Filed under: Sinusitis
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Being new to this..What is the best way to determine Sinus Infection.Are MRI ever used? In the Sinus Cat Scan of the Facial area only? Thanks
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:35:53 -0500, "Richard Trembley" <rtrembl…@comcast.net> wrote: >Being new to this..What is the best way to determine Sinus Infection.Are MRI >ever used? In the Sinus Cat Scan of the Facial area only? Thanks
The CAT scan is generally used pretty universally for the sinuses. It shows all sinuses. You might use an MRI in the specail case where you suspect cancer or fungal sinusitis, but otherwise it is inferior. http://adam.about.com/reports/000062_5.htm "Magnetic Resonance Imaging. MRI is not as effective as CT in defining the paranasal sinsus anatomy and therefore is not typically used to image the sinuses for suspected sinusitis. MRI is also more expensive than CT. However, it can help rule out fungal sinusitis and may help differentiate between inflammatory disease, malignant tumors, and complications within the skull."
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The CT scan is the way to go. Make sure they do a full sinus CT scan and not a ‘head CT’ or a ‘limited sinus CT’. One thing to do is to get any sinus CTs you have on a CD for your records. Most places do this for free and include a viewer with the CT scans so you can take it to another doctor if you get a second opinion. Most ENT doctors will want to look at the actual CT scans not the written radiology report. For me, all I had to do was call up the radiology department 2 or 3 days before pickup, request the CT scans on CD, and fill out and sign a form when I picked the CD up.
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On 12/26/05 4:53 PM, in article 20208-43B09099-…@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net, "Johnny1…@webtv.net" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<Johnny1…@webtv.net> wrote: > rtrembl…@comcast.net (Richard
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It’s a nice soap opera. Don’t ya just wanna kick her in the ass for her post? or better yet, throw dirty air in her face? That’ll do it!
nunt uh, i dun wanna. some people do a way better job’ah fuckin’ themselves than lil ole me evah could. whatever happened to muh answer? SATURDAY’S LONG GONE ! (or was that another thread.) ~tanya – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Elliott remove eee to eeemail http://home.earthlink.net/~ejk2/
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stone age chiseled out: whatever happened to muh answer? What’s the question?
oops it WAS another thread. SATURDAY’S LONG GONE !
there was last saturday in between tho.. WAHHHHH ! No, it’ll be here in only 5 days… (or was that another thread.) Ya mean, the one you’re hangin’ on by?
nah, that’d be a rope. by which i usually hang muhself. <samooooooooooooch ~tanya 
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the stone age chiseled out: Glad you had such a nice and anxiety free trip… It’s been that way for about a year now. We’re out to restaraunts and social functions and shopping (lots of shopping 
and….
Didn’t know that you were out and about so much, Elliott! Glad to hear that you are doing so well! And….. no more Klonopin or Xanax?? Wow! The art museum sounds very nice. I love visiting them… MikeH
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are you saying that David won’t let you post anymore???
melody, i just spoke with David. He has created an account to post here and was looking forward to introducing himself. you’ve pre-empted His introduction. He won’t be posting here now with the same clean slate as He had wished, He’s now guilty by association. thank you for making this decision for him…. MOM ! ( <—-those are MY words, he would never be so crass, as He has couth. i have selective couth. i DO hope He will post, in lieu of your lack of consideration.) David wanted the opportunity to make His own choices, as well as the inherent respect involved in such. Tell david we really miss him
Dave said "take better aim next time, below the belt is tanya’s territory." and have been wondering who his best friends were you had dinner with…
do you wanna make sure they cleaned their plates before dessert, also, mommy? you, melody, KNOW Dave is quite reserved and requires a comfort zone and most of all, a very private man. yes, you introduced us, and for that brief moment of consideration of Dave’s happiness, Dave thanks you, i thank you. "brief" is the operative word. it was closely followed by airing of very personal knowledge you had of Dave (your BEST friend) to me, (a total stranger), as well as your issuance of a "warning" regarding meeting me (again, a total stranger) to Dave (who is perfectly capable of making His own decisions.) your behavior is chock full’ah confirmation. i’m relating my own, as well as Dave’s feelings at his request. (are you surmising i wouldn’t LET Dave speak for himself. habits ARE hard to break, aren’t they, melody.) i can assure you that i submit to his every whim, if even by proxy. The same david who doesnt want me calling him at home anymore.
