Filed under: Sinus Pain
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Hi I am new here. My problem is I have had a sinus infection for the past 3 weeks. I have tried ever over the counter product for sinus and colds. Nothing worked so I went to the Doctor and he prescribed me Zithromax zpack. I am now done taking that and I still have the leaky clogged nose and I have had a clogged ear for the past 2 weeks and it will not even crackle. I have tried blowing threw my nose while holding it to make my ear pop and this does not work. This is driving me crazy! The only symptom that went away was the sinus pain. This I assume is a good sign. My question is how can I get my ear to pop this is very annoying and its affecting my hearing. Also how long does a sinus infection take to clear up after antibiotic use? Thank you
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Deb: I also have taken Zithromax for my sinus infections it works great. You take it for 5 days and it works for 10 days total. Depending on how back you infection is wait for another 5 days and see how you feel. if you don’t feel better in 5 days call you doctor and tell him and ask for another dose of Zithromax. I had a sinus infection over Thanksging and it took 3 weeks before it was gone. My ears were clogged and so were my sinuses, but the Zithromax worked great for me. Barbara Booth
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I have been seeing a health practioner/chiropractor for close to a year now. He started out helping my stomach problems (yeast, and i can no longer take nsaids). Now that that is under control, he is trying to help with my migraines. I easily get weather headaches.. any significant change in the barometric pressure. Sometimes it is sinus, sometimes migraines.. From what i’ve read, about everyone on here knows exactly what i’m talking about. My last appt with him, he checked my tyramine level. It was below normal. He most of his migraine patients do have a low. He gave me Tyramine drops to take everyday. So far so good. The only pain that i have had is a bit of tension feeling in my neck last night.. could have been the weather, or the position i was laying on the couch. For a week i haven’t had any type of sinus pain. The true test will be in about 10 days when my cycle starts. For the last month (before the tyramine) i was experiencing some sort of headache pain or migraine 4-5 days out of a week. I’ve tried searching for the tyramine online, but can only find it relating to tyramine containing foods–the trigger foods that most migraine sufferers avoid. Has anyone ever heard of this? Tracey below is a link to what my doctor does http://www.healthy.net/aaabem/EAV/eavexplained.htm
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I did see something about the tyramine thing when I was reading up on my sulfite allergy. I don’t seem to have any problems with that though. Good for you that you have a good practitioner…they can be hard to find. Michelle
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been seeing a health practioner/chiropractor for close to a year now. He started out helping my stomach problems (yeast, and i can no longer take nsaids). Now that that is under control, he is trying to help with my migraines. I easily get weather headaches.. any significant change in the barometric pressure. Sometimes it is sinus, sometimes migraines.. From what i’ve read, about everyone on here knows exactly what i’m talking about. My last appt with him, he checked my tyramine level. It was below normal. He most of his migraine patients do have a low. He gave me Tyramine drops to take everyday. So far so good. The only pain that i have had is a bit of tension feeling in my neck last night.. could have been the weather, or the position i was laying on the couch. For a week i haven’t had any type of sinus pain. The true test will be in about 10 days when my cycle starts. For the last month (before the tyramine) i was experiencing some sort of headache pain or migraine 4-5 days out of a week. I’ve tried searching for the tyramine online, but can only find it relating to tyramine containing foods–the trigger foods that most migraine sufferers avoid. Has anyone ever heard of this? Tracey below is a link to what my doctor does http://www.healthy.net/aaabem/EAV/eavexplained.htm
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I still go to my family doc too. They give me the imitrex nasal spray and some darvocet. So far the nasal spray is the only thing that will get rid of or suppress a bad migrane. It really sucks not being able to take any type of nsaid! First they took the ppa off the market, then i couldnt’ tolerate nsaids anymore. Since i was able to get my imitrex thru our mail order, i have them stashed every where. I checked out the sulfite allergy (i’m allergic to sulfa), which i think i’m ok on. I do know that i’m allergic to seafood.. not sure if it is the iodine or what. One day I could no longer eat the stuffed shrimp my mother brought home. It takes a few hours, but i get a migraine until i get sick. I can eat freshwater fish though.. It isn’t the kind of thing you want to test Tracey – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I did see something about the tyramine thing when I was reading up on my sulfite allergy. I don’t seem to have any problems with that though. Good for you that you have a good practitioner…they can be hard to find. Michelle
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Yeah, I guess that old "get em drunk and they’ll do anything" trick ain’t gonna work 
Michelle
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So, tell your husband: Fagedaboudit … I told my husband we could test out a few wines that say they are sulfite free or low in sulfites, but it didn’t sound that appealing after I said it. I get 24 hours of terrible pain and end up in bed until it goes away.
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So, tell your husband: Fagedaboudit … – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I told my husband we could test out a few wines that say they are sulfite free or low in sulfites, but it didn’t sound that appealing after I said it. I get 24 hours of terrible pain and end up in bed until it goes away.
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I agree, I told my husband we could test out a few wines that say they are sulfite free or low in sulfites, but it didn’t sound that appealing after I said it. I get 24 hours of terrible pain and end up in bed until it goes away. Michelle
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I still go to my family doc too. They give me the imitrex nasal spray and some darvocet. So far the nasal spray is the only thing that will get rid of or suppress a bad migrane. It really sucks not being able to take any type of nsaid! First they took the ppa off the market, then i couldnt’ tolerate nsaids anymore. Since i was able to get my imitrex thru our mail order, i have them stashed every where. I checked out the sulfite allergy (i’m allergic to sulfa), which i think i’m ok on. I do know that i’m allergic to seafood.. not sure if it is the iodine or what. One day I could no longer eat the stuffed shrimp my mother brought home. It takes a few hours, but i get a migraine until i get sick. I can eat freshwater fish though.. It isn’t the kind of thing you want to test Tracey
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I did see something about the tyramine thing when I was reading up on my sulfite allergy. I don’t seem to have any problems with that though. Good for you that you have a good practitioner…they can be hard to find. Michelle
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While I get regular infections of my sinus,the more frequent problem is congestion which gives me major headache and sinus pain problems. I began following Dr. Grossan’s procedures 8 months ago and as my ENT and I refined my procedures I had increasing success. I’ve found Alkalol to be a major help. I have been using Alkalol full strength in a spray bottle to open my sinus for irrigation when they are closed. I also sometimes use a 50% solution with Breath-Ease in an irrigator bottle that holds 8 oz. for middle of the night or too lazy to set up the waterpik or when traveling and this is quite effective. My cilia action seems to stop or slow down when I don’t use the waterpik technique regularly, however. I’ve been trying it with Alkalol ratios from 10 to 50 % but am unsure if that does any good because it drains fairly quickly and perhaps the Alkalol is largely wasted this way. Is it wise to use any Alkalol in the waterpik with the Breath-Ease or is it just a waste? (With shipping and duty it costs $CDN 7.00 / bottle to use it here, ($US 4.50) but if it is useful I don’t mind.) If it is useful, what percentage of Alkalol should I use in the mix?
