Filed under: Sinusitis Symptoms
Question:
I guess you Guys are right. I have been wearing an undershirt under my PJ top since I had a sinus infection 4 weeks ago. I am warmer and do not feel congested in the morning. I have low BP and I feel cold at night, so cold that I wake up and put another blanket on the bed. My doctor has run all kinds of tests and have checked my thyroid but everything is okay. I was always cold as a child too. shirley
Response:
On 11/28/05 10:32 PM, in article 88tno1ho2qdk37gu6v4tp6ibqtfiake…@4ax.com, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Don Brady" <dbr…@pobox.com> wrote: > On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:25:33 +0800, "Frank" <Francis.inva…@hotmail.com> > wrote: >> Sleeping with a scarf (non-fibre rich type) on my neck, I had much less >> sinusitis attack lately. >> I feel my sinus is caused by cold air and dust. I live in the tropical, but >> it >> could get cold in deep of the night. >> Hope this help some sufferers here. 
> Yes I think you are right that keeping the upper body (maybe even the head) > warm is very important at night. > An undershirt or even a sweater may help too if one feels at all chilled… > I once had a doctor tell me that and I think he is right. > Any sort of chill tends to cause me to cough too.
Correct.When you have allergies or a sinus infection, your body thermostate is "crooked". Instead of warming up in the normal way, you sneeze, cough, hack, congest which does warm up your body but in a "crooked" way. This is why hot tea BEFORE you get out of bed is so important in such situations to avoid the AM symptoms which can start a cascade. Anything you can co to avoid the "crooked thermostat" from being triggered is good – whether it is warming the room, wearing a head cover in sleep, etc.
Response:
I feel my sinus is caused by cold air and dust. I live in the tropical, but it could get cold in deep of the night. Hope this help some sufferers here.
Response:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:25:33 +0800, "Frank" <Francis.inva…@hotmail.com> wrote: >Sleeping with a scarf (non-fibre rich type) on my neck, I had much less sinusitis attack lately. >I feel my sinus is caused by cold air and dust. I live in the tropical, but >it >could get cold in deep of the night. >Hope this help some sufferers here.
Yes I think you are right that keeping the upper body (maybe even the head) warm is very important at night. An undershirt or even a sweater may help too if one feels at all chilled… I once had a doctor tell me that and I think he is right. Any sort of chill tends to cause me to cough too.
Response:
Question:
I’ve had allergies all my life and my MD has checked my thyroid many times but it is not low. He does a TSH blood test and checks my glands in my neck manually. He is an Endocine Md that specializes in the thyroid gland. I’ve had a biopsy and a scan too. shirley
Response:
I was wondering if being hyperthyriod could be causing my Sinusitis/Rhinitis? I’ve had sinus problems moslty rhinitis for over 5 years now. 3 sinus infections as well. I was wondering if anyone knows of some sort of corilation between the two diseases? I’ve ony noticed the thyriod symptoms for about 3 months now. David Sacramento, CA
Response:
Dball63 wrote: > I was wondering if being hyperthyriod could be causing my > Sinusitis/Rhinitis? I’ve had sinus problems moslty rhinitis for over 5 > years now. 3 sinus infections as well. I was wondering if anyone knows > of some sort of corilation between the two diseases? I’ve ony noticed > the thyriod symptoms for about 3 months now.
"Hyperthyroidism"??? Doesn’t sound logical. Now *hypothyroidism* might possibly lower your resistance to infections. But not hyperthyroidism. — Steven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlit…@earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
Response:
On 18 Oct 2005 13:03:17 -0700, "Dball63" <dbal…@yahoo.com> wrote: >I was wondering if being hyperthyriod could be causing my >Sinusitis/Rhinitis? I’ve had sinus problems moslty rhinitis for over 5 >years now. 3 sinus infections as well. I was wondering if anyone knows >of some sort of corilation between the two diseases? I’ve ony noticed >the thyriod symptoms for about 3 months now.
I have suggested many times to people here that they have their thyroid checked because it can be a casue of sinusitis. As Steven says, sinusitis is more likely to develop in people who are hypothryoid than hyperthryoid. However, hyperthyroidism might exacerbate allergies and hence sinusitis also indirectly…..
Response:
Question:
On 28 Aug 2005 15:54:33 -0700, kathywb2…@yahoo.com wrote: >I agree. Most antibiotics are good for at least a year. It usually >tells the date to discard at the bottom of the bottle. I would add >that I would probably take the ZPak since you only took 3 earlier. You >don’t want to develop resistance. Ketek is a new antibiotic in the >same family that is mainly for respiratory infections including >sinusits. you might ask for that if it doesn’t clear up. Also >blackish mucus could be either dried blood or possbibly a fungal >infection. If so, antibiotics won’t help. You may need an antifungal. >Kathyw
Thanks to everyone for the replies. Kathy, I’m a bit confused about one statement you made. Are you saying you think I should or should not take the 2nd Zpack since the first only contained 3 tablets? Does this infer that taking just a small dose of antiboitics and not a full or longer term course will cause you to build up resistance to them?