or at work, yes… one in tha same. the same david I named my son after,
that’d be Him ! the same david you claim I mother…
David can even burp himself now ! <gasp Did you ever think …. (well, that’s rhetorical in itself… nebbermind <smile) ~tanya
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – the stone age chiseled out: Gees ayches ayes jays kays …… are you people losing it. I don’t think the ‘we’ people ever had it – or at least it has been cured by pennicylyn. I think LOL cognition therapy What’s that? OH, coGNITIVE therapy….. I recommend the first chapter or so of the book, "Feeling Good, the New Mood Therapy" by David Burns, M.D. Here are some notes on the cognitive distortions, based on the Burns book: Emotions have the ability to distort our vision of reality. Hence the following common expressions: He sees the world through rose colored glasses. He was blinded by his rage. She always expects the worst. At such times we are making what have been called "cognitive distortions" since our thoughts, or our cognitions, are being clouded by our feelings. When this happens we are thrown off balance from reality. Consider these examples: Emotional reasoning. This is when we allow our emotions to lead us to faulty conclusions. An example of this is someone who believes that because he feels like a failure, he is a failure. Emotional imprisonment. This is where we become a prisoner to our feelings. We feel trapped or we feel locked into a certain course of action, even when our better judgment and all the evidence is against it. Mental coloring or filtering. We may either see everything in an overly positive or overly negative light. We may for example, see any sign of trouble as "a disaster." Or we might allow our emotions to trick us into converting a positive into a negative. An example of this would be someone who feels so bad about herself that she thinks people who compliment her are lying out of pity. Over-generalization. This is where we mistakenly think that because something happened before, it "always" happens. This is similar to black and white thinking. High EQ people refrain from making themselves feel worse by their distorted "self-talk." Some examples of over generalizing negative self-talk are: I always screw up. I am always forgetting things. . I always get lost. . I will never be happy. My partner is always late. Awareness of these common distortions may help remind us to try to remain realistic, to try to see in a more positive or at least neutral perspective, as opposed to seeing things based on largely negative perceptions, which often are actually distortions resulting from many years of negative social influences influences in our families or society. "Man is not troubled by events, but what man tells himself about those events." (Aristotle or someone) Ten Common Cognitive Distortions: 1. All or nothing thinking. Black or white. 2. Overgeneralization. Always/never… 3. Mental Filter. Dwell on negative aspect. Filters out the positive 4. Disqualify the positive. Changing + into – 5. Jump to conclusions: a)mind reading b)fortune telling 6. Magnification/minimization (Catastrophizing) 7. Emotional reasoning. I feel like x therefore I am x. 8. Should statements. 9. Labeling. 10. Personalization. Isn’t this fun? Is our children learning? (asked Dubya – the mentally challenged leader of the free world — Elliott remove eee to eeemail http://home.earthlink.net/~ejk2/ And then there is reality The reality is there are only a few set of rules for a better life. One is to understand your past, Two is not make the same mistakes from that past or past dysfunctional family Three is to stay consistent to do the right thing. Anxiety does tend to make one focus on his or her energy level rather then thinking things thru., and thus reactions and adrenlin response tend to overcompensate for rational thought.Thus, all thecognition books will come down to the things that are left: unsaid, redoing your own self image, slowing down your breathing, finding a good therapist, getting clean air, using specific set of lifestyle choices, and finding a good therapist, and having love in your life. if possible. . You really dont’ need too many other rules.
I rest my case. P. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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"Man is not troubled by events, but what man tells himself about those events." (Aristotle or someone)
*Epictetus*. P. (P is for pedant) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – stone age chiseled out: Gees ayches ayes jays kays …… are you people losing it. I don’t think the ‘we’ people ever had it – or at least it has been cured by pennicylyn. I think LOL cognition therapy What’s that? OH, coGNITIVE therapy….. I recommend the first chapter or so of the book, "Feeling Good, the New Mood Therapy" by David Burns, M.D. Here are some notes on the cognitive distortions, based on the Burns book: Emotions have the ability to distort our vision of reality. Hence the following common expressions: He sees the world through rose colored glasses. He was blinded by his rage. She always expects the worst. At such times we are making what have been called "cognitive distortions" since our thoughts, or our cognitions, are being clouded by our feelings. When this happens we are thrown off balance from reality. Consider these examples: Emotional reasoning. This is when we allow our emotions to lead us to faulty conclusions. An example of this is someone who believes that because he feels like a failure, he is a failure. Emotional imprisonment. This is where we become a prisoner to our feelings. We feel trapped or we feel locked into a certain course of action, even when our better judgment and all the evidence is against it. Mental coloring or filtering. We may either see everything in an overly positive or overly negative light. We may for example, see any sign of trouble as "a disaster." Or we might allow our emotions to trick us into converting a positive into a negative. An example of this would be someone who feels so bad about herself that she thinks people who compliment her are lying out of pity. Over-generalization. This is where we mistakenly think that because something happened before, it "always" happens. This is similar to black and white thinking. High EQ people refrain from making themselves feel worse by their distorted "self-talk." Some examples of over generalizing negative self-talk are: I always screw up. I am always forgetting things. . I always get lost. . I will never be happy. My partner is always late. Awareness of these common distortions may help remind us to try to remain realistic, to try to see in a more positive or at least neutral perspective, as opposed to seeing things based on largely negative perceptions, which often are actually distortions resulting from many years of negative social influences influences in our families or society. "Man is not troubled by events, but what man tells himself about those events." (Aristotle or someone) Ten Common Cognitive Distortions: 1. All or nothing thinking. Black or white. 2. Overgeneralization. Always/never… 3. Mental Filter. Dwell on negative aspect. Filters out the positive 4. Disqualify the positive. Changing + into – 5. Jump to conclusions: a)mind reading b)fortune telling 6. Magnification/minimization (Catastrophizing) 7. Emotional reasoning. I feel like x therefore I am x. 8. Should statements. 9. Labeling. 10. Personalization. Isn’t this fun? Is our children learning? (asked Dubya – the mentally challenged leader of the free world
It may be commendable on some level, Young Master Elliott, but I predict that you won’t make a convert to rational living out of Stevie. P. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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no longer will i participate in the thread/s of moderation/Bob K. not MY choice, albeit a sensible one, but one of those with now with proprietary rights of all posts, emails, etc., litigiously. fun? now thas’ah whut muh dreams’re made of. THAT is my ‘back ta bidness as usual’ agenda. …and’ah helpin’ hand whenever i’m deemed worthy. ta DAH ! ~t
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are you saying that David won’t let you post anymore??? Tell david we really miss him and have been wondering who his best friends were you had dinner with….the same david who doesnt want me calling him at home anymore. the same david I named my son after,the same david you claim I mother…
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – no longer will i participate in the thread/s of moderation/Bob K. not MY choice, albeit a sensible one, but one of those with now with proprietary rights of all posts, emails, etc., litigiously. fun? now thas’ah whut muh dreams’re made of. THAT is my ‘back ta bidness as usual’ agenda. …and’ah helpin’ hand whenever i’m deemed worthy. ta DAH ! ~t
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HUH????