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Using Alkolol in a dilute soliution can be soothing to the nose. I don’t know how it affects the action of Breath.ease XL. It is important to use Breathe.ease at an isotonic level and diluting it with other product will affect that concentration. If you are not completely cleared with pulsatile irrigation, please ask your doctor if using proteolytic enzymes – papain, bromelain via buccal pouch would be of help. See www.sinus-relief.com/clearease.html for some references. The action is to thin the mucus and help the cilia function. Best, Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com http://www.TinnitusRelief.net http://www.emedicine.com/ent/topic516.htm
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I’ve been using a hot lemon drink that contains a lot of paracetemol, and a decongestant spray, but antihistimines work a lot better for me. Kylie —
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – surely you could take pure aspirin without anithistamines??? Janneke
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surely you could take pure aspirin without anithistamines??? Janneke
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I was going to get a flu shot THIS week!!! I got sick before I got the chance. Hopefully I can have the shot in a few weeks, when I’m over this flu. Kylie —
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anti-histamines are my friend more than anti-depressants. You should have gotten your FLU SHOT!! Next year, remember this. : I had a headache on Sunday. Thought nothing of it. I had a headache and a : sore throat by Monday. I had to go out for a chiropractors appointment, but : I wasn’t too bad. All day Tuesday (my time) I’ve been bed ridden, runny : nose, headache, sinus pain and nausea. I’ve cleared the next couple of days : hoping that if I rest I will be ok soon. : I hate it that I can’t take anything for this flu. I can’t take cold and : flu tablets because they have antihistimines in them and they interfere with : most antidepressants. And I’m allergic to codine so I can’t even knock out : the pain that way. : owwwww….ugh. : I’m probably going to my boyfriends for a couple of days. He offered to let : me veg out on his couch and said he’ll bring me cups of tea and soup and : stuff. He’s sweet like that. : I should still be around, but might not be able to post much. : Well, I’m off to lay awake half the night again. Hopefully my cat will keep : me company. : Kylie. : — : Love cats? Visit The Bob Zone: http://bobzone.lheydon.shorturl.com
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I had a headache on Sunday. Thought nothing of it. I had a headache and a sore throat by Monday. I had to go out for a chiropractors appointment, but I wasn’t too bad. All day Tuesday (my time) I’ve been bed ridden, runny nose, headache, sinus pain and nausea. I’ve cleared the next couple of days hoping that if I rest I will be ok soon. I hate it that I can’t take anything for this flu. I can’t take cold and flu tablets because they have antihistimines in them and they interfere with most antidepressants. And I’m allergic to codine so I can’t even knock out the pain that way. owwwww….ugh. I’m probably going to my boyfriends for a couple of days. He offered to let me veg out on his couch and said he’ll bring me cups of tea and soup and stuff. He’s sweet like that. I should still be around, but might not be able to post much. Well, I’m off to lay awake half the night again. Hopefully my cat will keep me company. Kylie. — Love cats? Visit The Bob Zone: http://bobzone.lheydon.shorturl.com
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Can wine "turn"? We got some (cheap) wine…a brand I usually buy. Upon pouring the first glass,I noticed bubbling. I thought that was a bit strange. Upon tasting it…GAG!!! It tasted like cider gone bad! Reminded me of cider I got sick on as a child. Took it back to the store for an exchange. Curious as to whether anyone else has ever had this experience. Sharon..who believes in Better Living through Eccentricity
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Frankenmel wrote: > Can wine "turn"?
Oh, yeah. To vinegar, and worse. > We got some (cheap) wine…a brand I usually buy. Upon pouring > the first glass,I noticed bubbling. I thought that was a bit strange. Upon > tasting it…GAG!!! It tasted like cider gone bad! Reminded me of cider I got > sick on as a child. Took it back to the store for
Sounds like something went wrong in the process and the wine kept fermenting after it was corked. I’ve had this happen – rarely, but on occasion – with expensive wine as well as the cheaper stuff. Nasty, isn’t it? –Pat Kight kig…@peak.org
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Cathy Friedmann <c…@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:a15evb$ofhsh$1@ID-103542.news.dfncis.de… > Hmmmm… wonder what *was* in it? (Talcum powder??)
Talcum powder is really finely ground rock and can be carcinogenic when inserted into mucus membranes! It was probably finely ground dried herbal matter – maybe not tobacco leaves but some other plant, much as the *herbal non-tobacco cigarettes* are. — Jette "Work for Peace and remain fiercely loving" – Jim Byrnes je…@blueyonder.co.uk http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fanfic.html
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>From: "Jette Goldie" jetteREM…@blueyonder.co.uk >Date: 1/4/02 9:59 AM Pacific Standard Time >Yes, wine can "turn". If conditions during bottling are >not sterile, then an unwanted bacteria or yeast can >get in and cause the wine to turn to vinegar, or >to go through a secondary fermentation
I wonder if you could get sick from it then. It tasted a lot like cider that made me sick as a child. Sharon..who believes in Better Living through Eccentricity
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Jette Goldie wrote: > Cathy Friedmann <c…@adelphia.net> wrote in message > news:a15evb$ofhsh$1@ID-103542.news.dfncis.de… > > Hmmmm… wonder what *was* in it? (Talcum powder??) > Talcum powder is really finely ground rock and can > be carcinogenic when inserted into mucus membranes! > It was probably finely ground dried herbal matter – maybe > not tobacco leaves but some other plant, much as the > *herbal non-tobacco cigarettes* are.
No, it was definitely a white powder, not organic matter of any sort. Sold in little tins perhaps two inches across, with psychedelic lettering on the labels, usually in head shops. Either that, or I dreamed the whole thing. Which, considering how I spent much of the 60s, is a distinct possibility… –Pat Kight kig…@peak.org
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Pat Kight wrote: > Cathy Friedmann wrote: > > But I thought real snuff, as in the snuff that little silver boxes used to > > hold – a couple of centuries ago, was sniffed up the nose?? > Yes. That may have been the affectation we were trying to ape in the > ’60s, god knows. But the product wasn’t tobacco-based. > –Pat Kight > surprised nobody else remembers this stuff… > kig…@peak.org
I remember it, Pat! I think I tried it once or twice. The head shops of today just aren’t the same…………………………….. Cindy
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Frankenmel <franken…@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20020104192220.24756.00004302@mb-md.aol.com… > >From: "Jette Goldie" jetteREM…@blueyonder.co.uk > >Date: 1/4/02 9:59 AM Pacific Standard Time > >Yes, wine can "turn". If conditions during bottling are > >not sterile, then an unwanted bacteria or yeast can > >get in and cause the wine to turn to vinegar, or > >to go through a secondary fermentation > I wonder if you could get sick from it then. It tasted a lot like cider that > made me sick as a child.
