >so please bear with me. > >I’ve suffered on and off with sinusitis for years and indeed just finished > >my second course of anti-biotics in 3 weeks for this, having seen that > >x-rays showed my sinuses to be "blocked". However, this latest spell has me > >winching in pain from my upper teeth > The teeth roots do extend close to the sinuses. So the teeth can affect the > sinsuses or vice-versa. > You probably have to have pretty severe sinusitis for it to go from the > sinuses to the teeth. > So, I think you need > – to see a sinus specialist who will order a CT scan and interpret it in > conjunction with your symptoms, if not already done. You mentioned you had > xrays but did you have a CT scan? It is much better. > – a panoramic dental xray by your dentist to make sure that thereis not a > dental origin > Really, if your sinus is blocked ans infected, you are going to have to resolve > that one way or the other – so get the best advice you can find. > >, especially after meals. I’ve to take > >strong pain-killers for relief – it’s a blinding, throbbing pain. I’ve never > >felt so miserable. Bad headaches have accompanied the sore teeth and > >wondered if this is a commonly reported occurrence. > >My wife complains of my bad breath and I am very conscious of this when > >working close with my work colleauges to the point of appearing > >disinterested in the discussions which may be taking place. > >I’m extremely p….ed off being sick so regularly, day after day. Even my > >wife thinks that I’m tending towards hypochondria…….I only wish it was > >that! I need advice on what to do. > >Constructive comments would be appreciated.
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On Sun, 9 May 2004 20:44:18 +0200, "Mike" <m…@m.ca> wrote: >Hullo all, >Many thanks for the fantastic response to my posting. I shall certainly be >acting on most of, if not all of your suggestions. >The thing is, I had a CAT scan last September as part of an investigation >into why I should suddenly be having minor epileptic seizures…..nothing >serious; deja vu, disorientation etc. (I’m 55 years old). I recall the >specialist commenting on the scan "pics" that the sinuses were clear.
If it was not a sinus specialist that looked at the CT scan, then you need to arrange to have the CT scan (the actual films, not the report) sent to a sinus specialist who will examine you guided by the films using an endoscope. A brief obervation that they were clear may not be conclusive. There are a number of different pairs of sinuses in the head that are quite extensive. Or, it could be correct and something else may be going on….. > Could >anything this bad have developed in such a short space of time………given >my history?
Your situation is unusual, and in such cases I do not think we can really rule anything in or out. That needs to be done by more medical opinions, I think, including a dental panoramic xray (which shows a good part of the maxillary sinus by the way). >I live and work on the coastal desert region of the south western corner of >Namibia which is notorious for its incidence of allergy/sinus problems. >Could this possibly be due in part to the relatively high, concentrated >levels of pollen given off by introduced eucalyptus trees which were planted >50 years ago by the first inhabitants of the town? The climate is generally >cool and humidity levels moderate. I tend to feel the cold more than >others – especially when working outside exposed to the elements. My head >almost goes numb with the cold although I have recently taken to wearing a >Beanie-type hat to help keep the cold wind at bay.
I think that is not helping the situation but it is impossible to tell without more tests whether it is a cause or just a trigger. We regularly have people from all over the world and all parts of the U.S. say that their locations are the worst for allergies…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Because of my epilesy medication, I was advised to keep away from things >like Beconase nasal sprays as they are known to trigger a seizure. >Thanks again for your considerate responses. >regards >Mike
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Hi, As a newcomer to this newsgroup, I don’t know if this topic has been covered so please bear with me. I’ve suffered on and off with sinusitis for years and indeed just finished my second course of anti-biotics in 3 weeks for this, having seen that x-rays showed my sinuses to be "blocked". However, this latest spell has me winching in pain from my upper teeth, especially after meals. I’ve to take strong pain-killers for relief – it’s a blinding, throbbing pain. I’ve never felt so miserable. Bad headaches have accompanied the sore teeth and wondered if this is a commonly reported occurrence. My wife complains of my bad breath and I am very conscious of this when working close with my work colleauges to the point of appearing disinterested in the discussions which may be taking place. I’m extremely p….ed off being sick so regularly, day after day. Even my wife thinks that I’m tending towards hypochondria…….I only wish it was that! I need advice on what to do. Constructive comments would be appreciated. Thanks Mike
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On Sat, 8 May 2004 10:11:53 +0200, "Mike" <m…@m.ca> wrote: >Hi, >As a newcomer to this newsgroup, I don’t know if this topic has been covered >so please bear with me. >I’ve suffered on and off with sinusitis for years and indeed just finished >my second course of anti-biotics in 3 weeks for this, having seen that >x-rays showed my sinuses to be "blocked". However, this latest spell has me >winching in pain from my upper teeth
The teeth roots do extend close to the sinuses. So the teeth can affect the sinsuses or vice-versa. You probably have to have pretty severe sinusitis for it to go from the sinuses to the teeth. So, I think you need – to see a sinus specialist who will order a CT scan and interpret it in conjunction with your symptoms, if not already done. You mentioned you had xrays but did you have a CT scan? It is much better. – a panoramic dental xray by your dentist to make sure that thereis not a dental origin Really, if your sinus is blocked ans infected, you are going to have to resolve that one way or the other – so get the best advice you can find. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->, especially after meals. I’ve to take >strong pain-killers for relief – it’s a blinding, throbbing pain. I’ve never >felt so miserable. Bad headaches have accompanied the sore teeth and >wondered if this is a commonly reported occurrence. >My wife complains of my bad breath and I am very conscious of this when >working close with my work colleauges to the point of appearing >disinterested in the discussions which may be taking place. >I’m extremely p….ed off being sick so regularly, day after day. Even my >wife thinks that I’m tending towards hypochondria…….I only wish it was >that! I need advice on what to do. >Constructive comments would be appreciated.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Sat, 8 May 2004 10:11:53 +0200, "Mike" <m…@m.ca> wrote: >Hi, >As a newcomer to this newsgroup, I don’t know if this topic has been covered >so please bear with me. >I’ve suffered on and off with sinusitis for years and indeed just finished >my second course of anti-biotics in 3 weeks for this, having seen that >x-rays showed my sinuses to be "blocked". However, this latest spell has me >winching in pain from my upper teeth, especially after meals. I’ve to take >strong pain-killers for relief – it’s a blinding, throbbing pain. I’ve never >felt so miserable. Bad headaches have accompanied the sore teeth and >wondered if this is a commonly reported occurrence. >My wife complains of my bad breath and I am very conscious of this when >working close with my work colleauges to the point of appearing >disinterested in the discussions which may be taking place. >I’m extremely p….ed off being sick so regularly, day after day. Even my >wife thinks that I’m tending towards hypochondria…….I only wish it was >that! I need advice on what to do. >Constructive comments would be appreciated.
Bad breath may be a sign of an infection. I myself had bad breath no matter how mush I brushed. some bacteria give off a foul odor. I suggest(it worked for me) irrigating with saline and collodial silver or traditional antibiotics. Gargleing with the collodial silver should help with oral problem. Google the internet and make up your own mind whether CS works or not. 2 universities have already said, yep, it works. www.silvermedicine.org "I cannot affirm God if I fail to affirm man. Therefore, I affirm both.Without a belief in human unity I am hungry and incomplete. Human unity is the fulfillment of diversity. It is the harmony of opposites. It is a many-stranded texture, with color and depth." -Norman Cousins
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Mike wrote: > Hi, > As a newcomer to this newsgroup, I don’t know if this topic has been covered > so please bear with me. > I’ve suffered on and off with sinusitis for years and indeed just finished > my second course of anti-biotics in 3 weeks for this, having seen that > x-rays showed my sinuses to be "blocked".