Response:
This is just my opinion, I would ask my doctor as someone else suggested. If you don’t finish an antibiotic and there were bacteria present that were susceptible to it, then yes, that strain of bacteria can build up a resistance. Since you took Augmentin for 10 days afterward, then you may not have that problem. If it were me, and I still had any symptoms at all left, I would take the ZPak; if not, then you might want to wait and see. It is very important that you completely kill the bacteria that are present or you can get into big trouble "down the road." If you’re not better after taking the ZPak, I would be looking for a sinus specialist that looks at all angles for treating sinusitis including the fungal aspect. Kathyw
Response:
On 8/29/05 8:00 AM, in article e570e20b698f63e9b225b5665e695…@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com, "sedum41" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<sedum41@EMAIL protected> wrote: > I would warn against taking any antibiotics especially in the tetracycline > family that are past expiration as you can develop serious kidney problems > from them. I see that these were not the kind you took, just thought I > would warn other people. I am sure other antibiotics can similarily affect > the kidneys. > I think the problem is you didn’t get enough of the right kind of > antibiotics for an adequate amount of time to do anything for your > infection. You must go to your doctor and ‘fess up’ what you’ve taken so > they’ll be able to give you the right one. > Also if you don’t do irrigations I would recommend looking into doing > this. I’ve found that I don’t need as many antibiotics since I’ve been > irrigating.
There is a more serious problem in taking expired medicatons. They may have been in an overheated closet, not refrigerated, exposed to sunlight, etc etc and the chemical composition has changed. Medications are more sensitive to temperature, etc than food. On the other hand: several decades ago a hospital in UK was using penicillin for 6 months until someone realized the stuff was expired and inactive.
Response:
I would warn against taking any antibiotics especially in the tetracycline family that are past expiration as you can develop serious kidney problems from them. I see that these were not the kind you took, just thought I would warn other people. I am sure other antibiotics can similarily affect the kidneys. I think the problem is you didn’t get enough of the right kind of antibiotics for an adequate amount of time to do anything for your infection. You must go to your doctor and ‘fess up’ what you’ve taken so they’ll be able to give you the right one. Also if you don’t do irrigations I would recommend looking into doing this. I’ve found that I don’t need as many antibiotics since I’ve been irrigating.
Response:
I agree. Most antibiotics are good for at least a year. It usually tells the date to discard at the bottom of the bottle. I would add that I would probably take the ZPak since you only took 3 earlier. You don’t want to develop resistance. Ketek is a new antibiotic in the same family that is mainly for respiratory infections including sinusits. you might ask for that if it doesn’t clear up. Also blackish mucus could be either dried blood or possbibly a fungal infection. If so, antibiotics won’t help. You may need an antifungal. Kathyw
Response:
I would think that they have lost the full strength of the antibiotic after the expiration date. You should ask your pharmacist about this. When my MD gives me samples I always look at the expiration date on them, which is usually 2 years. I just bought some Tylenol and the expiration date is 2007. I saw some on the shelf that would expire 2/06. shirley
Response:
In news:9792-431180E6-610@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net, Shirley Thebaglady <thebagladyshirley…@webtv.net> typed: > I would think that they have lost the full strength of the antibiotic > after the expiration date. > You should ask your pharmacist about this. > When my MD gives me samples I always look at the expiration date on > them, which is usually 2 years. > I just bought some Tylenol and the expiration date is 2007. I saw some > on the shelf that would expire 2/06. > shirley
For what it’s worth, I read, and wish I had the quote reference, that the expiration dates for meds. are considerably short sided. The pharm. companies naturally want you to buy more, and for safety sake (theirs for lawsuits, just in case), put the expiration very short sided in this article I read. The meds, if very, very, old…like 3 to 5 years, or slightly more past expiration on the package, would possibly lose some of their initial strength, but never increase in strength. I’m almost 100% sure this was verified by the US Army by using antibiotics that were 9 or 10 years past expiration in Vietnam and they were just fine in their opinion. Don’t have the time now to do a search, but the article was found by Google and verified by reputable scientists. Storage *is* an issue. If they were left in a hot area for extended time I’m sure the degeneration would accelerate I would think you would be very safe if the expiration was in the past year. But to be safe, ask your doctor. ….Allen
Response:
Ended up with a nasty sinus, upper respiratory infection about 13 days ago. Got that ’sick’, weak, can’t think feeling. Mucus discharge coughed up or from nose has been anywhere from almost black/greenish, to yellow, to milky white to clear. Right now it’s yellowish again. This came on suddenly after a stressful three days with little or no sleep, excessive cigarette smoking (i know any smoking is ‘excessive’), capped off by a 1/2 day of hanging around in a hospital where I’d taken my mother for tests. It was about 24 to 48 hours after that visit to the hospital that I felt this kick in heavy, although I started to feel something was wrong maybe even as early as the day before I took my mom in for tests. Anyway, that’s the setup. I know it’s not wise to use antibiotics unless you really need to badly and it’s generally not considered wise to ’self-medicate’, but I was really feeling very sick and wanted to knock this beast out before it took me down if possible. Had access to a ‘Z-Pack’ – three tables that was unused – dispense date was about 2/10/2005. I used those the first three days. Sensed a little improvement, but by day 4 or 5 I was feeling sicker again. Had access to a full 10 day course of Augmentin (sp?) dispense date was about 3/15/2005. I’ve used that full 10 day supply. Two days ago I called my pdoc for an appt regarding this problem and thought they where gonna schedule me in. Instead, I just got a msg on my answering machine from the nurse that they had called in a new ‘Z-pack’ for me to my pharmacy. Right now, I don’t have the severe sick, tired, can’t think type feelings I had at first, but still definitely have a trace of those type feelings and minor headaches and still green to yellowish discharge. I’m wondering a few things: where the antibiotics I already used possibly ‘out of date’ and ineffective? should i bother using the new Z-pack my doc called in two days ago on top of what I’ve already done? what course of action would those of you unfortunately well experienced with infections suggest at this point?