It could certainly cause a gastric upset, no problem, if one drank more than a mouthful – but if it was really bad, I don’t think anyone could drink more than a sip <g> — Jette "Work for Peace and remain fiercely loving" – Jim Byrnes je…@blueyonder.co.uk http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fanfic.html
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Subject: Re: OT:wine question >From: Pat Kight kig…@peak.org >Date: 1/4/02 08:14 PM Eastern Standard Time >Message-id: <3C36536A.C7255…@peak.org> >Jette Goldie wrote: >> Cathy Friedmann <c…@adelphia.net> wrote in message >> news:a15evb$ofhsh$1@ID-103542.news.dfncis.de… >> > Hmmmm… wonder what *was* in it? (Talcum powder??) >> Talcum powder is really finely ground rock and can >> be carcinogenic when inserted into mucus membranes! >> It was probably finely ground dried herbal matter – maybe >> not tobacco leaves but some other plant, much as the >> *herbal non-tobacco cigarettes* are. >No, it was definitely a white powder, not organic matter of any sort. >Sold in little tins perhaps two inches across, with psychedelic >lettering on the labels, usually in head shops. >Either that, or I dreamed the whole thing. >Which, considering how I spent much of the 60s, is a distinct >possibility… >–Pat Kight >kig…@peak.org
I remember someone having that stuff – the powder stuff. I might have even tried it. I don’t clearly remember. I often wonder if what I did back then, has anything to do with what I am going through now. I put some pretty strong chemicals in my body then. Luna
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Cathy Friedmann <c…@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:a1572c$o9b4n$1@ID-103542.news.dfncis.de… > But I thought real snuff, as in the snuff that little silver boxes used to > hold – a couple of centuries ago, was sniffed up the nose??
Snuff – which is still available – is still sniffed up the nose. Doesn’t seem to be linked with so many cancers as chewing tobacco or smoking tobacco products. — Jette "Work for Peace and remain fiercely loving" – Jim Byrnes je…@blueyonder.co.uk http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fanfic.html
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Cathy Friedmann wrote: > But I thought real snuff, as in the snuff that little silver boxes used to > hold – a couple of centuries ago, was sniffed up the nose??
Yes. That may have been the affectation we were trying to ape in the ’60s, god knows. But the product wasn’t tobacco-based. –Pat Kight surprised nobody else remembers this stuff… kig…@peak.org
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Hmmmm… wonder what *was* in it? (Talcum powder??) — Cathy — "Staccato signals of constant information…" ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon Pat Kight <kig…@peak.org> wrote in message
news:3C36351C.93CEE88F@peak.org… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Cathy Friedmann wrote: > > But I thought real snuff, as in the snuff that little silver boxes used to > > hold – a couple of centuries ago, was sniffed up the nose?? > Yes. That may have been the affectation we were trying to ape in the > ’60s, god knows. But the product wasn’t tobacco-based. > –Pat Kight > surprised nobody else remembers this stuff… > kig…@peak.org
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But I thought real snuff, as in the snuff that little silver boxes used to hold – a couple of centuries ago, was sniffed up the nose?? — Cathy — "Staccato signals of constant information…" ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon Pat Kight <kig…@peak.org> wrote in message
news:3C35EED6.61F7DD91@peak.org… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Marilee ND wrote: > > Pat Kight <kig…@peak.org> wrote in message > > > There was a season when all the local hippies were using strawberry > > > *everything*: Wine, incense, candles, body oil, rolling papers, "snuff" > > > (anybody else remember that stuff? > > Remember it??? Good grief, people still use it all the time, though I don’t > > see any strawberry. Just the regular Copenhagen and Skoal round tins, and > > guys with a lipfull, and their horrible spitting. > No, this wasn’t real tobacco snuff, it was some kind of hippie "snuff" – > white powder in various "flavors," from menthol to strawberry. It was > meant to be snorted, not packed under the gum like "real" snuff. I > suspect, in retrospect, it was probably intended for people who wanted > to pretend they were sniffing coke. > > Worst office story: One day a young man of about 20 came into the office > > to pay his premium. He had obviously just taken a big pinch as he could > > hardly talk for the amount of crud tucked in his lower lip. > > He put a paper cup on my own desk right in front of me while he counted out > > his money–and the cup was obviously his portable spittoon. I could see the > > dried rivulets of tobacco juice clinging to the sides of the cup. > Bleah… > –Pat Kight > who once dated a guy who used Skoal – briefly. Kissing a man with snuff > in his mouth is not a pleasant experience. > kig…@peak.org
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I have seen wine turn to vinegar when it was sitting open too long, but never had that with a freshly opened bottle. sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Cathy Friedmann wrote: > Yeah, it can turn to vinegar. Don’t know about the fizzy bit, though. I > take it, it wasn’t a sparkling wine to _begin_ with? <g> > — > Cathy > — > "Staccato signals of constant information…" > ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon > Frankenmel <franken…@aol.comnospam> wrote in message > news:20020103222954.22813.00002832@mb-mq.aol.com… > > Can wine "turn"? We got some (cheap) wine…a brand I usually buy. Upon > pouring > > the first glass,I noticed bubbling. I thought that was a bit strange. Upon > > tasting it…GAG!!! It tasted like cider gone bad! Reminded me of cider I > got > > sick on as a child. Took it back to the store for an exchange. Curious as > to > > whether anyone else has ever had this experience. > > Sharon..who believes in Better Living through Eccentricity
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> > Pat Kight <kig…@peak.org> wrote in message > –Pat Kight > who once dated a guy who used Skoal – briefly. Kissing a man with snuff > in his mouth is not a pleasant experience.
Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Gag! Retch! Bleah! Marilee
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>From: Pat Kight kig…@peak.org >Date: 1/4/02 10:05 AM Pacific Standard Time >–Pat Kight >who once dated a guy who used Skoal – briefly. Kissing a man with snuff >in his mouth is not a pleasant experience.