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – are you saying that David won’t let you post anymore??? Tell david we really miss him and have been wondering who his best friends were you had dinner with….the same david who doesnt want me calling him at home anymore. the same david I named my son after,the same david you claim I mother… no longer will i participate in the thread/s of moderation/Bob K. not MY choice, albeit a sensible one, but one of those with now with proprietary rights of all posts, emails, etc., litigiously. fun? now thas’ah whut muh dreams’re made of. THAT is my ‘back ta bidness as usual’ agenda. …and’ah helpin’ hand whenever i’m deemed worthy. ta DAH ! ~t
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are you saying that David won’t let you post anymore??? Tell david we really miss him and have been wondering who his best friends were you had dinner with….the same david who doesnt want me calling him at home anymore. the same david I named my son after,the same david you claim I mother…
I clearly remember a time when I was able to sort of *understand* some of the posts here… Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – no longer will i participate in the thread/s of moderation/Bob K. not MY choice, albeit a sensible one, but one of those with now with proprietary rights of all posts, emails, etc., litigiously. fun? now thas’ah whut muh dreams’re made of. THAT is my ‘back ta bidness as usual’ agenda. …and’ah helpin’ hand whenever i’m deemed worthy. ta DAH ! ~t
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – are you saying that David won’t let you post anymore??? Tell david we really miss him and have been wondering who his best friends were you had dinner with….the same david who doesnt want me calling him at home anymore. the same david I named my son after,the same david you claim I mother… I clearly remember a time when I was able to sort of *understand* some of the posts here… Philip no longer will i participate in the thread/s of moderation/Bob K. not MY choice, albeit a sensible one, but one of those with now with proprietary rights of all posts, emails, etc., litigiously. fun? now thas’ah whut muh dreams’re made of. THAT is my ‘back ta bidness as usual’ agenda. …and’ah helpin’ hand whenever i’m deemed worthy. ta DAH ! ~Philip you mean you dont understand this? Gees are you people losing it. I think more cognition therapy is in order then come back here and tell everyone else what is wrong with them. I think the memory will kick in and your off to the races again. right? Isn’t this fun?
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the stone age chiseled out: I don’t think the ‘we’ people ever had it – or at least it has been cured by pennicylyn.
Hey, that’s what I’m taking right now "Apo-Pen VK" (generic penicillin)… I I’m not in good shape right now, sinusitis & pharyngitis & otitis in left ear… I also take Ciprodex, Benzydamine and of course Tylenol… Add the Imipramine & Klonopin and I’m a walking drugstore… But, even if I am as sick as a dog, I don’t feel any increase anxiety… This, in itself, is a miracle!!! Rich – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Elliott remove eee to eeemail http://home.earthlink.net/~ejk2/
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Over-generalization. This is where we mistakenly think that because something happened before, it "always" happens.