Response:
Question:
I’ve been irrigating for the last few months due to some sinusitis and its improved the situation nicely. Unfortunately, I appear to have gotten some of the solution up my left eustation tube a couple of weeks ago and although it seemed to leave the ET I’m feeling some fullness in the ear now and have for the last 10 days. Its hard to describe the sensation but it feels as if there’s a little numbness on the outer ear canal as well. Hearing may be slightly impaired, but all of the symptoms are modest and sometimes seem to go away and then come back often after waking up. It feels as if there may be some fluid in the middle ear though because I can feel/hear the rattle that comes from me humming certains lower notes. I don’t know whether this is an infection or what, but does anyone have any suggestions? I’ve since stopped irrigating, naturally.
Response:
Dear Mark: I have the same problem as yours after using electronic irrigation from Dr.Grossan. Unfortunately, this pain has been haunting me for 6 months now. Kaiser hospital has put a tube in my ear to release the pressure in Feb, but it does not work at all. Now I still have ear pain on my right side when I wake up every morning, which won’t go away until I lie down for sleep. My final remedy is to visit UCLA ent doctor for diagnosis in early April. In the meantime please share any medicine or treatment to cure this. I have seen 10 ent in Los angeles but just very frustrating. If we found enough people with the same problem after irrigation, we should pose a big alert here so that no one can be at risk anymore. Will keep you in touch Laura
Response:
The "irrigator" is one great invention, but extreme care must be exercised during its use. …I think one should be cautioned never to use the procedure if the nose is plugged up. I made the mistake of holding the bulb too tightly in the nostril during an initial irrigation. I guess the induced pressure (as a result of my plugged nose) caused the pressure to extend up my eustacian tube. I got the worst ear pain I have ever experienced….Lasted for a few minutes, too. ..All irrigations should be initiated with the tip held very loosely to the nostril, first. …Once, the flow out the other nostril is noticed to be unrestricted, then a firmer contact may be made. ….Jon
Response:
Question:
> Dr Davidson is the originator of topical treatment of sinusitis as well as > many other innovations. He teaches sinus treatment.
That doesn’t change the fact that none of it works. I’ve used: every decongestant there is every anti-histimine there is every antibiotic there is every nasal steroid there is every OTC medication there is I’ve had: x-rays CT Scans Allergy shots That scope thing with the camera where they look in your sinuses I’ve had: Surgery to enlarge the drainage holes Somnoplasty to reduce the turbinates I do the irrigation thing with the water pik every day – works for an hour or two, then back to pain and misery. I can’t do this 10 times a day! Tried steaming, works for 5 minutes. Saline spray – Like throwing salt in the wound. on and on…. NOTHING WORKS. I am more miserable than when I started. What do you do when nothing works?
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:38:33 -0600, "Ron" <NoS…@SpamStopper.Org> wrote: >That doesn’t change the fact that none of it works. >I’ve used: >every decongestant there is >every anti-histimine there is >every antibiotic there is >every nasal steroid there is >every OTC medication there is >I’ve had: >x-rays >CT Scans >Allergy shots >That scope thing with the camera where they look in your sinuses >I’ve had: >Surgery to enlarge the drainage holes >Somnoplasty to reduce the turbinates >I do the irrigation thing with the water pik every day – works for an hour >or two, then back to pain and misery. I can’t do this 10 times a day! >Tried steaming, works for 5 minutes. >Saline spray – Like throwing salt in the wound. >on and on…. >NOTHING WORKS. I am more miserable than when I started.
Well unfortunately you need to restate your symptoms. But the most likely and common situation is that you are highly sensitive (even though not strictly-speaking allergic) to dust and mold. Try living in a dust and mold free environment for a while and see if your sinusitis does not start improving (warning – this may show as *increased" drainage at first). Otherwise, have your internist check for – – low thyroid (try to get the actual TSH number, not the conclusion) – abnormal blood white-cell morphology and anemia – B12 levels and check for fatigue (are you getting enough sleep?).
Response:
"Murray Grossan" <hydro…@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:BE2A481A.22D6%hydromed@adelphia.net… > Dr Davidson is the originator of topical treatment of sinusitis as well as > many other innovations. He teaches sinus treatment.
What specifically do you mean "topical treatment of sinusitis"? I guess sinus surgery could be considered "topical treatment". So could irrigation. Or are you referring to topical administration of antibiotics, for instance with Sinu-Neb?
Response:
On 2/10/05 11:31 PM, in article 1108107599.67…@news-1.nethere.net, "MS" <m…@nospam.com> wrote: > What specifically do you mean "topical treatment of sinusitis"?
Dr Davidson was the first to write about adding antibiotics to the pulsatile irrigator. He showed dramatic improvement in Cystic Fibraosis and other patients. Thanks to him, this will probably be the method of choice for delivering antibiotics to the sinuses. You place eye drops in the eye – why not do the same for the sinuses?
Response:
http://www-surgery.ucsd.edu/ent/Davidson/NDC/booklet.htm
Response:
"Bob West" <wes…@webtv.net> wrote in message news:29071-42039EDC-26@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net… > http://www-surgery.ucsd.edu/ent/Davidson/NDC/booklet.htm
I’ve done just about everything on this web page and I never get any better. In fact, I am more miserable than ever. Same ‘ol, same ‘ol stuff that doesn’t work.
Response:
On 2/4/05 9:12 PM, in article W4OdnTsxVb9byJnfRVn…@giganews.com, "Ron" <NoS…@SpamStopper.Org> wrote: > "Bob West" <wes…@webtv.net> wrote in message > news:29071-42039EDC-26@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net… >> http://www-surgery.ucsd.edu/ent/Davidson/NDC/booklet.htm > I’ve done just about everything on this web page and I never get any better. > In fact, I am more miserable than ever. Same ‘ol, same ‘ol stuff that doesn’t > work.