We used to work with a guy who chewed. One time,totally out of curiosity,I asked to try a teeny,tiny bit. YECCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sharon..who believes in Better Living through Eccentricity
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Yep, that was it – "Strawberry Hill"! You’re right, I’d forgotten how virtually everything was strawberry this, strawberry that for a while there. Nope, though – to the snuff – don’t think I ever encountered it. Cathy — "Staccato signals of constant information…" ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon Pat Kight <kig…@peak.org> wrote in message
news:3C35D687.B7C26796@peak.org… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Cathy Friedmann wrote: > > I’m trying to remember the name of the cheapo wine all of us poor students > > tended to drink in college… Boone’s Farm? > Ahhhhhh! Evil memory, evil memory! > Boone’s Farm apple wine … or its equally vile pink cousin, Strawberry > Hill, the wine that taught me just how bad projectile vomiting can be, > and permanently put me *off* anything flavored with strawberry (other > than actual strawberries). > There was a season when all the local hippies were using strawberry > *everything*: Wine, incense, candles, body oil, rolling papers, "snuff" > (anybody else remember that stuff? Came in pretty little round tins … > you snorted it up your nostrils and experienced instant sinus pain… > what *were* we thinking???) > As fondly as I remember much of the ’60s, there are parts of that > counterculture that, in retrospect, are downright embarrassing… > –Pat Kight > kig…@peak.org
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Frankenmel <franken…@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20020103222954.22813.00002832@mb-mq.aol.com… > Can wine "turn"? We got some (cheap) wine…a brand I usually buy. Upon pouring > the first glass,I noticed bubbling. I thought that was a bit strange. Upon > tasting it…GAG!!! It tasted like cider gone bad! Reminded me of cider I got > sick on as a child. Took it back to the store for an exchange. Curious as to > whether anyone else has ever had this experience.
Yes, wine can "turn". If conditions during bottling are not sterile, then an unwanted bacteria or yeast can get in and cause the wine to turn to vinegar, or to go through a secondary fermentation (the same principle as sparkling wine, but not so pleasant results). It can also be contaminated by the cork if the cork is imperfect or infected – you’ll hear of wine being "corked", meaning it has gone sour. I used to make my own wine. One batch of elderberry obviously hadn’t finished fermenting properly when I bottled it – woke up to find the bottle tops (plastic "corks" – easier to sterilise) being shot out of the bottles like balls from a cannon! Did you know that elderberry wine leaves BLUE stains on carpets? (and half way up the wall, and all over the towels laid down to mop it up, and the shirt I was wearing at the time <g>) However what was left in the bottles tasted utterly delicious! <g> — Jette "Work for Peace and remain fiercely loving" – Jim Byrnes je…@blueyonder.co.uk http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fanfic.html
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Marilee ND wrote: > Pat Kight <kig…@peak.org> wrote in message > > There was a season when all the local hippies were using strawberry > > *everything*: Wine, incense, candles, body oil, rolling papers, "snuff" > > (anybody else remember that stuff? > Remember it??? Good grief, people still use it all the time, though I don’t > see any strawberry. Just the regular Copenhagen and Skoal round tins, and > guys with a lipfull, and their horrible spitting.
No, this wasn’t real tobacco snuff, it was some kind of hippie "snuff" – white powder in various "flavors," from menthol to strawberry. It was meant to be snorted, not packed under the gum like "real" snuff. I suspect, in retrospect, it was probably intended for people who wanted to pretend they were sniffing coke. > Worst office story: One day a young man of about 20 came into the office > to pay his premium. He had obviously just taken a big pinch as he could > hardly talk for the amount of crud tucked in his lower lip. > He put a paper cup on my own desk right in front of me while he counted out > his money–and the cup was obviously his portable spittoon. I could see the > dried rivulets of tobacco juice clinging to the sides of the cup.
Bleah… –Pat Kight who once dated a guy who used Skoal – briefly. Kissing a man with snuff in his mouth is not a pleasant experience. kig…@peak.org
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Yeah, it can turn to vinegar. Don’t know about the fizzy bit, though. I take it, it wasn’t a sparkling wine to _begin_ with? <g> — Cathy — "Staccato signals of constant information…" ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon Frankenmel <franken…@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20020103222954.22813.00002832@mb-mq.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Can wine "turn"? We got some (cheap) wine…a brand I usually buy. Upon pouring > the first glass,I noticed bubbling. I thought that was a bit strange. Upon > tasting it…GAG!!! It tasted like cider gone bad! Reminded me of cider I got > sick on as a child. Took it back to the store for an exchange. Curious as to > whether anyone else has ever had this experience. > Sharon..who believes in Better Living through Eccentricity
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>From: Pat Kight kig…@peak.org >Date: 1/3/02 10:53 PM Pacific Standard Time >Sounds like something went wrong in the process and the wine kept >fermenting after it was corked. I’ve had this happen – rarely, but on >occasion – with expensive wine as well as the cheaper stuff. Nasty, >isn’t it?
Very. Sharon..who believes in Better Living through Eccentricity
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>From: "Cathy Friedmann" c…@adelphia.net >Date: 1/3/02 10:50 PM Pacific Standard Time >Yeah, it can turn to vinegar. Don’t know about the fizzy bit, though. I >take it, it wasn’t a sparkling wine to _begin_ with? <g>
Safe assumption ;-D. My friend gave us a bottle of Oak Knoll Niagara,and boy,was that ever wonderful compared to the cheap stuff. Sharon..who believes in Better Living through Eccentricity
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I’m trying to remember the name of the cheapo wine all of us poor students tended to drink in college… Boone’s Farm? — Cathy — "Staccato signals of constant information…" ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon Frankenmel <franken…@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20020104015457.24884.00003794@mb-md.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >From: "Cathy Friedmann" c…@adelphia.net > >Date: 1/3/02 10:50 PM Pacific Standard Time > >Yeah, it can turn to vinegar. Don’t know about the fizzy bit, though. I > >take it, it wasn’t a sparkling wine to _begin_ with? <g> > Safe assumption ;-D. My friend gave us a bottle of Oak Knoll Niagara,and > boy,was that ever wonderful compared to the cheap stuff. > Sharon..who believes in Better Living through Eccentricity
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That would be it 
Kathy J ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Subject: Re: OT:wine question >From: "Cathy Friedmann" c…@adelphia.net >Date: 1/4/02 >I’m trying to remember the name of the cheapo wine all of us poor students >tended to drink in college… Boone’s Farm? >– >Cathy
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Cathy Friedmann wrote: > I’m trying to remember the name of the cheapo wine all of us poor students > tended to drink in college… Boone’s Farm?