I always do that myself… Vashti
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – the stone age chiseled out: Gees ayches ayes jays kays …… are you people losing it. I don’t think the ‘we’ people ever had it – or at least it has been cured by pennicylyn. I think LOL cognition therapy What’s that? OH, coGNITIVE therapy….. I recommend the first chapter or so of the book, "Feeling Good, the New Mood Therapy" by David Burns, M.D. Here are some notes on the cognitive distortions, based on the Burns book: Emotions have the ability to distort our vision of reality. Hence the following common expressions: He sees the world through rose colored glasses. He was blinded by his rage. She always expects the worst. At such times we are making what have been called "cognitive distortions" since our thoughts, or our cognitions, are being clouded by our feelings. When this happens we are thrown off balance from reality. Consider these examples: Emotional reasoning. This is when we allow our emotions to lead us to faulty conclusions. An example of this is someone who believes that because he feels like a failure, he is a failure. Emotional imprisonment. This is where we become a prisoner to our feelings. We feel trapped or we feel locked into a certain course of action, even when our better judgment and all the evidence is against it. Mental coloring or filtering. We may either see everything in an overly positive or overly negative light. We may for example, see any sign of trouble as "a disaster." Or we might allow our emotions to trick us into converting a positive into a negative. An example of this would be someone who feels so bad about herself that she thinks people who compliment her are lying out of pity. Over-generalization. This is where we mistakenly think that because something happened before, it "always" happens. This is similar to black and white thinking. High EQ people refrain from making themselves feel worse by their distorted "self-talk." Some examples of over generalizing negative self-talk are: I always screw up. I am always forgetting things. . I always get lost. . I will never be happy. My partner is always late. Awareness of these common distortions may help remind us to try to remain realistic, to try to see in a more positive or at least neutral perspective, as opposed to seeing things based on largely negative perceptions, which often are actually distortions resulting from many years of negative social influences influences in our families or society. "Man is not troubled by events, but what man tells himself about those events." (Aristotle or someone) Ten Common Cognitive Distortions: 1. All or nothing thinking. Black or white. 2. Overgeneralization. Always/never… 3. Mental Filter. Dwell on negative aspect. Filters out the positive 4. Disqualify the positive. Changing + into – 5. Jump to conclusions: a)mind reading b)fortune telling 6. Magnification/minimization (Catastrophizing) 7. Emotional reasoning. I feel like x therefore I am x. 8. Should statements. 9. Labeling. 10. Personalization. Isn’t this fun? Is our children learning? (asked Dubya – the mentally challenged leader of the free world — Elliott remove eee to eeemail http://home.earthlink.net/~ejk2/
And then there is reality The reality is there are only a few set of rules for a better life. One is to understand your past, Two is not make the same mistakes from that past or past dysfunctional family Three is to stay consistent to do the right thing. Anxiety does tend to make one focus on his or her energy level rather then thinking things thru., and thus reactions and adrenlin response tend to overcompensate for rational thought.Thus, all thecognition books will come down to the things that are left: unsaid, redoing your own self image, slowing down your breathing, finding a good therapist, getting clean air, using specific set of lifestyle choices, and finding a good therapist, and having love in your life. if possible. . You really dont’ need too many other rules.
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are you saying that David won’t let you post anymore???
maybe i didn’t make myself clear, i will no longer be responding to the "MODERATOR THREAD". help me out here, y’all… did i SAY i wouldn’t be posting anymore? do i assume to be one that would have a boyfriend that dictates my behavior? Tell david we really miss him and have been wondering who his best friends were you had dinner with…
that’s a valuable pasttime. wondering is good for the soul. i told Him .the same david who doesnt want me calling him at home anymore. the same david I named my son after,the same david you claim I mother…
THAT’D be tha one ! ~tanya <smile
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are you saying that David won’t let you post anymore??? Tell david we really miss him and have been wondering who his best friends were you had dinner with….the same david who doesnt want me calling him at home anymore. the same david I named my son after,the same david you claim I mother… I clearly remember a time when I was able to sort of *understand* some of the posts here…
that’s what happens when one brings ‘personal laundry’ onto a public forum, Philip… when my email box is open to all. kinda makes ya wonder of one’s simple ‘code of ethics’, eh? LOL ~tanya
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – links to the stone age chiseled out: are you saying that David won’t let you post anymore??? Tell david we really miss him and have been wondering who his best friends were you had dinner with….the same david who doesnt want me calling him at home anymore. the same david I named my son after,the same david you claim I mother… I clearly remember a time when I was able to sort of *understand* some of the posts here… There’s not enough liquor in the world to make sense of that one. Well, maybe there was when it was written…….
(or crystal meth.) ~t
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We just got back a trip to the Indianapolis Museum of Art. They’ve just reworked the whole place, and I hadn’t been in there in over 20 years. No anxiety about having panic at all. I walked freely through the building. Renoir’s great grandson was giving a talk, which was part of the grand re-opening (along with new art exhibits – mainly modern art, which is somewhat ironic, I suppose). The museum is on the property (actual house/home) of Eli Lily, who donated the entire land (house and all) for the purpose of the museum back in the 60s. The Lily family has been a major benefactor to the ‘arts’ in this city for a very long time. I took no drugs other than that penicillin to kill of some nasty shit I picked up this afternoon from a ‘Nicole’. Yes, I found one and….. — Elliott remove eee to eeemail http://home.earthlink.net/~ejk2/
Glad you had such a nice and anxiety free trip… Did you ever met Renoir? <g Rich
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so, just a week ago my i had a 101 deg. tempature. but in 2 days, it was gone. From last summer my doctor said i had postnasal drip and gave me nasonex to help it. Right now, my throat hurts and when I spit, weird orange stuff comes out. aslo, that is how my throat becomes more relaxed, so every 3 hours i have to spit. is this caused by postnasal drip? Or is it some other disease that i need different medical care for? -Alex — Message posted via MedKB.com http://www.medkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/sinusitis/200507/1
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:36:11 GMT, "Alex T via MedKB.com" <fo…@MedKB.com> wrote: >so, just a week ago my i had a 101 deg. tempature. but in 2 days, it was gone. >From last summer my doctor said i had postnasal drip and gave me nasonex to >help it. Right now, my throat hurts and when I spit, weird orange stuff comes >out. aslo, that is how my throat becomes more relaxed, so every 3 hours i >have to spit. is this caused by postnasal drip? Or is it some other disease >that i need different medical care for?