You need to see an ENT who will order a CT scan and possibly a nasal endoscopy as well. Only after the ENT sees what’s going on inside your sinuses can he then choose an appropriate course of treatment. — Steven L.
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There is a nerve called the alveolar nerve that sits about the teeth and below the maxillary sinus. Fluid or polyp or cyst pressing on that nerve can give you the symptoms you describe. Pain is not the worst complication. The nerve can be "killed" and that would affect the teeth. See the ENT doctor. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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Pain in the teeth with a blinding headache that really can’t be described to others is a common symptom of sinus problems or really bad allergies. You’ve already indicated a history of sinus problems, and the others have already advised you to see an ENT and an allergist and a dentist. I’d say in that order. You’re looking at steroids, allergy testing and possibly shots, and perhaps a surgical resolution. Take some time and learn how to allergy proof your home. Try a Google search for Jolly Ollie’s Self Help Sinus Guide or something similiar. I detailed this all out once some time ago. The only difference in my opinion from then to now is I no longer think that the steroids are such a good idea. The risks are pretty rare, but really bad. In the mean time, try irrigating, and perhaps try the typical over the counter remedies. Alieve, sudafed, afrin (for no more than three days), antihistamines, hot coffee or tea, hot steaming showers, etc. I’m sure you know the drill. Try to avoid the pain killers. Trust me, I know it’s bad pain. Once in a while is OK, but if you fall into the cycle of taking them regularly you will also end up addicted. A strung out sinusitis victim is a bad time….. -O Oh, and while I have everyone’s attention. SPRING TIME S**KS!!!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Mike" <m…@m.ca> wrote in message news:409bfb6a.0@news1.mweb.co.za… > Hi, > As a newcomer to this newsgroup, I don’t know if this topic has been covered > so please bear with me. > I’ve suffered on and off with sinusitis for years and indeed just finished > my second course of anti-biotics in 3 weeks for this, having seen that > x-rays showed my sinuses to be "blocked". However, this latest spell has me > winching in pain from my upper teeth, especially after meals. I’ve to take > strong pain-killers for relief – it’s a blinding, throbbing pain. I’ve never > felt so miserable. Bad headaches have accompanied the sore teeth and > wondered if this is a commonly reported occurrence. > My wife complains of my bad breath and I am very conscious of this when > working close with my work colleauges to the point of appearing > disinterested in the discussions which may be taking place. > I’m extremely p….ed off being sick so regularly, day after day. Even my > wife thinks that I’m tending towards hypochondria…….I only wish it was > that! I need advice on what to do. > Constructive comments would be appreciated. > Thanks > Mike
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One thing that is also often overlooked is the fact that sinus headaches and migraines are NOT mutually exclusive, I often have both at the same time,, they are the true headache from Hell as far as I can see. Bear – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -http://www.sinusnews.com/specialeditions/sinusheadaches.html Is a Headache Always a Sinus Headache? No. Some people experience headaches unrelated to sinusitis, which could actually be a tension headache, migraine, or cluster headache. In a surprise finding from a study conducted by the Headache Care Center in Springfield, Mo., it was revealed that 90 percent of patients who have self-diagnosed sinus headache, and even those with a physician diagnosis of sinus headache, actually met established criteria for the diagnosis of migraine. http://www.sinuspharmacy.com/news_sinusheadachesmigraine.html Sinus Headaches Versus Migraines (December 29, 2003) – According to the National Headache Foundation (NHF), a significant number of headache sufferers who think they have a sinus headache may actually be dealing with a migraine, and experts in the field of headache agree. (snip) Dr. Schreiber points out that there are many reasons that headache sufferers have difficulty distinguishing between a sinus headache and migraine. Among those reasons:
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Im about at the end of my rope here please can anyone tell me if they have had this. I get ringing in my ears but it feels like it affects my whole body somehow. my skin at least its feels like even air and gravity is hurting my skin. its so intense that I feel like I wont be able to take it. other times i just get ringing by itself which is bad enough when it lasts for days or weeks non stop. I havent been told i have ms. the only neuro in my area that has a lot of knowledge about ms wont see me cause I dont have insurance not even when i told them id be paying in cash. the last few weeks have been so intense i feel like i cant take much more a few times iv almost went to the er but i know ill get the all in my head lecture so why bother. I just want some answers. Kim
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"Kim" <dixie…@direcway.com> wrote in message
news:4a44c754.0402262154.6d86e01d@posting.google.com… > Im about at the end of my rope here please can anyone tell me if they > have had this. I get ringing in my ears but it feels like it affects > my whole body somehow. my skin at least its feels like even air and > gravity is hurting my skin. its so intense that I feel like I wont be > able to take it. other times i just get ringing by itself which is > bad enough when it lasts for days or weeks non stop. I havent been > told i have ms. the only neuro in my area that has a lot of knowledge > about ms wont see me cause I dont have insurance not even when i told > them id be paying in cash. the last few weeks have been so intense i > feel like i cant take much more a few times iv almost went to the er > but i know ill get the all in my head lecture so why bother. I just > want some answers. > Kim
Kim What about seeing a regular eye, nose, ear and throat specialist type doctor. Could be an inner ear problem. You might ask for some medication to give you some relief. Your other postings like chest tightness, headaches, vision problems and pain down your arm, skin nerve sensitivity, do seem to indicate a more systemic problem like MS. The best way to check for MS is an MRI with GAD contrast which costs about $900 . MS is diagnosed by eliminating other causes like Lyme disease, brain tumor, ALS and about 16 other more uncommon conditions/diseases.It can be quite expensive. Sometimes medications can cause a ringing in the ear. The fact the doctor would not see you because of your lack of medical insurance is criminal. My money states "This note is legal tender for all debts public and private". It would be in your best interest to get a job that would get you some medical insurance before you get officially diagnosed with whatever. MS medications are about $10,000 to $12,000 per year. Do you have a major teaching University Hospital where they train doctors or major medical clinic like Mayo in your area. Please keep trying to get medical help. If you state general area where you live, someone may be able to help you find a medical doctor or clinic. The local MS organization might have some doctor ’s names. Jack N Dalton
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Hi Kim, I have the skin pain, it’s a cold pain rather than a burning pain. The Neurologist gave me a prescription for Neurontin and that killed the pain. I take 900 mg three times a day. You need to see a Neuro or at least a sympathetic General practitioner. My skin pain was driving me "bananas". It got to the point where I literally wanted to craw out of my skin. Only get occasional ringing in ears though. I would start looking for a neuro in surrounding areas, or perhaps there are some community service agencies in your area that can assist in finding help. MOGG Mean Old Gary Gimp "Kim" <dixie…@direcway.com> wrote in message
news:4a44c754.0402262154.6d86e01d@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Im about at the end of my rope here please can anyone tell me if they > have had this. I get ringing in my ears but it feels like it affects > my whole body somehow. my skin at least its feels like even air and > gravity is hurting my skin. its so intense that I feel like I wont be > able to take it. other times i just get ringing by itself which is > bad enough when it lasts for days or weeks non stop. I havent been > told i have ms. the only neuro in my area that has a lot of knowledge > about ms wont see me cause I dont have insurance not even when i told > them id be paying in cash. the last few weeks have been so intense i > feel like i cant take much more a few times iv almost went to the er > but i know ill get the all in my head lecture so why bother. I just > want some answers. > Kim
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I get "vestibular" symptoms as well. Mostly nausea with moderate ear pain. I’ve written it off as vestibular neuronitis or sinusitis – do you think it could be MS related? Chuck