Ahhhhhh! Evil memory, evil memory! Boone’s Farm apple wine … or its equally vile pink cousin, Strawberry Hill, the wine that taught me just how bad projectile vomiting can be, and permanently put me *off* anything flavored with strawberry (other than actual strawberries). There was a season when all the local hippies were using strawberry *everything*: Wine, incense, candles, body oil, rolling papers, "snuff" (anybody else remember that stuff? Came in pretty little round tins … you snorted it up your nostrils and experienced instant sinus pain… what *were* we thinking???) As fondly as I remember much of the ’60s, there are parts of that counterculture that, in retrospect, are downright embarrassing… –Pat Kight kig…@peak.org
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news:3C35D687.B7C26796@peak.org… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Cathy Friedmann wrote: > > I’m trying to remember the name of the cheapo wine all of us poor students > > tended to drink in college… Boone’s Farm? > Ahhhhhh! Evil memory, evil memory! > Boone’s Farm apple wine … or its equally vile pink cousin, Strawberry > Hill, the wine that taught me just how bad projectile vomiting can be, > and permanently put me *off* anything flavored with strawberry (other > than actual strawberries). > There was a season when all the local hippies were using strawberry > *everything*: Wine, incense, candles, body oil, rolling papers, "snuff" > (anybody else remember that stuff?
Remember it??? Good grief, people still use it all the time, though I don’t see any strawberry. Just the regular Copenhagen and Skoal round tins, and guys with a lipfull, and their horrible spitting. Worst office story: One day a young man of about 20 came into the office to pay his premium. He had obviously just taken a big pinch as he could hardly talk for the amount of crud tucked in his lower lip. He put a paper cup on my own desk right in front of me while he counted out his money–and the cup was obviously his portable spittoon. I could see the dried rivulets of tobacco juice clinging to the sides of the cup. I (none too gracefully) controlled the gorge rising in my throat, gave him his receipt and hurried him (and his cup) on his way. I promised myself that if he ever pulls that again I’ll call his mother and rat on him. >Came in pretty little round tins …
I suppose, though, that you’re referring to much more powdered snuff, rather than the snoose-type that I’ve experienced here….. Marilee – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> you snorted it up your nostrils and experienced instant sinus pain… > what *were* we thinking???) > As fondly as I remember much of the ’60s, there are parts of that > counterculture that, in retrospect, are downright embarrassing… > –Pat Kight > kig…@peak.org
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I have a pain behind my ear and it throbs and then it will stop and then pound……is this a cluster headache? I haven’t had a migraine since dialysis but that was all front of the head stuff, I have had cheese and nitrates(baloney) today among other headache inducing things…….and to call the doctor, fuck that and fuck the ER, I told Ted if I die leave me alone. sigh. Owie.owie owie. — TC3
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— TC3
: : I have a pain behind my ear and it throbs : and then it will stop and then pound……is this : a cluster headache? I haven’t had a migraine since : dialysis but that was all front of the head stuff, : I have had cheese and nitrates(baloney) today : among other headache inducing things…….and : to call the doctor, fuck that and fuck the ER, I told : Ted if I die leave me alone. sigh. : : Owie.owie owie. : : — : : TC3 : :
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Glad to hear that, Cheryl. Migraines suck. Sending healing vibes your way…. Amanda
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Ooooo, poor you, Cheryl. I see in your next posting you’re feeling a little better; yay. I’ve had some wicked all-day headaches lately; I chalk them up to either seasonal allergies (combination of dried plant stuff blowing around outdoors, and dry heated air inside), or a virus, or series of viruses, that my family and I seem to be trading back and forth endlessly, all this fall, with vague symptoms like headaches, fatigue, "aches and pains" (joints and muscles), minor GI discomfort, sneeziness, postnasal drip, sinus pain, minor sore throats, chest pain, cough, mild laryngitis… I keep thinking we’re all dying slowly of some dread bioterror organism!!! 
Anyway, I know how "owie" those head crushers can be. My sympathies. Do stay away from the cheese, chocolate, nitrates (I love ‘em too, sigh), and drink lots of water. Is your blood sugar normal etc? (I’m no medic; just a thought.) Take care of yerself, ya hear? Love, Anne
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Cheryl wrote……. I have a pain behind my ear and it throbs and then it will stop and then pound……is this a cluster headache? I haven’t had a migraine since dialysis but that was all front of the head stuff, I have had cheese and nitrates(baloney) today among other headache inducing things…….and to call the doctor, fuck that and fuck the ER, I told Ted if I die leave me alone. sigh.
Dear Cheryl, Doesn`t sound like a cluster. Cluster headaches usually involve a eye, and the pain can be so severe that your nose becomes reddened and runs. It usually affects men more than women. It sounds like something to do with your ear. When I get an ear infection or fluid in my ear, I get similiar symptoms. Take care and feel better soon! {{{{{Cheryl}}}}} Jackie ~*~Blossoms are scattered by the wind and the wind cares nothing, but the
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Hya missie, I saw you headache was going a bit better With all you went through I would be highly suprised if you didn’t got a headache. If I where you,I was in coma. Big kiss Anna
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Thank goodness ((((Cheryl)))). I have a hard time handling head aches myself. Charla
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — TC3 : : I have a pain behind my ear and it throbs : and then it will stop and then pound……is this : a cluster headache? I haven’t had a migraine since : dialysis but that was all front of the head stuff, : I have had cheese and nitrates(baloney) today : among other headache inducing things…….and : to call the doctor, fuck that and fuck the ER, I told : Ted if I die leave me alone. sigh. : : Owie.owie owie. : : — : : TC3 : :
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I have a pain behind my ear and it throbs and then it will stop and then pound……is this a cluster headache? I haven’t had a migraine since dialysis but that was all front of the head stuff, I have had cheese and nitrates(baloney) today among other headache inducing things…….and to call the doctor, fuck that and fuck the ER, I told Ted if I die leave me alone. sigh. Owie.owie owie.