It sounds like a side effect of the Nasonex. Blood tinged mucus is one, as is sort throat. Tom
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:16:58 +0100, Tom <m…@privacy.net> wrote: >On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:36:11 GMT, "Alex T via MedKB.com" ><fo…@MedKB.com> wrote: >>so, just a week ago my i had a 101 deg. tempature. but in 2 days, it was gone. >>From last summer my doctor said i had postnasal drip and gave me nasonex to >>help it. Right now, my throat hurts and when I spit, weird orange stuff comes >>out. aslo, that is how my throat becomes more relaxed, so every 3 hours i >>have to spit. is this caused by postnasal drip? Or is it some other disease >>that i need different medical care for? >It sounds like a side effect of the Nasonex. Blood tinged mucus is >one, as is sort throat.
Yes the original poster should not go overboard on the Nasonex and aim a bit outward. He may be spraying it right at a turbibate or the septum. If bleeding continues, discontinue use until he sees a doctor. He can try irrigation (see the FAQ) to clean out his nose and sinuses.
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Alex T via MedKB.com wrote: > so, just a week ago my i had a 101 deg. tempature. but in 2 days, it was gone. > From last summer my doctor said i had postnasal drip and gave me nasonex to > help it. Right now, my throat hurts and when I spit, weird orange stuff comes > out.
If that stuff is of a strange bright "Day-Glo" color, it could indicate a bacterial sinus infection. Wait a week or two more, and see if your condition improves. If not, then that suggests you have a bacterial sinus infection and you will need antibiotics. — Steven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlit…@earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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I use warm salt water to gargle when my throat feels like that from post nasal. Especially in the morning when I get up. Use this rinse for a couple of days, morning and at night before going to bed. My MD told me to do this, as I have been to his office so many times with a sore throat when I did not have one. shirley
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Congratulations Bongo! What excellent news! It makes me wonder now if I’m getting more migraines in the winter (when the windows tend to be closed). Something to think about, amyway.
CO detectors are cheap. Anyone who doesn’t have one is nuts.
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that is scary! What a relief to have it over though! We had a radon/CO monitor in our house for a while. My mom thought as we heat with wood CO could be an issue and so bought us one. Anyway it never
but we never had any fires so we took it out" ? You usually get CO in the house when your flue gets obstructed. This can happen at any time, without warning, and without other symptoms. I recommend you put it back in. And if you don’t have smoke detectors, or you haven’t checked the batteries on the ones you have recently, take care of that, too.
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Congratulations Bongo! What excellent news! It makes me wonder now if I’m getting more migraines in the winter (when the windows tend to be closed). Something to think about, amyway. Andy.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I had been suffering from a blocked nose, daily headaches and sinus pain for over 18 months, had been to the doctor numerous times, initially diagnosed with sinus problems, referred to an ENT specialist and eventually had a sinus op to remove a nasal polyp. Still no success, particularly with the daily headaches….
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – a. I have been very lucky that the fumes were at such a low level otherwise I would be dead by now. Yep. b. At no stage did any of the docs I see even suggest any sort of poisoning. Why would they suspect it? c. I have been through a needless sinus op. Maybe. d. Although I was shocked that it was CO poisoning I am just delighted to be headache free for the first time in 18 months. I feel fine now but did go back to the docs to explain what had happened – the doctor didn’t seem particularly clued up on CO poisoning and just said I should be fine as long as I wasn’t exposed to the fumes any more. I do wonder though if there will be any long-term effects. http://www.coheadquarters.com/ChronicCO/indexchronic2.htm
Thanks for that link – there seems to be a stack of information there so should keep me busy for a while.
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a. I have been very lucky that the fumes were at such a low level otherwise I would be dead by now.
Yep. b. At no stage did any of the docs I see even suggest any sort of poisoning.
Why would they suspect it? c. I have been through a needless sinus op.
Maybe. d. Although I was shocked that it was CO poisoning I am just delighted to be headache free for the first time in 18 months. I feel fine now but did go back to the docs to explain what had happened – the doctor didn’t seem particularly clued up on CO poisoning and just said I should be fine as long as I wasn’t exposed to the fumes any more. I do wonder though if there will be any long-term effects.
http://www.coheadquarters.com/ChronicCO/indexchronic2.htm
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that is scary! What a relief to have it over though! We had a radon/CO monitor in our house for a while. My mom thought as we heat with wood CO could be an issue and so bought us one. Anyway it never
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I had been suffering from a blocked nose, daily headaches and sinus pain for over 18 months, had been to the doctor numerous times, initially diagnosed with sinus problems, referred to an ENT specialist and eventually had a sinus op to remove a nasal polyp. Still no success, particularly with the daily headaches. Went back to the docs and was prescribed various other meds including propranolol and then when that didn’t work amitriptyline. Then one day my central heating boiler broke down and I got the engineer out to fix it, during this he did a ’smoke test’ which he said was not extracting properly and he said he needed to go into my loft where the flue was. The first thing the engineer said to me when he climbed into the loft was "have you been having headaches ?" when I said yes he said he had found the reason why – he had discovered that the flue (which goes out through my loft) had broken and the carbon monoxide fumes had been feeding down into the house. Anyway he fixed the flue and within 48 hrs my headaches disappeared. The first thing I did was go out and buy a carbon monoxide detector for the house and I am monitoring this very closely now! A number of thoughts occur to me: a. I have been very lucky that the fumes were at such a low level otherwise I would be dead by now. b. At no stage did any of the docs I see even suggest any sort of poisoning. c. I have been through a needless sinus op. d. Although I was shocked that it was CO poisoning I am just delighted to be headache free for the first time in 18 months. I feel fine now but did go back to the docs to explain what had happened – the doctor didn’t seem particularly clued up on CO poisoning and just said I should be fine as long as I wasn’t exposed to the fumes any more. I do wonder though if there will be any long-term effects.