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Tough sitution. The swelling may be due to an infection. My mom who had "allergies" her whole life recently was diagnosed with Lyme. After long antibiotic treatment her allergies have disappeared. Theres lots of bacteria that can be the cause of your swelling. They love that sinus tissue for some reason. good luck. On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 00:06:46 +0800, Dear Drooper – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<droo…@bananasplits.com> wrote: >Hello all, >Just a quick perusal of this newsgroup makes me wonder how I managed >to remain unaware of it’s existence even though I’m a daily usenet >user and have been for over 10 years. >I think it’s becase I long ago resigned myself to accepting my >symptoms and just getting on with living, despite quite severe >problems. >I have suffered from lifelong symptoms comprising swollen, puffy >sinuses. However, I do not have congestion problems, runny nose, >sneezing or the other typical symptoms, except for seasonal itchiness >for a few weeks here and there when certain pollens are about. >I’m allergic to dust mites. >My sinuses have shown up as "OK" when CAT scanned at various times >over the years. I havent had a scan done for 5 years or so and havent >visted an ENT since 1985. I’m 43. >My problem seems to be swelling, not congestion. My face always feels >"full" and I want to "rip off my face and scrub the underneath" to try >to alleviate the pressure and the sensation of puffiness. I have >potent looking "allergic shiners". >My treatment is largely symptomatic rather than prophylactic, using >FESS saline spray, Livostin (levocabastine) spray, Beconase, Telfast >and NSAIDS. I refuse all drugs containing decongestants. >Of course, not much benefit is derived from these chemicals, as I cant >get them into sinuses which feel like they are swollen to the point >where there is no space inside. (Maybe they arent, but that’s how they >feel). my nose is perpetually clear, but everything else is >perpetually blocked! >I developed sleep apnea a couple of years ago (maybe I had few many >years, but it was only diagnosed two years ago) and now sleep with a >CPAP. I really like it! Strange as it may sound, the thought of >sleeping without the CPAP is`now as terrifying as the thought of >sleeping WITH it when I first was presented with the option. I really >sleep MUCH better. However, it does cause sinus problems to worsen in >my case (and many others also, naturally), but in my case the problem >directly worsened by the CPAP is the sinuses behind my eyebrows. >The sinuses behind my cheeks and in the corner of my eyes couldnt get >any worse! >I’ve developed "polyps" just below the skin surface where I >rub/pressure the sinuses with fingertips to somehow ease the >pressure or just to feel I’m doing "something" to combat the pressure >and feeling of swollen puffiness. But all that does is make the >’polyps" bigger! >People who dont suffer this look at me like I’m mad when I describe my >symptoms, as I look healthy outwardly. When I was a kid, the strong >headaches I’d get after being outside for extended periods were >attributed to "migraine" attacks, but I later realized it was sinus >related. It’s a lifelong ailment I wish I could alleviate. >So, after having expressing my frustration, I will close by saying I >intend to download and read all messages in this newsgroup and see if >I can finally get something done about my rotten head…. >Any suggestions gratefully received…. >Thanks, >Sean
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Some problems with CPAP involve the dryness that it causes which can result in nasal difficulties. Try moisturizing the nose. my product, Breathe.ease XL Nasal Moisturizer Gel has helped many with CPAP dryness. Ask your doctor about using this. Info at http://www.hydromedonline.com Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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On 24 Feb 2004 05:45:46 GMT, entcons…@aol.comnospam (ENTconsult) wrote: >Some problems with CPAP involve the dryness that it causes which can result in >nasal difficulties. >Try moisturizing the nose. >my product, Breathe.ease XL Nasal Moisturizer Gel has helped many with CPAP >dryness. Ask your doctor about using this. Info at >http://www.hydromedonline.com >Murray Grossan, M.D. >http://www.ent-consult.com
Thanks Murray, I actually ordered the full enchilada from you by fax last night. I use a humidifier with the CPAP, so dryness has not been an issue. The backward pressure HAS been an issue with respect to the sinuses behind my eyebrows. But the benefits of the CPAP outweigh the grief. My sinus problems have been with me for as long as I can remember. No treatment has ever worked to the point where the symptoms are completely alleviated. The most benefit I have ever received has been relief from pain and/or the "pulsing" throb that occurs periodically as the body attempts to equalize the pressure. Strangely, my sinuses are at their worst when the air is really humid. When the electrical buzzing/popping is occurring on top of power poles due to excessive humidity, my head feels swollen beyond belief. Dont know if this is due to humidty or barometric pressure. Even stranger, when in a cool, airconditioned (ie dry) room, that’s when I feel the most relief. To me, this seems contrary to most of the advice I receive. Thanks for the advice (and thanks to the others who have responded) Sean
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Hello all, Just a quick perusal of this newsgroup makes me wonder how I managed to remain unaware of it’s existence even though I’m a daily usenet user and have been for over 10 years. I think it’s becase I long ago resigned myself to accepting my symptoms and just getting on with living, despite quite severe problems. I have suffered from lifelong symptoms comprising swollen, puffy sinuses. However, I do not have congestion problems, runny nose, sneezing or the other typical symptoms, except for seasonal itchiness for a few weeks here and there when certain pollens are about. I’m allergic to dust mites. My sinuses have shown up as "OK" when CAT scanned at various times over the years. I havent had a scan done for 5 years or so and havent visted an ENT since 1985. I’m 43. My problem seems to be swelling, not congestion. My face always feels "full" and I want to "rip off my face and scrub the underneath" to try to alleviate the pressure and the sensation of puffiness. I have potent looking "allergic shiners". My treatment is largely symptomatic rather than prophylactic, using FESS saline spray, Livostin (levocabastine) spray, Beconase, Telfast and NSAIDS. I refuse all drugs containing decongestants. Of course, not much benefit is derived from these chemicals, as I cant get them into sinuses which feel like they are swollen to the point where there is no space inside. (Maybe they arent, but that’s how they feel). my nose is perpetually clear, but everything else is perpetually blocked! I developed sleep apnea a couple of years ago (maybe I had few many years, but it was only diagnosed two years ago) and now sleep with a CPAP. I really like it! Strange as it may sound, the thought of sleeping without the CPAP is`now as terrifying as the thought of sleeping WITH it when I first was presented with the option. I really sleep MUCH better. However, it does cause sinus problems to worsen in my case (and many others also, naturally), but in my case the problem directly worsened by the CPAP is the sinuses behind my eyebrows. The sinuses behind my cheeks and in the corner of my eyes couldnt get any worse! I’ve developed "polyps" just below the skin surface where I rub/pressure the sinuses with fingertips to somehow ease the pressure or just to feel I’m doing "something" to combat the pressure and feeling of swollen puffiness. But all that does is make the ‘polyps" bigger! People who dont suffer this look at me like I’m mad when I describe my symptoms, as I look healthy outwardly. When I was a kid, the strong headaches I’d get after being outside for extended periods were attributed to "migraine" attacks, but I later realized it was sinus related. It’s a lifelong ailment I wish I could alleviate. So, after having expressing my frustration, I will close by saying I intend to download and read all messages in this newsgroup and see if I can finally get something done about my rotten head…. Any suggestions gratefully received…. Thanks, Sean
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Like you I also have sinusitis and sleep apnea. All my life it seems that one side of my nose was always blocked. Never had sinus infection symptoms. Just a blocked nose. About 9 years ago I went through the sleep study routine was put on CPAP. Then my problems started. My head started to feel like I had a permanent head cold. Told my sleep doctor about it. Was told it was not the CPAP unit causing the problem and to go see a ENT doctor. Over the years I seen 5 different ENT doctors, had two surgeries. At present I am going to a new ENT doctor. He told me 2 weeks ago that my sinus problem is being caused by the CPAP unit and I will not really get any better unless I can get off of CPAP. Damn, I knew this 9 years ago when I first started feeling crappy after going on CPAP. But getting off of CPAP is every hosers dream. Now the challenge is there for me to TRY and chuck this CPAP machine. I started the South Beach diet on Feb 8. So far I have shed 15 lbs (Maybe water so far). But I plan to stick with the diet and see if I can put my CPAP machine in the basement for good. The Doctor told me that I was not really over weight, just about 6 inches too short for my weight (g).