Cheryl Wowsers!!! I woke up with the same and it wont budge yet and I have too much to do as usual pahhhh, hope it goes and I hope yours is better now Cheryl matey. It was freezing here last night and I wasnt well covered and that cant help and I dont suppose going into the antartic English weather to have a morning smoke in a dressing gown helps too much either:-) But brrrrrrr I had to, did I? I hope you are OK? ((((Big hug)))) Ray – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — TC3
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I am tired so I went to bed early, helped a lot. C — TC3
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: : : Glad to hear that, Cheryl. Migraines suck. Sending healing vibes your : way…. : : Amanda : :
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– TC3
: : Dear Cheryl, : : Doesn`t sound like a cluster. Cluster headaches usually involve a eye, and the : pain can be so severe that your nose becomes reddened and runs. It usually : affects men more than women. of my neck and seems like it pounds up…..I had a long dizzy/nauseated moment before it started and what was weird it was like neuropathy……that pound pound pound for a full minute and stop….. Strange……but it gets your anxiety going! : It sounds like something to do with your ear. When I get an ear infection or : fluid in my ear, I get similiar symptoms. Nahhhh I have labrynthitis a few times and that isn’t it(though I wish it was as I take antivert for that with antibios)…..this was a headache, seemed to start when I was scanning some magazines. But thanks for the cluster info Thanks Jackie! Love Cheryl : Take care and feel better soon! {{{{{Cheryl}}}}} : : Jackie : ~*~Blossoms are scattered by the wind and the wind cares nothing, but the
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I hate them, and have been really spoiled not having them for a whole year and a half……I think it was C — TC3
: Thank goodness ((((Cheryl)))). : : I have a hard time handling head aches myself. : Charla :
: : : — : : TC3 : : : : I have a pain behind my ear and it throbs : : and then it will stop and then pound……is this : : a cluster headache? I haven’t had a migraine since : : dialysis but that was all front of the head stuff, : : I have had cheese and nitrates(baloney) today : : among other headache inducing things…….and : : to call the doctor, fuck that and fuck the ER, I told : : Ted if I die leave me alone. sigh. : : : : Owie.owie owie. : : : : — : : : : TC3 : : : : : : : :
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– TC3
: Ooooo, poor you, Cheryl. I see in your next posting you’re feeling a : little better; yay. Much better thank you Anne~ : : I’ve had some wicked all-day headaches lately; I chalk them up to either : seasonal allergies (combination of dried plant stuff blowing around : outdoors, and dry heated air inside), or a virus, or series of viruses, : that my family and I seem to be trading back and forth endlessly, all this : fall, with vague symptoms like headaches, fatigue, "aches and pains" : (joints and muscles), minor GI discomfort, sneeziness, postnasal drip, : sinus pain, minor sore throats, chest pain, cough, mild laryngitis… I : keep thinking we’re all dying slowly of some dread bioterror organism!!! I don’t mean to laugh but I swear EVERYTIME I get mail(when it does come) I get this burning in my nose and my hands feel numb oh yeah, lovely to start having panic at the mailbox…….but I told anyone sick in my family to stay a million miles from me, one more hospitalization will put me right over the proverbial edge, so my mother said, BUT yes, think of the REST you will get…….hmmmmmm come kiss me mom! LOL <I am kidding Your family sounds like Ted’s sister, they pass more stuff around that house….. : : : Anyway, I know how "owie" those head crushers can be. My sympathies. Do : stay away from the cheese, chocolate, nitrates (I love ‘em too, sigh), LMAO I had all three yesterday, I was celebrating my two (more) pound weight loss and had a nice lunch of baloney and cheese on a roll and four mini Snickers (Heaven I tell ya!)….. and : drink lots of water. Is your blood sugar normal etc? (I’m no medic; just a : thought.) I take it more now then when I was a diabetic……I love seeing those normal numbers! : : Take care of yerself, ya hear? YOU too love xoxoxoox Love Cheryl : : Love, : Anne
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I am working on it(the coma)…… I told my dad last night, I KNOW why people become homeless…..it’s not lack of money, it’s stress! <not to make fun of homeless folk mind you but I swear I just got home yesterday and everything started to hurt on me…..my head, my legs, my back….. I guess I knew I have a handy dandy anti seizure suppository for C and she is fine on a new dose of topamax and dad is fine and mom is fine and well, I just let myself go and boy did my body have a shit fit…… sigh….. sorry to ramble…. Today is a much better day!!!! xo love C — TC3
: Hya missie, : : I saw you headache was going a bit better : With all you went through I would be highly : suprised if you didn’t got a headache. : If I where you,I was in coma. : : Big kiss Anna
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ahhhhhh all you bottom posters! See below LOL — TC3
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: : I have a pain behind my ear and it throbs : and then it will stop and then pound……is this : a cluster headache? I haven’t had a migraine since : dialysis but that was all front of the head stuff, : I have had cheese and nitrates(baloney) today : among other headache inducing things…….and : to call the doctor, fuck that and fuck the ER, I told : Ted if I die leave me alone. sigh. : : Owie.owie owie. : : Cheryl : Wowsers!!! I woke up with the same and it wont budge yet and I have too much : to do as usual pahhhh, hope it goes and I hope yours is better now Cheryl : matey. Thank ye Ray Matey LOL it is gone for now! It was freezing here last night and I wasnt well covered and that : cant help and I dont suppose going into the antartic English weather to have : a morning smoke in a dressing gown helps too much either:-) Land of cold chill and MoUld….LOL <teasing I would have to say please wear your coat to go smoke … :-) : But brrrrrrr I had to, did I? I have stood outside on my deck when I smoked dancing around freezing in my pj’s early in the am or late at night…….of course you had to! : I hope you are OK? I am doing dandy this am xoxo thank you! Cheryl : ((((Big hug)))) : Ray : : : — : : TC3 : : : :
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Cheers Cheryl here it is at the top now Yes its darned cold here but I have to do it.. Im better now but the wallet is ligher as I had a car disaster but forgot about the headache though LOL ! Hugs too Ray
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ahhhhhh all you bottom posters! See below LOL — TC3 : : : I have a pain behind my ear and it throbs : and then it will stop and then pound……is this : a cluster headache? I haven’t had a migraine since : dialysis but that was all front of the head stuff, : I have had cheese and nitrates(baloney) today : among other headache inducing things…….and : to call the doctor, fuck that and fuck the ER, I told : Ted if I die leave me alone. sigh. : : Owie.owie owie. : : Cheryl : Wowsers!!! I woke up with the same and it wont budge yet and I have too much : to do as usual pahhhh, hope it goes and I hope yours is better now Cheryl : matey. Thank ye Ray Matey LOL it is gone for now! It was freezing here last night and I wasnt well covered and that : cant help and I dont suppose going into the antartic English weather to have : a morning smoke in a dressing gown helps too much either:-) Land of cold chill and MoUld….LOL <teasing I would have to say please wear your coat to go smoke … :-) : But brrrrrrr I had to, did I? I have stood outside on my deck when I smoked dancing around freezing in my pj’s early in the am or late at night…….of course you had to! : I hope you are OK? I am doing dandy this am xoxo thank you! Cheryl : ((((Big hug)))) : Ray : : : — : : TC3 : : : :
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Does anyone remember the substance (? a vitamin) that was recommended (I think by Doc G) for pre-dilatation of the blood vessels in the sinuses before exercise? After my latest surgery I have gotten the infection under control (thanks to the xylitol!) but I am still getting one-sided frontal pain after strenuous exercise, especially in the heat, despite keeping well hydrated. I was contemplating taking Nurofen and Sudafed before exercising, but perhaps that’s not a very good cocktail to have with heavy exercise for those of us approaching middle age and suffering from mild hypertension! Thanks, Ann.