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I had been suffering from a blocked nose, daily headaches and sinus pain for over 18 months, had been to the doctor numerous times, initially diagnosed with sinus problems, referred to an ENT specialist and eventually had a sinus op to remove a nasal polyp. Still no success, particularly with the daily headaches. Went back to the docs and was prescribed various other meds including propranolol and then when that didn’t work amitriptyline. Then one day my central heating boiler broke down and I got the engineer out to fix it, during this he did a ’smoke test’ which he said was not extracting properly and he said he needed to go into my loft where the flue was. The first thing the engineer said to me when he climbed into the loft was "have you been having headaches ?" when I said yes he said he had found the reason why – he had discovered that the flue (which goes out through my loft) had broken and the carbon monoxide fumes had been feeding down into the house. Anyway he fixed the flue and within 48 hrs my headaches disappeared. The first thing I did was go out and buy a carbon monoxide detector for the house and I am monitoring this very closely now! A number of thoughts occur to me: a. I have been very lucky that the fumes were at such a low level otherwise I would be dead by now. b. At no stage did any of the docs I see even suggest any sort of poisoning. c. I have been through a needless sinus op. d. Although I was shocked that it was CO poisoning I am just delighted to be headache free for the first time in 18 months. I feel fine now but did go back to the docs to explain what had happened – the doctor didn’t seem particularly clued up on CO poisoning and just said I should be fine as long as I wasn’t exposed to the fumes any more. I do wonder though if there will be any long-term effects.
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[From TV Guide] On the new season of "The Surreal Life," premiering Sunday, July 10, 9 PM Eastern Time on VH1: Supermodel Janice Dickinson’s allergies flare up, due to allergens in the house. It soon turns into a sinus infection. A doctor prescribes antibiotics but the side effects make Janice dizzy. Janice’s fever rises to 102 degrees. — Steven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlit…@earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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Great to see a little recognition of what we suffer with!
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Ran across a few posts back in ‘95 in Google group archives, about some people on this same sinusitis group referring to a method of irrigation, now get this, using Karo syrup (ONLY the Clear…not the dark) in the mix. The recipe was 1/2 tsp of salt, 1/2 tsp of baking soda, 1 pint of water (one post had only 8oz. water), and 1 teaspoon of the clear Karo syrup. This was referred back to some ENT at the University of Pittsburg, if I recall correctly. One person posted the identical recipe that was ‘passed’ down by his Aunt from her Dr. The Karo syrup was supposed to act as a moisturizer, and also ’slick’ things up. Was supposed to be used by a homemade spray bottle often through out the day, and then re-make a new batch after a week. One posted he used it in a WaterPic and by the Dr. Grossan method. This was supposed to be the best way to eliminate post nasal drip. (I’m one that is about ready to try anything!, but this sounds pretty weird) Anyone hear about this mixture…and if so, results? The people posting said it worked like a champ. Kids included. Maybe Dr. Grossan has heard of this? Post nasal drip is driving me up the wall this year. One or two posters were concerned that it would clog up the WaterPic, but the ‘user’ said he washed it out and all was fine. Just seems like putting sugar up you nose would be feeding bacteria…but another post in the same subject, said that they used pure sugar in bed sores in a nursing home, and it would make them heal faster. Theory is, sugar breaks down the cell walls of bacteria, and does the same in the nose, and literally ends the post nasal drip. Comments? Especially from Dr. Grossman! Thanks, …Allen
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In news:tCSwe.88615$6g3.12836@tornado.texas.rr.com, Allen L. <inva…@invalid.org> typed: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ran across a few posts back in ‘95 in Google group archives, about > some people on this same sinusitis group referring to a method of > irrigation, now get this, using Karo syrup (ONLY the Clear…not the > dark) in the mix. The recipe was 1/2 tsp of salt, 1/2 tsp of baking > soda, 1 pint of water (one post had only 8oz. water), and 1 teaspoon > of the clear Karo syrup. This was referred back to some ENT at the > University of Pittsburg, if I recall correctly. One person posted the > identical recipe that was ‘passed’ down by his Aunt from her Dr. The > Karo syrup was supposed to act as a moisturizer, and also ’slick’ > things up. Was supposed to be used by a homemade spray bottle often > through out the day, and then re-make a new batch after a week. One > posted he used it in a WaterPic and by the Dr. Grossan method. This > was supposed to be the best way to eliminate post nasal drip. (I’m > one that is about ready to try anything!, but this sounds pretty > weird) > Anyone hear about this mixture…and if so, results? The people > posting said it worked like a champ. Kids included. Maybe Dr. Grossan > has heard of this? Post nasal drip is driving me up the wall this > year. > One or two posters were concerned that it would clog up the WaterPic, > but the ‘user’ said he washed it out and all was fine. Just seems > like putting sugar up you nose would be feeding bacteria…but > another post in the same subject, said that they used pure sugar in > bed sores in a nursing home, and it would make them heal faster. > Theory is, sugar breaks down the cell walls of bacteria, and does the > same in the nose, and literally ends the post nasal drip. > Comments? Especially from Dr. Grossman! > Thanks, > …Allen
Last sentence was typed wrong, sorry Dr. Grossan! Hope you’ve not been called that!