Dr Davidson is the originator of topical treatment of sinusitis as well as many other innovations. He teaches sinus treatment.
Response:
Question:
Great find – and thanks for sharing — Tony www.killercabs.com Arcade Game Cabinets "iJah" <iJahSpamSu…@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:3pjtt0p37li2on9fo5bd2sntjsu8s3dlcf@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:38:57 GMT, iJah <iJahSpamSu…@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > >I think this has been covered in this forum before, using sesame seed > >oil to treat dry nasal passages. But I just found this and thought I’d > >post it for those like me who are suffering from the dry/burnout nasal > >passages that go hand-in-hand with the kind of brutally cold winters > >we have here and especially if you are stuck in a building/house that > >is heated with natural gas heat with no humidification. > >I’m going out to buy some organic sesame seed oil at a health food > >store NOW. I’ll report back on how it works for me – or not. > >iJah > follow up – > i could not find any decent sesame seed oil at the markets around here > – so had to find an online site with pharmaceutical grade sesame seed > oil. i found a great source – they even have a product specifically > for use in the nose. i placed an order – still waiting for it to > arrive. > here is a link to the site:
https://www.adwizards.com/0-secure/youthing-secure/web_store.cgi?prod… ame&cart_id= – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> here is the product info on the site: > NOSE OIL > $ 12.00 > In the summer of 2001, in Sweden, north of the Artic Circle, doctors > experimented with using pharmaceutical grade sesame oil to calm > irritated and bleeding nasal membranes, instead of the usual salt > spray. Those using sesame oil thought it was about 80% more effective > in helping their dry nasal problems. > For centuries Ayurveda physicians have used sesame oil to successfully > treat and relieve symptoms of sinusitis. Air travelers have used our > NOSE OIL to protect against upper respiratory bacterial infection, so > common after even short duration air travel. A few drops in each > nostril before the flight and again every 3-4 hours during seems to > work wonderfully well. The oil is naturally anti-inflammatory, > antiviral and antibacterial for both streptococcus and staphylococcus. > Has a hint of peppermint. > 2.2 oz. bottle with dropper
Response:
It is AYR, a saline nasal gel made by B.F Ascher. They are online and have a website for more info. shirley
Response:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:55:44 +0000 (UTC), "Killer Cabs Sales Team" <sa…@killercabs.com> wrote: >Excellent – I suffer with this badly, please let us know! >Also, what is ‘Ayrd’? >How do you apply the sesame seed oil – just droplets from a little bottle?
you just add 10-15 drops of oil to some saline solution in a typical nose spray bottle – at least that’s what i’ve been doing. iJah
Response:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:38:57 GMT, iJah <iJahSpamSu…@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >I think this has been covered in this forum before, using sesame seed >oil to treat dry nasal passages. But I just found this and thought I’d >post it for those like me who are suffering from the dry/burnout nasal >passages that go hand-in-hand with the kind of brutally cold winters >we have here and especially if you are stuck in a building/house that >is heated with natural gas heat with no humidification. >I’m going out to buy some organic sesame seed oil at a health food >store NOW. I’ll report back on how it works for me – or not. >iJah
follow up – i could not find any decent sesame seed oil at the markets around here – so had to find an online site with pharmaceutical grade sesame seed oil. i found a great source – they even have a product specifically for use in the nose. i placed an order – still waiting for it to arrive. here is a link to the site: https://www.adwizards.com/0-secure/youthing-secure/web_store.cgi?prod… here is the product info on the site: NOSE OIL $ 12.00 In the summer of 2001, in Sweden, north of the Artic Circle, doctors experimented with using pharmaceutical grade sesame oil to calm irritated and bleeding nasal membranes, instead of the usual salt spray. Those using sesame oil thought it was about 80% more effective in helping their dry nasal problems. For centuries Ayurveda physicians have used sesame oil to successfully treat and relieve symptoms of sinusitis. Air travelers have used our NOSE OIL to protect against upper respiratory bacterial infection, so common after even short duration air travel. A few drops in each nostril before the flight and again every 3-4 hours during seems to work wonderfully well. The oil is naturally anti-inflammatory, antiviral and antibacterial for both streptococcus and staphylococcus. Has a hint of peppermint. 2.2 oz. bottle with dropper
Response:
Excellent – I suffer with this badly, please let us know! Also, what is ‘Ayrd’? How do you apply the sesame seed oil – just droplets from a little bottle? — Tony "iJah" <iJahSpamSu…@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:ad6mt0tgj54igfd3vf5a81rqhul0vd942p@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I think this has been covered in this forum before, using sesame seed > oil to treat dry nasal passages. But I just found this and thought I’d > post it for those like me who are suffering from the dry/burnout nasal > passages that go hand-in-hand with the kind of brutally cold winters > we have here and especially if you are stuck in a building/house that > is heated with natural gas heat with no humidification. > I’m going out to buy some organic sesame seed oil at a health food > store NOW. I’ll report back on how it works for me – or not. > iJah > ———- > from the site: http://www.mercola.com/2002/jan/23/nasal_passages.htm > During the winter in cold climates the air is usually quite dry, and > this results in many people having dry nasal passages leading to > itching, burning, and mucus crusts forming. > These complaints increase when the humidity is low in the winter > months from December to May in the northern part of the world and > during long journeys by airplane. > The traditional medical treatment is a spray of isotonic sodium > chloride, or saline, solution. A new study compared saline with sesame > oil. > Swedish researchers used the sesame oil spray with great benefits on > nasal dryness, stuffiness and crusts apparent within 4 days. After 14 > days of treatment 80% of the subjects were improved. The sesame oil > was far superior to the saline spray which only worked in 30% of the > subjects. > Archives of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery November 2001 > 127:1353-1356 > ————————————————————————– —— > Dr. Mercola’s Comment: > The sesame oil in this study was pharmaceutical grade and its bottle > had a dosage pump. As long as you are not allergic to sesame it is > likely that a high quality organic sesame oil would also work. > It might not hurt to wipe a small drop of sesame oil inside the nose, > but it probably needs to get higher up, and spraying with something > other than a dosage pump could result in getting oil into your lungs. > However, even though it would be wise to avoid getting the sesame oil > in your lungs, the authors showed that the ciliary function of the > lungs were not changed after exposure to the sesame oil and it is > likely the cilia in the lining of the lung would be able to remove the > excess oil. > If you are allergic to sesame oil you should likely avoid this > approach, however, in the study those allergic to sesame seemed to > tolerate the small doses used, which is likely related to the fact > that a pure pharmaceutical grade sesame oil was used which was free of > antigenic proteins. > It is possible that the sesame oil works but it seems to inhibit the > production locally of arachidonic acid which is a fat that lead to the > formation of many of the proinflammatory prostaglandins. > ————————————————————————– ——
Response:
That Ayrd has helped me with my dry nasal passages. shirley
Response:
My ENT recommended sesame oil…..Unfortunately, I was allergic to it. You can get pharmaceutical grade online. Put pharamaceutical grade sesame oil into google.