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I think the best thing would be just an asprin. Sudafed will raise your blood pressure… for most people it also act as a sedative. Generally exercise should reduce a headache because there is more blood flow attained. I think you may still have some infection if you’re still getting pain. Del "Ann" <amun…@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:8eEr7.348$bL3.25774@ozemail.com.au… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone remember the substance (? a vitamin) that was recommended (I > think by Doc G) for pre-dilatation of the blood vessels in the sinuses > before exercise? After my latest surgery I have gotten the infection under > control (thanks to the xylitol!) but I am still getting one-sided frontal > pain after strenuous exercise, especially in the heat, despite keeping well > hydrated. I was contemplating taking Nurofen and Sudafed before exercising, > but perhaps that’s not a very good cocktail to have with heavy exercise for > those of us approaching middle age and suffering from mild hypertension! > Thanks, Ann.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I remember hearing the story of "The Little Mermaid" when I was little, and being horrified by the part where every step the title character takes on land feels as if she’s walking on daggers. That’s what it feels like to me. So many things bring me pain. I see a kid with his parents, I think of my relationship with mine. I see the sun, I think of how much I suffered in the Summer when my skin condition was worse. A tree reminds me of pollen, allergies and sinus pain. My car reminds me of the payments I can’t afford. It’s as if the world is made up of spikes. I look at animals, how they seem to experience pleasure by default, and I long to be like that. I want to be happy just because I’m alive to experience the world. Come on, antidepressants, start working.
{{{{{Vampire Squid}}}}} I think we’ve all experienced periods where everything around us seems to call up a new painful memory. I hope this passes for you quickly. — Violet, sad for you
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I remember hearing the story of "The Little Mermaid" when I was little, and being horrified by the part where every step the title character takes on land feels as if she’s walking on daggers. That’s what it feels like to me. So many things bring me pain. I see a kid with his parents, I think of my relationship with mine. I see the sun, I think of how much I suffered in the Summer when my skin condition was worse. A tree reminds me of pollen, allergies and sinus pain. My car reminds me of the payments I can’t afford. It’s as if the world is made up of spikes. I look at animals, how they seem to experience pleasure by default, and I long to be like that. I want to be happy just because I’m alive to experience the world. Come on, antidepressants, start working.
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I get house brands of both Benadryl and diabetic cough syrup. Cheaper that way and just as good. I have high bp so decongestants are a no-no for me, but antihystamines are ok — and they do help you sleep!
Beware; YMMV! Antihistamines have no sedative effect for me. Some other medications also do not have that effect on me. Benadryl is not an effective antihistamine for me, either, while chlorpheniramine maleate is, but keep in mind, it might be the opposite for you. — This address is for information only. I do not claim that these views are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University. Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
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I know how you feel Beth. I have the same problem every time my allergies flare up. One things I found that really works when the pain and pressure is bad, is a hot washcloth applied to the face on the painful side. I usually microwave the wet cloth, as it has to be pretty hot. Just check it first and be careful not to burn yourself. Hope you feel better soon.
Thanks, I’ll try that! I’ve used that sort of thing before for cysts, but it hadn’t even occurred to me to try it on my face. Only problem is the heat & humidity right now don’t need any help… Beth
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posted something that included: One concern is high BP. Diabetics tend to have high BP and decongestants can raise it more. CoricidinHBP…guess what the HBP stands for?
Coricidin HBP sounds like a product which would contain a decongestant safe for people with high blood pressure. However, it contains NO decongestant at all. http://www.coricidinhbp.com/forprof.html deke
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mmmm, does that to me too. Also chilies, the hotter the better. 
No wonder I haven’t had to use the hot compresses much, since moving to New Mexico. Deb
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just a thought, have you ever eaten wasabi? It’s the hot hot mustard and horseradish that comes with sushi. That stuff really opens my sinuses. Thanks, all, for the replies. My nose is not congested at all, just my sinuses (over & under my left eye). It hurts most to lean over, and I wonder if I have a mild infection in there or just congestion. I’ll just take my chances with the Sudaphed, ibuprophen, and soup until my Dr’s appt on Tuesday. Beth I know how you feel Beth. I have the same problem every time my allergies flare up. One things I found that really works when the pain and pressure is bad, is a hot washcloth applied to the face on the painful side. I usually microwave the wet cloth, as it has to be pretty hot. Just check it first and be careful not to burn yourself. Hope you feel better soon. Deb
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| Just a thought, have you ever eaten wasabi? It’s the hot hot mustard and | horseradish that comes with sushi. That stuff really opens my sinuses. I had some today, I love that stuff!!!!! — Some mornings it just doesn’t seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps. Emo Philips A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. Franklin Delano Roosevelt www.erols.com/driver8 http://ntserver.at/rockcreek
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Just a thought, have you ever eaten wasabi? It’s the hot hot mustard and horseradish that comes with sushi. That stuff really opens my sinuses.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks, all, for the replies. My nose is not congested at all, just my sinuses (over & under my left eye). It hurts most to lean over, and I wonder if I have a mild infection in there or just congestion. I’ll just take my chances with the Sudaphed, ibuprophen, and soup until my Dr’s appt on Tuesday. Beth I know how you feel Beth. I have the same problem every time my allergies flare up. One things I found that really works when the pain and pressure is bad, is a hot washcloth applied to the face on the painful side. I usually microwave the wet cloth, as it has to be pretty hot. Just check it first and be careful not to burn yourself. Hope you feel better soon. Deb
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Thanks, all, for the replies. My nose is not congested at all, just my sinuses (over & under my left eye). It hurts most to lean over, and I wonder if I have a mild infection in there or just congestion. I’ll just take my chances with the Sudaphed, ibuprophen, and soup until my Dr’s appt on Tuesday. Beth
I know how you feel Beth. I have the same problem every time my allergies flare up. One things I found that really works when the pain and pressure is bad, is a hot washcloth applied to the face on the painful side. I usually microwave the wet cloth, as it has to be pretty hot. Just check it first and be careful not to burn yourself. Hope you feel better soon. Deb
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Thanks, all, for the replies. My nose is not congested at all, just my sinuses (over & under my left eye). It hurts most to lean over, and I wonder if I have a mild infection in there or just congestion. I’ll just take my chances with the Sudaphed, ibuprophen, and soup until my Dr’s appt on Tuesday. Beth – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I get house brands of both Benadryl and diabetic cough syrup. Cheaper that way and just as good. I have high bp so decongestants are a no-no for me, but antihystamines are ok — and they do help you sleep! Sometimes I feel like taking a lunch when I go to the store, I’m camped there so long reading labels! bj