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:20:21 GMT, iJah <ijahSpamSu…@mindspring.com> wrote: >Any other suggestions for how to reduce swelling?
You have to find the cause. It is probably dust or other irritants, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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If I go into a newish huge public auditorium (not a mall) with very high ceilings and massive up to date air systems, after two hours my nose starts completely opening up (and draining a lot of fluid as the inflammation recedes) in a way it never does at home. Why? Those big auditoriums tend to have very fancy air filtering equipment and a subtle air movement of almost completely clean air. Try and see if the same occurs for you. Another way you can experience this is to sit within 3 feet of a fairly powerful portable HEPA air filters for a couple of hours. My nose opens right up. But I cannot stand the noise, and they do not seem to work if they are any further away than that. So I know I have to aim for a dust free house, or possibly a better air system. Unfortuantely, this is very difficult to achieve. I think a lot of the time forced air systems are very imperfect, and are dragging in mold from underneath the house etc.
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To give make more clear what I mean by complete nasal/sinus shutdown – it’s like the phenomena you get after you’ve used oxymetazoline for the 2nd week in a row or more – before you read the really, really fine print that says not to use it for more than a couple days – and you find your nostrils closed up so damn tight nothing could possibly bust thru – frightening feeling, no? Anyone know exacly the effect I’m talking about. I’m getting this effect purely due to inflammation & extreme dryness. But, on that subject, I wonder if there is anything that can be done to help someone in the throes of Oxymetazoline withdrawal. this stuff should not be an over the counter med. On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 10:53:09 GMT, iJah <ijahSpamSu…@mindspring.com> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->worst case scenario – you simply cannot breathe thru your nose at all. >nothing, nada, zip. >has this ever happened to anyone on this group? what where the >consequences since if you are answering this, you obviously lived to >tell the tale. >i know you could breathe thru your mouth, but i’ve tried that and can >only do it for a short amount of time before i feel like i’m >suffocating and it’s very uncomfortable especially in this bitter >cold/dry weather where the air inside rooms that aren’t humidified is >so damn dry a walk across the carpet can get you lit up with static >electricity and taking off your shirt with the lights out can send a >shower of static sparks flying around like a little fireworks display. >what could be done for someone in a state like this? anything, or do >you just die? >i’m getting worried because i have very, very, very minimal >functionality left. just the tiniest trickle of air. nose is bone dry >and no amount of saline keeps it moist. i think possibly use of >Flonase has contributed to the dryness. i keep the room i try to sleep >in humidified but the rest of my house and the world usually isn’t >humidified properly.
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 16:41:54 -0500, Don Brady <dbr…@pobox.com> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->If I go into a newish huge public auditorium (not a mall) with very high >ceilings and massive up to date air systems, after two hours my nose starts >completely opening up (and draining a lot of fluid as the inflammation recedes) >in a way it never does at home. >Why? Those big auditoriums tend to have very fancy air filtering equipment and >a subtle air movement of almost completely clean air. >Try and see if the same occurs for you. >Another way you can experience this is to sit within 3 feet of a fairly >powerful portable HEPA air filters for a couple of hours. My nose opens >right up. But I cannot stand the noise, and they do not seem to work if they >are any further away than that. >So I know I have to aim for a dust free house, or possibly a better air system. >Unfortuantely, this is very difficult to achieve. I think a lot of the time >forced air systems are very imperfect, and are dragging in mold from underneath >the house etc.
interesting. yes, i can’t seem to find a place where the air doesn’t seem ‘funky’. dry, with evidence of dust collecting mainly, but in lower levels and basements dank and moldy. i used to think i had a SuperNose – i just sneezed these irritants off and my nose watered and ran a bit, but at least it was running – now it’s locked up bone dry and that is much worse. i also smoked fairly heavily before this crisis ocurred and still, in as bad a shape as i am, have not been able to kick completely but i’ve cut back *tremendously* and i’m very aware any time i do smoke a cigarette – i try to take as few puffs as possible, put it out when it’s half burned down, etc and i feel guilty as hell about touching the damn things – what a terrible addiction. i live on the third floor of a three story apt building – all carpeted. i’m sure there is all kinds of nasty gunk getting circulated thru the heating system in this building. we each have our own separate furnaces though. i ordered a electrostatic air filter for my furnace. hoping that might do some good.
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Opening your nose may not be the complete solution. If your throat is closing off it may be sleep apnea. If so you will need a and you will need a cpap machine may be with a full face mask. Talk to your physician about a sleep study. If you are blessed with insurance it may cover the cost. FatherTime <nos…@nospam.au> wrote in message
news:7et410ppiqbv1sdkrgl1a8c137527bhfoe@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I could never breath through my nose from about age 9 to age > 35 and I lived with it.. but now I have this problem where > if I try to breath through my mouth while sleeping my throat > clamps shut and I can not breath or sleep. But if I get my > nose clear then I can still breath and sleep so suddenly > it’s become very important for me to be able to breath with > my nose. > Someday I expect it to get bad enough that I can not breath > through my nose either but the doctors don’t want to do > anything about it.. 
> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 10:53:09 GMT, in alt.support.sinusitis > iJah <ijahSpamSu…@mindspring.com> wrote: > : > :worst case scenario – you simply cannot breathe thru your nose at all. > :nothing, nada, zip. > : > :has this ever happened to anyone on this group? what where the > :consequences since if you are answering this, you obviously lived to > :tell the tale. > : > :i know you could breathe thru your mouth, but i’ve tried that and can > 
nly do it for a short amount of time before i feel like i’m > :suffocating and it’s very uncomfortable especially in this bitter > :cold/dry weather where the air inside rooms that aren’t humidified is > :so damn dry a walk across the carpet can get you lit up with static > :electricity and taking off your shirt with the lights out can send a > :shower of static sparks flying around like a little fireworks display. > : > :what could be done for someone in a state like this? anything, or do > :you just die? > : > :i’m getting worried because i have very, very, very minimal > :functionality left. just the tiniest trickle of air. nose is bone dry > :and no amount of saline keeps it moist. i think possibly use of > :Flonase has contributed to the dryness. i keep the room i try to sleep > :in humidified but the rest of my house and the world usually isn’t > :humidified properly. > : > : > :
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worst case scenario – you simply cannot breathe thru your nose at all. nothing, nada, zip. has this ever happened to anyone on this group? what where the consequences since if you are answering this, you obviously lived to tell the tale. i know you could breathe thru your mouth, but i’ve tried that and can only do it for a short amount of time before i feel like i’m suffocating and it’s very uncomfortable especially in this bitter cold/dry weather where the air inside rooms that aren’t humidified is so damn dry a walk across the carpet can get you lit up with static electricity and taking off your shirt with the lights out can send a shower of static sparks flying around like a little fireworks display. what could be done for someone in a state like this? anything, or do you just die? i’m getting worried because i have very, very, very minimal functionality left. just the tiniest trickle of air. nose is bone dry and no amount of saline keeps it moist. i think possibly use of Flonase has contributed to the dryness. i keep the room i try to sleep in humidified but the rest of my house and the world usually isn’t humidified properly.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Don Brady <dbr…@pobox.com> wrote in message <news:v556109fvqvbv6v4gjl7mo6qftabvkfg2e@4ax.com>… > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 10:53:09 GMT, iJah <ijahSpamSu…@mindspring.com> wrote: > >worst case scenario – you simply cannot breathe thru your nose at all. > >nothing, nada, zip. > First of all, this has absolutely nothing to do with your sinuses. Your nose > is one thing, you sinuses are another. > You are talking about inflammation of the turbinates in your nose. This can > occur due to allergies or infection or irritation. > Mind you, if the turbinates are that irritated, the sinsues will probably not > be far behind. > It is quite common. > >has this ever happened to anyone on this group? what where the > >consequences since if you are answering this, you obviously lived to > >tell the tale.