Response:
The problem with most stuff at health food stores is that it all moves slow. That means the product can likely be old. The could have a bottle of oil sitting on the shelf for years. Most of it doesn’t have batch dates or expire dates. But yeah, if it works let us know. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -iJah wrote: > I think this has been covered in this forum before, using sesame seed > oil to treat dry nasal passages. But I just found this and thought I’d > post it for those like me who are suffering from the dry/burnout nasal > passages that go hand-in-hand with the kind of brutally cold winters > we have here and especially if you are stuck in a building/house that > is heated with natural gas heat with no humidification. > I’m going out to buy some organic sesame seed oil at a health food > store NOW. I’ll report back on how it works for me – or not. > iJah > ———- > from the site: http://www.mercola.com/2002/jan/23/nasal_passages.htm > During the winter in cold climates the air is usually quite dry, and > this results in many people having dry nasal passages leading to > itching, burning, and mucus crusts forming. > These complaints increase when the humidity is low in the winter > months from December to May in the northern part of the world and > during long journeys by airplane. > The traditional medical treatment is a spray of isotonic sodium > chloride, or saline, solution. A new study compared saline with sesame > oil. > Swedish researchers used the sesame oil spray with great benefits on > nasal dryness, stuffiness and crusts apparent within 4 days. After 14 > days of treatment 80% of the subjects were improved. The sesame oil > was far superior to the saline spray which only worked in 30% of the > subjects. > Archives of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery November 2001 > 127:1353-1356 > ————————————————————————— —– > Dr. Mercola’s Comment: > The sesame oil in this study was pharmaceutical grade and its bottle > had a dosage pump. As long as you are not allergic to sesame it is > likely that a high quality organic sesame oil would also work. > It might not hurt to wipe a small drop of sesame oil inside the nose, > but it probably needs to get higher up, and spraying with something > other than a dosage pump could result in getting oil into your lungs. > However, even though it would be wise to avoid getting the sesame oil > in your lungs, the authors showed that the ciliary function of the > lungs were not changed after exposure to the sesame oil and it is > likely the cilia in the lining of the lung would be able to remove the > excess oil. > If you are allergic to sesame oil you should likely avoid this > approach, however, in the study those allergic to sesame seemed to > tolerate the small doses used, which is likely related to the fact > that a pure pharmaceutical grade sesame oil was used which was free of > antigenic proteins. > It is possible that the sesame oil works but it seems to inhibit the > production locally of arachidonic acid which is a fat that lead to the > formation of many of the proinflammatory prostaglandins. > ————————————————————————— —–
Response:
I think this has been covered in this forum before, using sesame seed oil to treat dry nasal passages. But I just found this and thought I’d post it for those like me who are suffering from the dry/burnout nasal passages that go hand-in-hand with the kind of brutally cold winters we have here and especially if you are stuck in a building/house that is heated with natural gas heat with no humidification. I’m going out to buy some organic sesame seed oil at a health food store NOW. I’ll report back on how it works for me – or not. iJah ———- from the site: http://www.mercola.com/2002/jan/23/nasal_passages.htm During the winter in cold climates the air is usually quite dry, and this results in many people having dry nasal passages leading to itching, burning, and mucus crusts forming. These complaints increase when the humidity is low in the winter months from December to May in the northern part of the world and during long journeys by airplane. The traditional medical treatment is a spray of isotonic sodium chloride, or saline, solution. A new study compared saline with sesame oil. Swedish researchers used the sesame oil spray with great benefits on nasal dryness, stuffiness and crusts apparent within 4 days. After 14 days of treatment 80% of the subjects were improved. The sesame oil was far superior to the saline spray which only worked in 30% of the subjects. Archives of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery November 2001 127:1353-1356 ————————————————————————— —– Dr. Mercola’s Comment: The sesame oil in this study was pharmaceutical grade and its bottle had a dosage pump. As long as you are not allergic to sesame it is likely that a high quality organic sesame oil would also work. It might not hurt to wipe a small drop of sesame oil inside the nose, but it probably needs to get higher up, and spraying with something other than a dosage pump could result in getting oil into your lungs. However, even though it would be wise to avoid getting the sesame oil in your lungs, the authors showed that the ciliary function of the lungs were not changed after exposure to the sesame oil and it is likely the cilia in the lining of the lung would be able to remove the excess oil. If you are allergic to sesame oil you should likely avoid this approach, however, in the study those allergic to sesame seemed to tolerate the small doses used, which is likely related to the fact that a pure pharmaceutical grade sesame oil was used which was free of antigenic proteins. It is possible that the sesame oil works but it seems to inhibit the production locally of arachidonic acid which is a fat that lead to the formation of many of the proinflammatory prostaglandins. ————————————————————————— —–
Response:
Question:
At the moment sinuses are really painful, swollen, I have a clicking noise in my nose, and I am sure that I can taste & smell metal? I want a home remedy that will help? Who knows how to do that nasal flushing thing? I don’t want to try it without guidance!! — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.799 / Virus Database: 543 – Release Date: 11/19/2004
Response:
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 21:21:20 GMT, "april perrin" <aprilper…@ntlworld.com> wrote: >At the moment sinuses are really painful, swollen, I have a clicking noise in my nose, and I am sure that I can taste & smell metal? >I want a home remedy that will help? Who knows how to do that nasal flushing thing? > I don’t want to try it without guidance!!