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On 6/30/05 6:39 AM, in article tCSwe.88615$6g3.12…@tornado.texas.rr.com, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Allen L." <inva…@invalid.org> wrote: > Ran across a few posts back in ‘95 in Google group archives, about some > people on this same sinusitis group referring to a method of irrigation, now > get this, using Karo syrup (ONLY the Clear…not the dark) in the mix. The > recipe was 1/2 tsp of salt, 1/2 tsp of baking soda, 1 pint of water (one > post had only 8oz. water), and 1 teaspoon of the clear Karo syrup. This was > referred back to some ENT at the University of Pittsburg, if I recall > correctly. One person posted the identical recipe that was ‘passed’ down by > his Aunt from her Dr. The Karo syrup was supposed to act as a moisturizer, > and also ’slick’ things up. Was supposed to be used by a homemade spray > bottle often through out the day, and then re-make a new batch after a week. > One posted he used it in a WaterPic and by the Dr. Grossan method. This was > supposed to be the best way to eliminate post nasal drip. (I’m one that is > about ready to try anything!, but this sounds pretty weird) > Anyone hear about this mixture…and if so, results? The people posting said > it worked like a champ. Kids included. Maybe Dr. Grossan has heard of this? > Post nasal drip is driving me up the wall this year. > One or two posters were concerned that it would clog up the WaterPic, but > the ‘user’ said he washed it out and all was fine. Just seems like putting > sugar up you nose would be feeding bacteria…but another post in the same > subject, said that they used pure sugar in bed sores in a nursing home, and > it would make them heal faster. Theory is, sugar breaks down the cell walls > of bacteria, and does the same in the nose, and literally ends the post > nasal drip. > Comments? Especially from Dr. Grossman! > Thanks, > …Allen
I have never used Karo syrup for irrigation. I am one of those old fuss pots – I can’t recommend anything until it is proven to be safe for my patients.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On 6/30/05 6:39 AM, in article > tCSwe.88615$6g3.12…@tornado.texas.rr.com, "Allen L." > <inva…@invalid.org> wrote: >> Ran across a few posts back in ‘95 in Google group archives, about >> some people on this same sinusitis group referring to a method of >> irrigation, now get this, using Karo syrup (ONLY the Clear…not the >> dark) in the mix. The recipe was 1/2 tsp of salt, 1/2 tsp of baking >> soda, 1 pint of water (one post had only 8oz. water), and 1 teaspoon >> of the clear Karo syrup. This was referred back to some ENT at the >> University of Pittsburg, if I recall correctly. One person posted >> the identical recipe that was ‘passed’ down by his Aunt from her Dr. >> The Karo syrup was supposed to act as a moisturizer, and also >> ’slick’ things up. Was supposed to be used by a homemade spray >> bottle often through out the day, and then re-make a new batch after >> a week. One posted he used it in a WaterPic and by the Dr. Grossan >> method. This was supposed to be the best way to eliminate post nasal >> drip. (I’m one that is about ready to try anything!, but this sounds >> pretty weird) >> Anyone hear about this mixture…and if so, results? The people >> posting said it worked like a champ. Kids included. Maybe Dr. >> Grossan has heard of this? Post nasal drip is driving me up the wall >> this year. >> One or two posters were concerned that it would clog up the >> WaterPic, but the ‘user’ said he washed it out and all was fine. >> Just seems like putting sugar up you nose would be feeding >> bacteria…but another post in the same subject, said that they used >> pure sugar in bed sores in a nursing home, and it would make them >> heal faster. Theory is, sugar breaks down the cell walls of >> bacteria, and does the same in the nose, and literally ends the post >> nasal drip. >> Comments? Especially from Dr. Grossman! >> Thanks, >> …Allen >In news:BEE96698.372C%hydromed@adelphia.net, >Murray Grossan <hydro…@adelphia.net> typed: > I have never used Karo syrup for irrigation. I am one of those old > fuss pots > – I can’t recommend anything until it is proven to be safe for my > patients.