Don — you make a very good point here. I can speak from experience….for years I’ve been diagnosed with Sinusitis. Until I saw an ENT with a brain and started my own research I realized my problems were my nose and not my sinuses (CT scan as well). So many times I still read posts of people compaining about sinusitis — or even people in my office saying their sinuses hurt and they can’t breathe through their nose. The turbinates and mucous membrane can cause terrible symptoms that may mimic sinusitis but be completely unrelated. Even today when I see my primary care I see "sinusitis" on the insurance forms. This just seems to be a catch all bucket for any nasal related problem. The treatment, however, seems to be surprisingly similar to that of sinusitis (decongestants, irrigation, antibiotics (assuming infection present), nasal steroids and of course surgery if all else fails). I just find it interesting that it is really 2 distinct problems, however the treatment regiment is so similar. Does anyone have any input of different treatments for these 2 distinct problems?
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iJah wrote: >> >worst case scenario – you simply cannot breathe thru your nose at all. >> >nothing, nada, zip. Don Brady <dbr…@pobox.com> wrote in message
<news:v556109fvqvbv6v4gjl7mo6qftabvkfg2e@4ax.com>… >> First of all, this has absolutely nothing to do with your sinuses. Your nose >> is one thing, you sinuses are another. >> You are talking about inflammation of the turbinates in your nose. This can >> occur due to allergies or infection or irritation. >> Mind you, if the turbinates are that irritated, the sinsues will probably not >> be far behind. >> It is quite common. >> >has this ever happened to anyone on this group? what where the >> >consequences since if you are answering this, you obviously lived to >> >tell the tale.
On 25 Jan 2004 07:58:45 -0800, charles39…@yahoo.com (Charles – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Stanton) wrote: >Don — you make a very good point here. I can speak from >experience….for years I’ve been diagnosed with Sinusitis. Until I >saw an ENT with a brain and started my own research I realized my >problems were my nose and not my sinuses (CT scan as well). So many >times I still read posts of people compaining about sinusitis — or >even people in my office saying their sinuses hurt and they can’t >breathe through their nose. The turbinates and mucous membrane can >cause terrible symptoms that may mimic sinusitis but be completely >unrelated. Even today when I see my primary care I see "sinusitis" on >the insurance forms. This just seems to be a catch all bucket for any >nasal related problem. >The treatment, however, seems to be surprisingly similar to that of >sinusitis (decongestants, irrigation, antibiotics (assuming infection >present), nasal steroids and of course surgery if all else fails). >I just find it interesting that it is really 2 distinct problems, >however the treatment regiment is so similar. Does anyone have any >input of different treatments for these 2 distinct problems?
OK, now i get the distinction. Nose is that thing in the middle of your face, it has bone, cartilage, mucous membranes & turbinates – sinuses are those openings in and around the nose that process air breathed in thru the nose. I think I understand now how I could have the problems I’m having without sinuses being involved at all.
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 10:53:09 GMT, iJah <ijahSpamSu…@mindspring.com> wrote: >>worst case scenario – you simply cannot breathe thru your nose at all. >>nothing, nada, zip.
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:06:46 -0500, Don Brady <dbr…@pobox.com> wrote: >First of all, this has absolutely nothing to do with your sinuses. Your nose >is one thing, you sinuses are another.
OK, ya got me on semantics. >You are talking about inflammation of the turbinates in your nose. This can >occur due to allergies or infection or irritation.
Yes, that is certainly the case. Although I still don’t have complete reality on exactly where/what ‘turbinates’ are. Need to find a good diagram. >Mind you, if the turbinates are that irritated, the sinsues will probably not >be far behind. >It is quite common.
OK iJah: >>has this ever happened to anyone on this group? what where the >>consequences since if you are answering this, you obviously lived to >>tell the tale.
Don Brady: >There is no problem short-term breathng through your mouth, but long-term you >will want to fgure out why your turbinates are swelling and get them down…
Yes, desperately trying to get the swelling down and find the cause. Personally, I think I have an infection that has worked it’s way into the bone structure over a long period of time and no amount of oral antibiotics are going to eradicate it. Right now using nasal steroid spray and a course of prednisone – 60mg for 3 days, 40 mg for 3 days, then 20 mg for three days Any other suggestions for how to reduce swelling? iJah: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>i know you could breathe thru your mouth, but i’ve tried that and can >>only do it for a short amount of time before i feel like i’m >>suffocating and it’s very uncomfortable especially in this bitter >>cold/dry weather where the air inside rooms that aren’t humidified is >>so damn dry a walk across the carpet can get you lit up with static >>electricity and taking off your shirt with the lights out can send a >>shower of static sparks flying around like a little fireworks display. >>what could be done for someone in a state like this? anything, or do >>you just die? >>i’m getting worried because i have very, very, very minimal >>functionality left. just the tiniest trickle of air. nose is bone dry >>and no amount of saline keeps it moist. i think possibly use of >>Flonase has contributed to the dryness. i keep the room i try to sleep >>in humidified
Don Brady: >If the humidity level is over 40% in your room, you are probably generating >mold and provdng a hoem for dust mites and that may be a major factor. >In general, you are probably better not running a humidifier because off this >problem.
OK, thanks for the tip. I have a humidity gage and I just try to keep it at right around 40-50%, just at the low end of the ‘comfort zone’ so to speak. <snip>
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -iJah wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:16:32 -0500, knob <h…@dontemailme.com> wrote: >>This has happened to probably everyone here. I lived this way >>for probably 5-6 years. Sinusus 100% blocked shut due to polyps. >>You get used to it. Surgery was the only cure. Nothing will >>remove polyps except a knife. I was so plugged that normal mucus >>that usually washes down your throat drained out my nose. I >>slept very poorly since snot was running down my face, into my >>ears, etc. You’ll live. > Did you breathe thru your mouth a lot then? This is what i find > extremely difficult.
Not too many other options. > I hope you are much better now.
I am, Thanks.
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 10:53:09 GMT, iJah <ijahSpamSu…@mindspring.com> wrote: >worst case scenario – you simply cannot breathe thru your nose at all. >nothing, nada, zip.
First of all, this has absolutely nothing to do with your sinuses. Your nose is one thing, you sinuses are another. You are talking about inflammation of the turbinates in your nose. This can occur due to allergies or infection or irritation. Mind you, if the turbinates are that irritated, the sinsues will probably not be far behind. It is quite common. >has this ever happened to anyone on this group? what where the >consequences since if you are answering this, you obviously lived to >tell the tale.