See http://www.sinusitisfaq.org/ Longer term, you are going to have to eliminate whatever is causing your sinusitis – quite possibly dust or mold if your symptoms are worse in the winter.
Response:
"april perrin" <aprilper…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message <news:kd6qd.204$Yc4.140@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>… > At the moment sinuses are really painful, swollen, I have a clicking > noise in my nose, and I am sure that I can taste & smell metal? > I want a home remedy that will help? Who knows how to do that nasal > flushing thing? I don’t want to try it without guidance!! > — > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.799 / Virus Database: 543 – Release Date: 11/19/2004 > —
I’m not a medical expert so I can’t say if nasal rinse will work in your case. I had a problem with post-nasal drip for years. The thickening of mucous left an unpleasant taste in my mouth. Daily nasal rinse works brilliantly for me. You’d be amazed at how much crap gets stuck in the nasal cavities. Earlier I was using the neti pot system which was fine but cumbersome to use. Now I use the kit by nasopure. Just pour water and saline solution in the ergonomically-designed bottle, close cap and shake. It’s very easy to use. www.nasopure.com I had a few questions and found Dr. Hana Solomon at nasopure to be very helpful. You can also buy the saline packets from neilmed.com (it’s cheaper). But the bottle from nasopure is the best. Email me if you have any questions. Hope that helps.
Response:
Question:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"augustwestern" <augustwest…@zerospam.com> wrote: >"Charles" <trai…@adelphia.net> wrote in message >news:dea131fe.0410060719.80bcd01@posting.google.com… >> Hello all, >> I’ve been using the Grossan irrigator for about one week with breathe >> eze. >> One side (sinus) seems to respond well, now I can at least get some >> sleep. >> The other side however, is completely "stuffed". It seems when I use >> the >> device the flow simply shunts straight to my other nostril. >> I have a little more pressure on the stuffed side sinus, re: headache. >> Which I’ve had forever, treated with ibuprofin >> I have read on this group that a number of users retain the solution >> for a period of time often discharging at an inopportune moment. I >> have none of this. >> I blow my nose lightly after and that’s it. This implies, that maybe >> the solution is not even getting to the sinus cavity. >> I’m using the prescribed amount of fluid per side three times per day, >> with the pressure a little higher than recommended. Still to no >> effect. >> Anyone with any insights as to how I can loosen this stuff and get a >> full flush? >> Thank for any input, >> Charles >Unfortunately with sinusitis, one week of irrigation is just getting >started. For me – when I began irrigating with warm water my worst sinus >swelling on the totally blocked left side would never improve or clear. It >was only after I switched to room temperature water (cooler than my body) >that the irrigation slowly began to shrink the sinus that was totally >blocked. This process took 2 months at 2-3 irrigations daily. Eventually >using Flonase helped ease the swelling somewhat but I still have to irrigate >daily or the swelling comes right back and my nose blocks back up. Be >patient and keep irrigating.
Hello, "augustwestern" , I feel you are running out of times, because it sounds as if you have large polyps on one side. If you have polyps, get them out before they get any larger, because they willnot stop growning – no, not ever, until they start hanging out of your nose . . . You are appeasing the symptoms and doing nothing at all about the cause. I feel you are a ticking time-bomb of eventual, real misery and medical need. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/benjamin.htm MustRead! http://WWW.PAMINIFARM.COM "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6 ___________________________________________________________________________ ____ Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com – Accounts Starting At $6.95 – http://www.uncensored-news.com <><><><><><><> The Worlds Uncensored News Source <><><><><><><><>
Response:
"Charles" <trai…@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:dea131fe.0410060719.80bcd01@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello all, > I’ve been using the Grossan irrigator for about one week with breathe > eze. > One side (sinus) seems to respond well, now I can at least get some > sleep. > The other side however, is completely "stuffed". It seems when I use > the > device the flow simply shunts straight to my other nostril. > I have a little more pressure on the stuffed side sinus, re: headache. > Which I’ve had forever, treated with ibuprofin > I have read on this group that a number of users retain the solution > for a period of time often discharging at an inopportune moment. I > have none of this. > I blow my nose lightly after and that’s it. This implies, that maybe > the solution is not even getting to the sinus cavity. > I’m using the prescribed amount of fluid per side three times per day, > with the pressure a little higher than recommended. Still to no > effect. > Anyone with any insights as to how I can loosen this stuff and get a > full flush? > Thank for any input, > Charles
Unfortunately with sinusitis, one week of irrigation is just getting started. For me – when I began irrigating with warm water my worst sinus swelling on the totally blocked left side would never improve or clear. It was only after I switched to room temperature water (cooler than my body) that the irrigation slowly began to shrink the sinus that was totally blocked. This process took 2 months at 2-3 irrigations daily. Eventually using Flonase helped ease the swelling somewhat but I still have to irrigate daily or the swelling comes right back and my nose blocks back up. Be patient and keep irrigating.