Thanks Doc! You made up my mind about trying that idea. I’ve cut my salt back to 1/2 tsp (instead of 1 tsp) and 1/4 tsp of baking soda in 1 pint of water and irrigating 2 times a day, and it does seem to be slowing the PND. I think maybe I was drawing too much moisture from my nose and leaving it so dry that it caused the post nasal drip to increase…is that possible?? Anyway, whatever works. Thanks for the reply, …Allen
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:39:37 GMT, "Allen L." <inva…@invalid.org> wrote: >Ran across a few posts back in ‘95 in Google group archives, about some >people on this same sinusitis group referring to a method of irrigation, now >get this, using Karo syrup (ONLY the Clear…not the dark) in the mix. The >recipe was 1/2 tsp of salt, 1/2 tsp of baking soda, 1 pint of water (one >post had only 8oz. water), and 1 teaspoon of the clear Karo syrup. This was >referred back to some ENT at the University of Pittsburg, if I recall >correctly. One person posted the identical recipe that was ‘passed’ down by >his Aunt from her Dr. The Karo syrup was supposed to act as a moisturizer, >and also ’slick’ things up. Was supposed to be used by a homemade spray >bottle often through out the day, and then re-make a new batch after a week. >One posted he used it in a WaterPic and by the Dr. Grossan method. This was >supposed to be the best way to eliminate post nasal drip. (I’m one that is >about ready to try anything!, but this sounds pretty weird) >Anyone hear about this mixture…and if so, results?
It is described here here http://www.chmkids.org/chm/ent/families/treatments/nasalwash.html and here http://www.upmc.edu/eyeear/sinonasal/pdfFiles/saltWaterRinse.pdf
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I have been to my DDS for 2 months with a toothache that I cannot sleep at night. She took xrays, check the teeth (molar) and cannot find the cause for this pain. I had another one last night and I woke up. Took 1000 mg tylenol and in a few hours went back to sleep. My sinus are okay, at least I donot feel any thing is going on there. Any ideas or sites to help me????? shirley
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 07:12:58 -0500, thebagladyshirley…@webtv.net (Shirley Thebaglady) wrote: >I have been to my DDS for 2 months with a toothache that I cannot sleep >at night. She took xrays, check the teeth (molar) and cannot find the >cause for this pain. >I had another one last night and I woke up. Took 1000 mg tylenol and in >a few hours went back to sleep. >My sinus are okay, at least I donot feel any thing is going on there. >Any ideas or sites to help me????? >shirley
Have you seen an MD? Heart problems can sometimes cause pain that is hard to distinguish from tooth pain.
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:34:05 +0800, "Fat Cat" <FrancisC…@hotmail.com> wrote: >China is cold and many people are too thin to fight the cold. >Some fat will give them enough heat insulation and backup >heat source.
I agree.
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Fat Cat wrote: > Chinese say rhinitis and sinusitis are caused by the Cold in the body, > and beef can insert some Heat to cure this Cold. 
> Is that true? How does western medical theory have a say? > Thank you.
I would guess that no western theories hold that beef can cure rhinitis and sinusitis. I eat a lot of beef and still suffer.
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On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 02:39:07 GMT, chunk <b…@chunks.com> wrote: >I would guess that no western theories hold that beef >can cure rhinitis and sinusitis. I eat a lot of beef >and still suffer.
Yes it might help if people were generally deficient in fat and protein. That might have been true in China at least atone point, but today in the Western countries people have an excess of fat and protein, not a deficiency.
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China is cold and many people are too thin to fight the cold. Some fat will give them enough heat insulation and backup heat source. "Don Brady" <dbr…@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:o0i3011sprk5g1va1t24v9950926nrlstj@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 02:39:07 GMT, chunk <b…@chunks.com> wrote: > >I would guess that no western theories hold that beef > >can cure rhinitis and sinusitis. I eat a lot of beef > >and still suffer. > Yes it might help if people were generally deficient in fat and protein. That > might have been true in China at least atone point, but today in the Western > countries people have an excess of fat and protein, not a deficiency.
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Chinese say rhinitis and sinusitis are caused by the Cold in the body, and beef can insert some Heat to cure this Cold. Is that true? How does western medical theory have a say? Thank you.
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greetings, i just got my radiology report for my sinus ct scan and i have a few questions. the reports says that i have a ‘lobular fluid or soft tissue mass in the floor of my LEFT maxillary antrum measuring approx. 1.8 cm in size, consistent with a polyp or retention cyst from chronic inflammatory disease’.my first question is do these types of things require hospital surgery or can my ent deal with this thing in his office? ( i’m assuming surgery will be required ). second question is if this thing is hanging out in my LEFT maxillary but causing major pain in the RIGHT side of my face?. i thought the two sides were separate. thanks for any info and a very safe and happy new year to all cj
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I also have retention cysts in my maxilary sinus. Each ENT I’ve seen didn’t recommend removal. They say that the cysts are just a symtom of the sinusitis but not the cause. I’m still sick though so I really don’t buy into their theory much. Finding a doctor that knows what he’s doing is the most difficult part of this disease. David Sacramento, CA
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my ent said that having a retention cyst is like having a goatee (he really said that), meaning that its no big deal. he suggested seeing a neurologist for the headaches. i thought he was a bit of an a-hole. cant wait to see the co-pay bill.good luck cj – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dball63 wrote: > I also have retention cysts in my maxilary sinus. Each ENT I’ve seen > didn’t recommend removal. They say that the cysts are just a symtom of > the sinusitis but not the cause. I’m still sick though so I really > don’t buy into their theory much. > Finding a doctor that knows what he’s doing is the most difficult part > of this disease. > David > Sacramento, CA
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