There is no problem short-term breathng through your mouth, but long-term you will want to fgure out why your turbinates are swelling and get them down… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->i know you could breathe thru your mouth, but i’ve tried that and can >only do it for a short amount of time before i feel like i’m >suffocating and it’s very uncomfortable especially in this bitter >cold/dry weather where the air inside rooms that aren’t humidified is >so damn dry a walk across the carpet can get you lit up with static >electricity and taking off your shirt with the lights out can send a >shower of static sparks flying around like a little fireworks display. >what could be done for someone in a state like this? anything, or do >you just die? >i’m getting worried because i have very, very, very minimal >functionality left. just the tiniest trickle of air. nose is bone dry >and no amount of saline keeps it moist. i think possibly use of >Flonase has contributed to the dryness. i keep the room i try to sleep >in humidified
If the humidity level is over 40% in your room, you are probably generating mold and provdng a hoem for dust mites and that may be a major factor. In general, you are probably better not running a humidifier because off this problem. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->but the rest of my house and the world usually isn’t >humidified properly.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -iJah wrote: > worst case scenario – you simply cannot breathe thru your nose at all. > nothing, nada, zip. > has this ever happened to anyone on this group? what where the > consequences since if you are answering this, you obviously lived to > tell the tale. > i know you could breathe thru your mouth, but i’ve tried that and can > only do it for a short amount of time before i feel like i’m > suffocating and it’s very uncomfortable especially in this bitter > cold/dry weather where the air inside rooms that aren’t humidified is > so damn dry a walk across the carpet can get you lit up with static > electricity and taking off your shirt with the lights out can send a > shower of static sparks flying around like a little fireworks display. > what could be done for someone in a state like this? anything, or do > you just die?
Go see your ENT. He can do a nasal endoscopy to look up your nostrils and see where the problem is. You may either have a physical blockage (swelling), and/or thick mucus that has blocked up your nasal passages. Nasal irrigation will take care of the latter problem. In my case, things had gotten so bad that my ENT was simply unable to get his endoscope up thru my left nostril. He kept hitting blockages and constrictions until he gave up. At that point, I elected for surgery. — Steven L.
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This has happened to probably everyone here. I lived this way for probably 5-6 years. Sinusus 100% blocked shut due to polyps. You get used to it. Surgery was the only cure. Nothing will remove polyps except a knife. I was so plugged that normal mucus that usually washes down your throat drained out my nose. I slept very poorly since snot was running down my face, into my ears, etc. You’ll live. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -iJah wrote: > worst case scenario – you simply cannot breathe thru your nose at all. > nothing, nada, zip. > has this ever happened to anyone on this group? what where the > consequences since if you are answering this, you obviously lived to > tell the tale. > i know you could breathe thru your mouth, but i’ve tried that and can > only do it for a short amount of time before i feel like i’m > suffocating and it’s very uncomfortable especially in this bitter > cold/dry weather where the air inside rooms that aren’t humidified is > so damn dry a walk across the carpet can get you lit up with static > electricity and taking off your shirt with the lights out can send a > shower of static sparks flying around like a little fireworks display. > what could be done for someone in a state like this? anything, or do > you just die? > i’m getting worried because i have very, very, very minimal > functionality left. just the tiniest trickle of air. nose is bone dry > and no amount of saline keeps it moist. i think possibly use of > Flonase has contributed to the dryness. i keep the room i try to sleep > in humidified but the rest of my house and the world usually isn’t > humidified properly.
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:16:32 -0500, knob <h…@dontemailme.com> wrote: >This has happened to probably everyone here. I lived this way >for probably 5-6 years. Sinusus 100% blocked shut due to polyps. >You get used to it. Surgery was the only cure. Nothing will >remove polyps except a knife. I was so plugged that normal mucus >that usually washes down your throat drained out my nose. I >slept very poorly since snot was running down my face, into my >ears, etc. You’ll live.
Did you breathe thru your mouth a lot then? This is what i find extremely difficult. I hope you are much better now.
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As I posted elsewhere on this site today, last week was a less than stellar week for me. I did not log regularly and my eating, while always starting out well, three times deteriorated around dinner. Not with big meals, just little nibbles. I have had this darned cough for at least two weeks and it is really getting me down. It has settled deeply into my chest, keeps me up a lot at night, yet it really doesn’t seem a big enough deal to go get an antibiotic over. I think I will if come Friday I still feel short of breath at odd times. In any event, I did very little cardio last week because the training sessions just wore me out…the main result being I only lost .5 lbs. However, the point of the post is that today I was running (or should I say walking) some errands and I saw one thing and experienced another which convinced me I should stay the course. First, I saw a woman about my age painfully walking out of a store. I could tell her knees were killing her because she was walking like I used to before I lost my first 80 lbs. She was very, very large. I distinctly remember Tom, during one of his tough love sessions, seriously telling me that his whole goal was not to get me to be a better olympic weight lifter, but to get me to drop the weight. He told me that if I didn’t, I would be in a walker by 65, that my knees just couldn’t take it anymore. He told me I was doing the hard part…I was going to the gym daily and exercising. That is was time for me to tackle the nutrition part. I had to do both. Then, later today, I took off my shoes after a day of painting (yes, we are still at it), cleaning, doing laundry and shopping. I thought I could cook dinner in stocking feet. Well, hello, I was wrong. I guess I really do need the support of those things because I pronate so badly, that is one of the things that affects my knees. I was in so much pain by dinner I put them back on and iced my knees. Much better. but I realized that I didn’t want to be that woman slowly making her way through a parking lot, in such obvious pain. I don’t want to be in a walker in 15 years (ok, 13). I will do the necessary thing and will stay the course, as hard as it is sometimes. One final note: I made the acorn squash stuffed with ground turkey tonight for dinner. It was wonderful! What a good idea and thank you to whomever posted that idea. I never had any idea acorn squash was so sweet on its own since the only way my mom every served it was drenched in butter and brown sugar . Elise.
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Remember, don’t get an antibiotic unless you have a bacterial infection. Antibiotics don’t work on respiratory viruses and you will just be setting yourself up for having to take ever stronger antibiotics — you know, the ones with the gross side effects. Over-use of antibiotics is setting us up to not be able to fix anything with antibiotics in the next decade or so. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As I posted elsewhere on this site today, last week was a less than stellar week for me. I did not log regularly and my eating, while always starting out well, three times deteriorated around dinner. Not with big meals, just little nibbles. I have had this darned cough for at least two weeks and it is really getting me down. It has settled deeply into my chest, keeps me up a lot at night, yet it really doesn’t seem a big enough deal to go get an antibiotic over. I think I will if come Friday I still feel short of breath at odd times. In any event, I did very little cardio last week because the training sessions just wore me out…the main result being I only lost .5 lbs.
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I too have a bad knee, and since I’ve lost 50 pounds there’s a lot less pain. I’m hoping after another 50 to 75 pounds that my knee feels even better. Good luck on you weight loss and knees :<)
Elise already knows this (since I talk to her all the time), but I just wanted to mention that I used to have really terrible knees. I couldn’t walk 100 yards without an unacceptable level of pain — both while walking and afterward. This was partly due to an injury but it was exacerbated by my weight and the whole thing was just snowballing and getting worse. There were a lot of contributors to getting better (including squats 
), but taking off weight has been a big part of it. I never imagined I’d be able to run one day. Chris 262/172/???