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Charles wrote: > Hello all, > I’ve been using the Grossan irrigator for about one week with breathe > eze. > One side (sinus) seems to respond well, now I can at least get some > sleep. > The other side however, is completely "stuffed". It seems when I use > the > device the flow simply shunts straight to my other nostril. > I have a little more pressure on the stuffed side sinus, re: headache. > Which I’ve had forever, treated with ibuprofin > I have read on this group that a number of users retain the solution > for a period of time often discharging at an inopportune moment. I > have none of this. > I blow my nose lightly after and that’s it. This implies, that maybe > the solution is not even getting to the sinus cavity. > I’m using the prescribed amount of fluid per side three times per day, > with the pressure a little higher than recommended. Still to no > effect. > Anyone with any insights as to how I can loosen this stuff and get a > full flush?
If one side of your head is completely stuffed, but the other side is not, that could be a sinus problem that requires medical attention. See a physician. — Steven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlit…@earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
Response:
Hello all, I’ve been using the Grossan irrigator for about one week with breathe eze. One side (sinus) seems to respond well, now I can at least get some sleep. The other side however, is completely "stuffed". It seems when I use the device the flow simply shunts straight to my other nostril. I have a little more pressure on the stuffed side sinus, re: headache. Which I’ve had forever, treated with ibuprofin I have read on this group that a number of users retain the solution for a period of time often discharging at an inopportune moment. I have none of this. I blow my nose lightly after and that’s it. This implies, that maybe the solution is not even getting to the sinus cavity. I’m using the prescribed amount of fluid per side three times per day, with the pressure a little higher than recommended. Still to no effect. Anyone with any insights as to how I can loosen this stuff and get a full flush? Thank for any input, Charles
Response:
Question:
I am thinking of trying the hydrogen peroxide solution for irrigation – anyone know where I can buy it over the counter in the UK? I’ve done a search of this group to find out but to no avail! My Background: I ‘ve had continuously bad sinuses for around 5 years (now in late 20s), tried seeing an ENT and surgery , saline irrigation etc- none helped. symptoms : foggy head, pressure below eyes, bad breathe very little mucus drainage unless I exercise hard- and thats only temporary relief. I don’t really get ’bouts’ of sinusitis- its just always there. Thanks
Response:
Iam Luck wrote: > I am thinking of trying the hydrogen peroxide solution for irrigation > – anyone know where I can buy it over the counter in the UK? I’ve done > a search of this group to find out but to no avail!
Costco, Walgreens, and/or any neighborhood pharmacy should have it. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–
Response:
> Iam Luck wrote: >> I am thinking of trying the hydrogen peroxide solution for irrigation >> – anyone know where I can buy it over the counter in the UK? I’ve done >> a search of this group to find out but to no avail!
Any local chemist should have it in stock, or try your nearest Boots.
Response:
Question:
> we remove the tonsils for the same reason we remove a diseased eye – its > infected, we can’t cure it, it doesn’t work any more, it is spreading disease > throughout the body.
An eye is not made or intended to catch and deal with germs. So, it makes sense to me that a severely infected eye could require removal. Tonsils, however, are intended to catch germs and in some respects become infected. It’s my opinion, therefore, that tonsils should be removed as an absolute last resort to dealing with infected tonsils. In my case, I believe that was not the case. Having the "extra" line of defense would be quite helpful in my current plight. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–
Response:
"Steven D. Litvintchouk" <sdlit…@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message <news:19OSc.14185$nx2.4794@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>… > ENTconsult wrote: > > we remove the tonsils for the same reason we remove a diseased eye – its > > infected, we can’t cure it, it doesn’t work any more, it is spreading disease > > throughout the body.
If this is the case then it is good medicine. However, tonsils have been removed as "preventive" surgeries. Many times conservative treatments (eg irrigating the tonsiles etc) are not being tried first. Again it is more benificial for the surgeons to just "remove" the symptoms, rather than to investigte the cause of the illness. After all we have the insurance companies to pay for the cost, so why not make the most out of it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m willing to bet that in otherwise healthy adults, tonsillitis is much > easier to cure without surgery than sinusitis is. > After all, irrigating the tonsils is real easy. :-)
Response:
ENTconsult wrote: > we remove the tonsils for the same reason we remove a diseased eye – its > infected, we can’t cure it, it doesn’t work any more, it is spreading disease > throughout the body.