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I get house brands of both Benadryl and diabetic cough syrup. Cheaper that way and just as good. I have high bp so decongestants are a no-no for me, but antihystamines are ok — and they do help you sleep! Sometimes I feel like taking a lunch when I go to the store, I’m camped there so long reading labels! bj
I use Benadryl for drying up my nose. It is an anti-histamine which
has been around for years and is safe for diabetics. It does make you a bit sleepy, though. (Good for taking before bedtime if you have a cold!) If you check at your drug store, in the cold medications section,
you can read the labels. Some are labeled as safe for diabetics — or at least they don’t have the diabetic warning on them. There is a Robitussin cough syrup that is OK for diabetics, it’s one
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Years ago, I got hooked on Afrin and was solidly addicted for years. I bought the generic varieties and typically had five or six squeeze bottles around the house. I also used the pills, e.g. Sudaphed, from time to time. When I would get congested and didn’t have Afrin around, I would get panicky, feeling like I was being suffocated, though, of course, I could always breathe though my mouth. At one point I even thought of surgery. After developing high blood pressure, diabetes, and an enlarged prostate, I decided to go cold turkey. I bought saline sprays and kept pumping them up my nose. Within a week or two, I was back to normal. Whenever I feel the need for a decongestant, I go for the saline, and the Breathe Right nasal strips for sleep. In combination with the saline, they actually work, even on my stuffed up honker. One thing though, use plenty of warm water in the morning before peeling them off ’cause they really stick to your skin. Very very occasionally, I will take half a dose of Sudaphed.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Sudaphed I have says not to use if you’re diabetic. It doesn’t seem to mess up my blood sugar, but there may be another reason not to use it that I don’t know about. Are there any that are considered safe? The cold I had pretty much went away and I’m left with just sinus pain/pressure on one side. The first appointment I could get is Tuesday, but I need a stop-gap until then. I’ve sort of been alternating between Sudaphed, ibuprophen, and nasal spray for a week now. Thanks, Beth
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Every pharmasist I’ve asked to date has recommened Sudaphed as a decongestant for diabetics with little or no side-effects. I’ve found my BGs run a little higher with it compared to something like Nyquil which usually causes them to run lower. In fact when I take Nyquil I almost always, like 99.9% of the times I wake up during the night or early morning with low sugars or symptomatic.
Thanks, I’ll keep up with the Sudaphed since it doesn’t seem to budge my bg and my bp’s okay. The Nyquil has a good bit of alcohol so that may be why you go low. It sure puts me to sleep! Beth
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The Sudaphed I have says not to use if you’re diabetic. It doesn’t seem to mess up my blood sugar, but there may be another reason not to use it that I don’t know about. Are there any that are considered safe? The cold I had pretty much went away and I’m left with just sinus pain/pressure on one side. The first appointment I could get is Tuesday, but I need a stop-gap until then. I’ve sort of been alternating between Sudaphed, ibuprophen, and nasal spray for a week now.
One concern is high BP. Diabetics tend to have high BP and decongestants can raise it more. And someone once posted that it can cause a problem with the eyes in some diabetics. But I can’t remember the specifics on that. You should ask your Dr. They let me take it when I was pregnant and had GD. But I don’t take it now. — Type 2 http://www.redshift.com/~juliebove/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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Every pharmasist I’ve asked to date has recommened Sudaphed as a decongestant for diabetics with little or no side-effects. I’ve found my BGs run a little higher with it compared to something like Nyquil which usually causes them to run lower. In fact when I take Nyquil I almost always, like 99.9% of the times I wake up during the night or early morning with low sugars or symptomatic. Cheers, Vince T1 – +/-8 years
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The Sudaphed I have says not to use if you’re diabetic. It doesn’t seem to mess up my blood sugar, but there may be another reason not to use it that I don’t know about. Are there any that are considered safe? The cold I had pretty much went away and I’m left with just sinus pain/pressure on one side. The first appointment I could get is Tuesday, but I need a stop-gap until then. I’ve sort of been alternating between Sudaphed, ibuprophen, and nasal spray for a week now. Thanks, Beth
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I used to get a lot of "hangover" type symptoms after a migraine ended. I think they were related to dehydration. Mostly, they went away when I drank more then 3 quarts of water. You might as well give it a try. Minerva: Anyone out there have any of the following after the migraine ends: confusion, saddness, sinus pain? I’ve got that severely after this last series of headaches. A little wouldn’t bother me, but this is a LOT.
Are you certain that you’re feeling sinus pain? It’s very common to clench your teeth when you’re in pain (with worse pain inspiring harder clenching.) After hours or days of this, it wouldn’t be at all surprising if your jaw muscles were sore. Most people think of "jaw muscles" as being where the lower jaw connects, kind of under the ears. But there are other jaw muscles near the cheekbones, where you might confuse them with sinus pain. Rest your fingers along your cheekbones and feel how things shift and tense as you clench and relax your jaw. It might be worth considering some meditative exercises to learn to relax your jaw, or a dental device that interferes with the clenching reflex. Lots of people have posted here about the NTI and how wonderful it is. I’m not convinced it’s a miracle cure for all migraines, but it seems helpful where there is bad muscle tension in the jaw. Anyway, after the headache dies down, I’ve got this short-term memory problem and a saddness I can’t talk myself out of. I’ve had this before, but as I said above, this is a lot more than I’ve had before. Any insights?
Well, my guess is that your migraines are interfering with your sleep. Everyone has trouble thinking clearly when they are seriously short on restful sleep, and your migraines seem too frequent for you to catch up on sleep in between. And pain is depressing! I’d be surprised if someone didn’t feel sad about suffering frequent severe pain that disrupted his or her life so badly. Maybe you can’t "talk yourself out of" this sadness. Maybe you have to let yourself feel it for a while, grieve for it, and move through it rather than trying to ignore it. This advice might feel completely wrong to you. Feel free to ignore it – different people need different coping techniques. I’m just trying to suggest possibilities you haven’t thought of yet. Adrian Turtle sidewalk radical
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Anyone out there have any of the following after the migraine ends: confusion, saddness, sinus pain? I’ve got that severely after this last series of headaches. A little wouldn’t bother me, but this is a LOT. I’ve had one or more migraines every day for the last two and a half weeks. I’ve been taking Imitrex, sinus medicine (without painkiller added in) and either acetaminophen or naproxen — none more than twice a day. I have Amerge to take, too, but since the headaches are so close together, I’ve been sticking with only Imitrex since the two medicines have bad side effects if taken together or closer than 24 hours apart. I really can’t tell if the sinuses cause the migraine or just happen at the same time. If I leave out the sinus medicine, the relief isn’t as great. Anyway, after the headache dies down, I’ve got this short-term memory problem and a saddness I can’t talk myself out of. I’ve had this before, but as I said above, this is a lot more than I’ve had before. Any insights? Thank you!
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