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Hello Elise, I hope you get to felling better soon. I’ve been getting sinus infections one after another lately. I went to a local Care Now facility the first two times I had what they claim to be sinusitis and they gave me an antibiotic and after I’d start feeling better I’d get it again. Well I went to my regular doctor on the third occasion and he placed me on a different antibiotic, a steroid medicine, and a decongestion. It’s seems to have gone away, but I still have four more days of antibiotics to take and I’m hoping I don’t have any recurring symptoms. I too have a bad knee, and since I’ve lost 50 pounds there’s a lot less pain. I’m hoping after another 50 to 75 pounds that my knee feels even better. Good luck on you weight loss and knees :<) Paul – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As I posted elsewhere on this site today, last week was a less than stellar week for me. I did not log regularly and my eating, while always starting out well, three times deteriorated around dinner. Not with big meals, just little nibbles. I have had this darned cough for at least two weeks and it is really getting me down. It has settled deeply into my chest, keeps me up a lot at night, yet it really doesn’t seem a big enough deal to go get an antibiotic over. I think I will if come Friday I still feel short of breath at odd times. In any event, I did very little cardio last week because the training sessions just wore me out…the main result being I only lost .5 lbs. However, the point of the post is that today I was running (or should I say walking) some errands and I saw one thing and experienced another which convinced me I should stay the course. First, I saw a woman about my age painfully walking out of a store. I could tell her knees were killing her because she was walking like I used to before I lost my first 80 lbs. She was very, very large. I distinctly remember Tom, during one of his tough love sessions, seriously telling me that his whole goal was not to get me to be a better olympic weight lifter, but to get me to drop the weight. He told me that if I didn’t, I would be in a walker by 65, that my knees just couldn’t take it anymore. He told me I was doing the hard part…I was going to the gym daily and exercising. That is was time for me to tackle the nutrition part. I had to do both. Then, later today, I took off my shoes after a day of painting (yes, we are still at it), cleaning, doing laundry and shopping. I thought I could cook dinner in stocking feet. Well, hello, I was wrong. I guess I really do need the support of those things because I pronate so badly, that is one of the things that affects my knees. I was in so much pain by dinner I put them back on and iced my knees. Much better. but I realized that I didn’t want to be that woman slowly making her way through a parking lot, in such obvious pain. I don’t want to be in a walker in 15 years (ok, 13). I will do the necessary thing and will stay the course, as hard as it is sometimes. One final note: I made the acorn squash stuffed with ground turkey tonight for dinner. It was wonderful! What a good idea and thank you to whomever posted that idea. I never had any idea acorn squash was so sweet on its own since the only way my mom every served it was drenched in butter and brown sugar . Elise.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As I posted elsewhere on this site today, last week was a less than stellar week for me. I did not log regularly and my eating, while always starting out well, three times deteriorated around dinner. Not with big meals, just little nibbles. I have had this darned cough for at least two weeks and it is really getting me down. It has settled deeply into my chest, keeps me up a lot at night, yet it really doesn’t seem a big enough deal to go get an antibiotic over. I think I will if come Friday I still feel short of breath at odd times. In any event, I did very little cardio last week because the training sessions just wore me out…the main result being I only lost .5 lbs.
Hey, that half pound loss is still in the right direction! Hope you don’t catch the flu that has been running through my family the past week. Two of my granddaughters were out of school last week and my daughter is home today with it. I’m hoping it doesn’t catch up with me. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – However, the point of the post is that today I was running (or should I say walking) some errands and I saw one thing and experienced another which convinced me I should stay the course. First, I saw a woman about my age painfully walking out of a store. I could tell her knees were killing her because she was walking like I used to before I lost my first 80 lbs. She was very, very large. I distinctly remember Tom, during one of his tough love sessions, seriously telling me that his whole goal was not to get me to be a better olympic weight lifter, but to get me to drop the weight. He told me that if I didn’t, I would be in a walker by 65, that my knees just couldn’t take it anymore. He told me I was doing the hard part…I was going to the gym daily and exercising. That is was time for me to tackle the nutrition part. I had to do both.
I live close to my childhood home town so I see my grade school classmates a few times each year. As we grow older I’m seeing a significant difference in our health and physical capabilites. There are six of us. Three are overweight and suffer from several health problems associated with obesity – heart problems, knee replacements, diabetes, etc. The other two are about my size and none of us have any major health problems. One does have a bum knee but it was due to an accident. Seeing the problems of my childhood friends has certainly been a motivator for me to continue with my exercise and diet. My mother was overweight and she was the first one to admit most of her health problems were associated with her weight. I only wish she had listened to the good advice she gave to my sister and me. Now if I could only get my youngest daughter to listen to me. She’s overweight and is starting to have the same health problems as my mother. She keeps saying she needs to lose some weight but I just haven’t seen any progress toward that goal. Being her mother I don’t say too much to her unless she’s the one who initiates the conversation. Even then I tread on thin ice knowing the Mom doesn’t know crap attitude will soon surface<g. You’re doing great – keep it up! Beverly – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Then, later today, I took off my shoes after a day of painting (yes, we are still at it), cleaning, doing laundry and shopping. I thought I could cook dinner in stocking feet. Well, hello, I was wrong. I guess I really do need the support of those things because I pronate so badly, that is one of the things that affects my knees. I was in so much pain by dinner I put them back on and iced my knees. Much better. but I realized that I didn’t want to be that woman slowly making her way through a parking lot, in such obvious pain. I don’t want to be in a walker in 15 years (ok, 13). I will do the necessary thing and will stay the course, as hard as it is sometimes. One final note: I made the acorn squash stuffed with ground turkey tonight for dinner. It was wonderful! What a good idea and thank you to whomever posted that idea. I never had any idea acorn squash was so sweet on its own since the only way my mom every served it was drenched in butter and brown sugar . Elise.
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At least you were still losing weight while being sick and didn’t gain any… That is a plus. — Email me at: perpleglow(AT)comcast.net – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As I posted elsewhere on this site today, last week was a less than stellar week for me. I did not log regularly and my eating, while always starting out well, three times deteriorated around dinner. Not with big meals, just little nibbles. I have had this darned cough for at least two weeks and it is really getting me down. It has settled deeply into my chest, keeps me up a lot at night, yet it really doesn’t seem a big enough deal to go get an antibiotic over. I think I will if come Friday I still feel short of breath at odd times. In any event, I did very little cardio last week because the training sessions just wore me out…the main result being I only lost .5 lbs. However, the point of the post is that today I was running (or should I say walking) some errands and I saw one thing and experienced another which convinced me I should stay the course. First, I saw a woman about my age painfully walking out of a store. I could tell her knees were killing her because she was walking like I used to before I lost my first 80 lbs. She was very, very large. I distinctly remember Tom, during one of his tough love sessions, seriously telling me that his whole goal was not to get me to be a better olympic weight lifter, but to get me to drop the weight. He told me that if I didn’t, I would be in a walker by 65, that my knees just couldn’t take it anymore. He told me I was doing the hard part…I was going to the gym daily and exercising. That is was time for me to tackle the nutrition part. I had to do both. Then, later today, I took off my shoes after a day of painting (yes, we are still at it), cleaning, doing laundry and shopping. I thought I could cook dinner in stocking feet. Well, hello, I was wrong. I guess I really do need the support of those things because I pronate so badly, that is one of the things that affects my knees. I was in so much pain by dinner I put them back on and iced my knees. Much better. but I realized that I didn’t want to be that woman slowly making her way through a parking lot, in such obvious pain. I don’t want to be in a walker in 15 years (ok, 13). I will do the necessary thing and will stay the course, as hard as it is sometimes. One final note: I made the acorn squash stuffed with ground turkey tonight for dinner. It was wonderful! What a good idea and thank you to whomever posted that idea. I never had any idea acorn squash was so sweet on its own since the only way my mom every served it was drenched in butter and brown sugar . Elise.