I’m willing to bet that in otherwise healthy adults, tonsillitis is much easier to cure without surgery than sinusitis is. After all, irrigating the tonsils is real easy. :-) — Steven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlit…@earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Pamdomania" <7957…@127.0.0.1:7501> wrote: >Flash <Fl…@Null.Null.Net> wrote: >>The talk regarding adenoids in another thread got >>me to thinking about tonsils. I had my tonsils taken >>out when I was around 8 years old. The doctor took >>them because they were doing my older sister and they >>figured they would do me, too! ( That’s how it was back >>"in the day" ). I don’t recall having any real issues >>with my tonsils; no more than a normal kid, from >>what I recall. >>Anyway, I don’t really understand why removing the >>tonsils is even warranted for anything short of >>a cancerous tonsil. It seems to me that if you remove >>the tonsils, you’re forcing the body to move it’s >>first line of defense back into more critical areas. >>So, I wonder how many people who had their tonsils >>taken out now suffer with sinus issues — and maybe would >>not have, had there tonsils been left to do their >>job. >>—–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– >>http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >>—–== Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—– >Hello, >No, if i am any example. Lung trouble would be suspect, however. It is fungus >amongus – i swear . . . >I have known for many, many years it was fungus, now at last >the Mayo Clinic is admitting it. Now here is the catch: i >believe it is now being recognized or "admitted", because the >new, "harmless", fungus-compound, bug spray is now in everyone’s >sinuses and causing big-time trouble. Greed-stricken Corporate Society strikes >again – Remember the Dalkon Shield, DDT, Tires >etc. After the Dalkon Shield was found to destroy lives and >kill us American women, then banned, it was surreptitiously >sold to the 3rd-world with Govt. help and intervention, same with DDT to >Mexico, then we imported their food, and ate it. >The Arab world new about, and banned, the Firestone tires >long before we new about it. One of the "Hard Tops"; found >to collapse and cause brain injury, was banned, yet never removed from the >road, so destroyed my young daughter’s and >a passenger’s lives, in the form of a purchase of a USED CAR; >now this bug spray – bet i am the first to tell you about it . . . >+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + >MustRead! http://WWW.PAMINIFARM.COM >"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6 >__________________________________________________________________________ _____ >Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com – Accounts Starting At $6.95 – http://www.uncensored-news.com > <><><><><><><> The Worlds Uncensored News Source <><><><><><><><>
Uh – sorry – knew and knew, not new . . . + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + MustRead! http://WWW.PAMINIFARM.COM "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6 ___________________________________________________________________________ ____ Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com – Accounts Starting At $6.95 – http://www.uncensored-news.com <><><><><><><> The Worlds Uncensored News Source <><><><><><><><>
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Flash <Fl…@Null.Null.Net> wrote: >The talk regarding adenoids in another thread got >me to thinking about tonsils. I had my tonsils taken >out when I was around 8 years old. The doctor took >them because they were doing my older sister and they >figured they would do me, too! ( That’s how it was back >"in the day" ). I don’t recall having any real issues >with my tonsils; no more than a normal kid, from >what I recall. >Anyway, I don’t really understand why removing the >tonsils is even warranted for anything short of >a cancerous tonsil. It seems to me that if you remove >the tonsils, you’re forcing the body to move it’s >first line of defense back into more critical areas. >So, I wonder how many people who had their tonsils >taken out now suffer with sinus issues — and maybe would >not have, had there tonsils been left to do their >job. >—–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– >http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >—–== Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–
Hello, No, if i am any example. Lung trouble would be suspect, however. It is fungus amongus – i swear . . . I have known for many, many years it was fungus, now at last the Mayo Clinic is admitting it. Now here is the catch: i believe it is now being recognized or "admitted", because the new, "harmless", fungus-compound, bug spray is now in everyone’s sinuses and causing big-time trouble. Greed-stricken Corporate Society strikes again – Remember the Dalkon Shield, DDT, Tires etc. After the Dalkon Shield was found to destroy lives and kill us American women, then banned, it was surreptitiously sold to the 3rd-world with Govt. help and intervention, same with DDT to Mexico, then we imported their food, and ate it. The Arab world new about, and banned, the Firestone tires long before we new about it. One of the "Hard Tops"; found to collapse and cause brain injury, was banned, yet never removed from the road, so destroyed my young daughter’s and a passenger’s lives, in the form of a purchase of a USED CAR; now this bug spray – bet i am the first to tell you about it . . . + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + MustRead! http://WWW.PAMINIFARM.COM "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6 ___________________________________________________________________________ ____ Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com – Accounts Starting At $6.95 – http://www.uncensored-news.com <><><><><><><> The Worlds Uncensored News Source <><><><><><><><>
Response:
Anyway, I don’t really understand why removing the tonsils is even warranted for anything short of a cancerous tonsil. It seems to me that if you remove the tonsils, you’re forcing the body to move it’s first line of defense back into more critical areas. we remove the tonsils for the same reason we remove a diseased eye – its infected, we can’t cure it, it doesn’t work any more, it is spreading disease throughout the body. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
Response:
The talk regarding adenoids in another thread got me to thinking about tonsils. I had my tonsils taken out when I was around 8 years old. The doctor took them because they were doing my older sister and they figured they would do me, too! ( That’s how it was back "in the day" ). I don’t recall having any real issues with my tonsils; no more than a normal kid, from what I recall. Anyway, I don’t really understand why removing the tonsils is even warranted for anything short of a cancerous tonsil. It seems to me that if you remove the tonsils, you’re forcing the body to move it’s first line of defense back into more critical areas. So, I wonder how many people who had their tonsils taken out now suffer with sinus issues — and maybe would not have, had there tonsils been left to do their job. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 08:54:41 -0700, Flash <Fl…@Null.Null.Net> wrote: >The talk regarding adenoids in another thread got >me to thinking about tonsils. I had my tonsils taken >out when I was around 8 years old. The doctor took >them because they were doing my older sister and they >figured they would do me, too! ( That’s how it was back >"in the day" ). I don’t recall having any real issues >with my tonsils; no more than a normal kid, from >what I recall. >Anyway, I don’t really understand why removing the >tonsils is even warranted for anything short of >a cancerous tonsil. It seems to me that if you remove >the tonsils, you’re forcing the body to move it’s >first line of defense back into more critical areas. >So, I wonder how many people who had their tonsils >taken out now suffer with sinus issues — and maybe would >not have, had there tonsils been left to do their >job.
It’s a fairly obvious thing to think of, but they have found no correlation between the presence/absence of tonsils and developement of sinusitis.
Response:
Previous page