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Has anyone here been successfully treated for fungal sinusitis? How? I’m getting demoralized. Jane
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I’m being treated right now with Amphotercin B mixed in a sterile salt water solution. I spray 10cc into each nostril three times a day using a syringe with an atomizer on the end. Obviously a lot runs out but my ENT wanted the spray to get everywhere inside. I’m better but I just had surgery a month or so ago also. I don’t know when/if I’ll be able to call myself totally cured. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -JM wrote: > Has anyone here been successfully treated for fungal sinusitis? How? > I’m getting demoralized. > Jane
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Hi Jane, Sorry your not allowed to get demoralized, you have to keep fighting. :>) How does one know they have fungal sinusitis ? jon "JM" <jma…@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:hcXsb.168681$pT1.109831@twister.nyc.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Has anyone here been successfully treated for fungal sinusitis? How? > I’m getting demoralized. > Jane
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Hello Jane …I have done everything this last 4 years including 4 surgeries using all the sprays and antibiotics mentioned here on the group which only seemed to simmer down the infection which by then was bouncing between my lungs and sinus so I added a lung specialist to my appointments ..The lung Doc additional tests and gave me a nebulizer machine but said the sinus infection was the source of my recurring problems and prescribed the sameo sameo meds that never quite cleared me up…10 months ago I was given Amphotercin B as a 1% solution to irrigate the nose twice a day after what I swore was the last surgery I will ever have ..the Amphotercin B wash seemed to control what i call the lower area..I never felt clear in the sinus ….about 6 weeks ago I used the nebulizer (mist machine) with the Amphotercin B solution which you breath in as a mist and within 5 days my lungs were absolutly clear and feeling the best I had in over a year …sooooo last week I started to inhale through my nose the Amphotercin B mist which i find reaches my sinus area and I’m almost cleared up this morning I awoke and could smell the coffee roaster from the neighbors ,,first time since last surgery I could smell , what a blessing the sence of smell is…….Talk with your doc about a nebulizer and Amphotercin B solution Michael "JM" <jma…@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:hcXsb.168681$pT1.109831@twister.nyc.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Has anyone here been successfully treated for fungal sinusitis? How? > I’m getting demoralized. > Jane
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1. What symptoms did you have with you lungs? 2. What tests did the lung doctor do? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -michael fowler wrote: > Hello Jane …I have done everything this last 4 years including 4 surgeries > using all the sprays and antibiotics mentioned here on the group which only > seemed to simmer down the infection which by then was bouncing between my > lungs and sinus so I added a lung specialist to my appointments ..The lung > Doc additional tests and gave me a nebulizer machine but said the sinus > infection was the source of my recurring problems and prescribed the sameo > sameo meds that never quite cleared me up…10 months ago I was given > Amphotercin B as a 1% solution to irrigate the nose twice a day after what I > swore was the last surgery I will ever have ..the Amphotercin B wash seemed > to control what i call the lower area..I never felt clear in the sinus > ….about 6 weeks ago I used the nebulizer (mist machine) with the > Amphotercin B solution which you breath in as a mist and within 5 days my > lungs were absolutly clear and feeling the best I had in over a year > …sooooo last week I started to inhale through my nose the Amphotercin B > mist which i find reaches my sinus area and I’m almost cleared up this > morning I awoke and could smell the coffee roaster from the neighbors > ,,first time since last surgery I could smell , what a blessing the sence of > smell is…….Talk with your doc about a nebulizer and Amphotercin B > solution Michael > "JM" <jma…@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:hcXsb.168681$pT1.109831@twister.nyc.rr.com… >>Has anyone here been successfully treated for fungal sinusitis? How? >>I’m getting demoralized. >>Jane
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hello Joe …..I lost breathing capacity to the point I got winded going up 1 flight of stairs ..the amoxicilin 2000 mg daily loosened it up a bit but not gone,,, the doc did a breathing study ..along with ultrasound exam and x-rays and cat scan , he said there was nothing bad showing but I have "dirty lungs " …I wouldn’t go for a lung tissue sample unless I worsened … after I started the Amphotercin B by nebulizer the second day I started coughing up lots of yellowish green stuff which lasted the next 4 days less each day..Michael "Joe" <g…@nospam.cpm> wrote in message
news:vrg6539ji4ob78@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 1. What symptoms did you have with you lungs? > 2. What tests did the lung doctor do? > michael fowler wrote: > > Hello Jane …I have done everything this last 4 years including 4 surgeries > > using all the sprays and antibiotics mentioned here on the group which only > > seemed to simmer down the infection which by then was bouncing between my > > lungs and sinus so I added a lung specialist to my appointments ..The lung > > Doc additional tests and gave me a nebulizer machine but said the sinus > > infection was the source of my recurring problems and prescribed the sameo > > sameo meds that never quite cleared me up…10 months ago I was given > > Amphotercin B as a 1% solution to irrigate the nose twice a day after what I > > swore was the last surgery I will ever have ..the Amphotercin B wash seemed > > to control what i call the lower area..I never felt clear in the sinus > > ….about 6 weeks ago I used the nebulizer (mist machine) with the > > Amphotercin B solution which you breath in as a mist and within 5 days my > > lungs were absolutly clear and feeling the best I had in over a year > > …sooooo last week I started to inhale through my nose the Amphotercin B > > mist which i find reaches my sinus area and I’m almost cleared up this > > morning I awoke and could smell the coffee roaster from the neighbors > > ,,first time since last surgery I could smell , what a blessing the sence of > > smell is…….Talk with your doc about a nebulizer and Amphotercin B > > solution Michael > > "JM" <jma…@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:hcXsb.168681$pT1.109831@twister.nyc.rr.com… > >>Has anyone here been successfully treated for fungal sinusitis? How? > >>I’m getting demoralized. > >>Jane
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It sounds like there is a small area of your sinuses that have not recovered normal cilia function. I believe you can speed things up by asking your doctor for an Rx of Bactroban ointment to use in your nose 2x a day. This antibiotic may have an excellent local action to clear this area of infection. Or ask your doctor about using Breathe.ease XL nasal gel. Although this is not an antibiotic, it acts to moisturize the area in order to allow your own natural healing to take place – the moisture acts as a canal to enable healing elements to get there. If you can figure out which side this is, use the ointment or gel on that side. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com http://www.hydromedonline.com/presentingthehydropulse/
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Ok, I have a question that both pertains to my specific condition as well as sinusitis in general. I’ll try to keep it short. I get sinus infections about twice a year. They’re very uncomfortable, but usually go away in two or three weeks. Just after Thanksgiving, I developed more mild symptoms — sore throat, discolored and bloody mucous, bad breath (as my wife so gently told me), post-nasal drip. Because my symptoms were so much milder than when I usually experience a sinus infections (usually I’m severely congested and can’t breath and often also feverish, but not this time) I put going off to the doc until like two months later. I went to a GP, got 10 days of anitbiotics and decongenstants, which did basically nothing. It lasted so long and my symptoms were so mild, I wondered if it was sinusitis or something else. But it persisted, and then, around March, I saw an ENT and over the course of three visits got a CT that he said showed a mild infection, went on antiboitcs for four weeks and was prescribed Nasacort. Around that time I also bought a Grossan Irragator (use it twice a day everyday) and started feeling a lot better. No more bad breath, my wife reports, a lot less post-nasal drip. So overall, I was on antibotics for 10 days in Jan. then four weeks around April. Since then I use my irrigator twice a day and two sprays of Nasacort in each nostril once a day. But here’s the deal. I’m still having some flouresent yellow and bloody mucus. It’s not as common as it was before treatment, when I’d blow my nose half a dozen times a day and half of those times would see discoloration. Now, it’s only after I irrigate and see discoloration in very small quantities. Most of what comes out is clear or white. But each time I’ll see at least a little dab of flouresent yellow sometimes mixed with blood. I’ve investigated sinusitis a great deal and have heard conflicting things. I’ve read any mucous discoloration is a sign of infection and I’ve read the contrary. So which is true? And is it likely I still have an infection and require more medical treatment, or does it sound like I don’t have infection and should chill out?
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