Are there sinuses in the top of your head?
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my ent told me that the ethmoid sinuses can "refer" pain to the top of the head and the back of the head. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 05:17:41 GMT, nestora3…@my-deja.com wrote: >my ent told me that the ethmoid sinuses >can "refer" pain to the top of the head >and the back of the head.
I read the same thing on one of the sinus web pages.
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"SmartBlonde" <SmartBlo…@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:b60V5.1557$0r2.98674@bgtnsc07-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > Thank you very much! I guess that answers my question. All the sinuses are > where I thought they were. Maybe the pain just radiates to the top of my > head from somewhere else or maybe it’s not even a sinus infection at all. A > specialist should be able to tell me. > Thanks!
Pain at the top of your head can be a symptom of sphenoid sinus infection. See an ENT and request a CT scan. Michael M.
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Hello…. I have had pain that seemed to originate from the top of my head as a result of sinusitis. I read somewhere that this is usually from an infected sphenoid sinus. ……However, after recently having a cat scan, I find my sphenoids are clear, but I do have an ethmoid infection. I have had "pounding" pain (during a flare-up) that not only extended to the top of my head (Where I got some relief by clasping my hands on top of my head and pulling down) but also under my left eyebrow. This also caused nausea. I am sure they are inter-related…. The last time this happened, I irrigated then lied face down on the bed with a cold compress over my brow. After a few minutes I heard some crackling noises coming out of my nose. I stood up, blew my nose, and filled the paper with the yellow junk. I then irrigated and flushed out a huge mass of yellowish/green phlem. Within minutes my headache was gone (and so were all my symptons that I thought for sure was a cold or flu coming on. Regards…..Jon
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If I didn’t know better, there was something in the alcohol you are allergic to. For instance, the red color in red wine. Robin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -SmartBlonde wrote: > Hi, I’m new here! I’m so glad I found you! I felt so alone! Anyway, > here’s a little history. I’ve had slight allergies all my life but never > had this type of sinus headache until about a year and a half ago. The > headaches are always on the right side and at the top of my head. At first > I thought it was just a hangover because it always seemed to happen the day > after I drank some alcohol. Then I started getting them at other times so I > knew it wasn’t a hangover. It usually lasts about 3 days and NOTHING gets > rid of the pain. My doctor keeps telling me it’s a sinus infection and > gives me antibiotics, allergy medication and nasal spray. It clears up for > awhile and then comes back. At first they were a few months apart. This > time I’ve had 3 separate incidences since the end of September. > Okay, I’ll get to the point – I went to the doctor again and asked him why > the pain is always at the top of my head on the right side. I thought all > your sinuses were in front around the nose and forehead. He told me there > ARE sinuses at the top of your head. Is he trying to fake me out or is this > true?
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Thanks! I figured that IF these are sinus infections, the pain must be radiating up to the top of my head from somewhere else. But the pain is so excrutiating when I get it, it feels like it’s right there! I still wonder why my doctor told me there are sinuses up there. Lying doesn’t seem like a "doctorly" thing to do. <nestora3…@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:9023hi$5dt$1@nnrp1.deja.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> my ent told me that the ethmoid sinuses > can "refer" pain to the top of the head > and the back of the head. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
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That’s what I’m planning to do! Thanks for the reply! "Michael Muloin" <mmul…@home.com> wrote in message
news:w63V5.722040$8u4.11766066@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "SmartBlonde" <SmartBlo…@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message > news:b60V5.1557$0r2.98674@bgtnsc07-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > > Thank you very much! I guess that answers my question. All the sinuses > are > > where I thought they were. Maybe the pain just radiates to the top of my > > head from somewhere else or maybe it’s not even a sinus infection at all. > A > > specialist should be able to tell me. > > Thanks! > Pain at the top of your head can be a symptom of sphenoid sinus infection. > See an ENT and request a CT scan. > Michael M.
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Thanks for the advice! I’ll have to try this irrigating stuff! When I get those headaches, NOTHING gets rid of the pain. The weird thing is that I don’t have any gunk in my nose and I’m not even anymore stuffy than usual, but I CAN feel some pressure around my face where my sinuses are. I’ve never had that greenish discharge I’ve heard about. That’s another reason I question whether these are even sinuse infections. I also read on some sinus web page that sinus infections are common, BUT rarely cause headaches. <Johnny1…@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:7959-3A252B92-25@storefull-118.iap.bryant.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello…. I have had pain that seemed to originate from the top of my > head as a result of sinusitis. I read somewhere that this is usually > from an infected sphenoid sinus. ……However, after recently having a > cat scan, I find my sphenoids are clear, but I do have an ethmoid > infection. I have had "pounding" pain (during a flare-up) that not only > extended to the top of my head (Where I got some relief by clasping my > hands on top of my head and pulling down) but also under my left > eyebrow. This also caused nausea. I am sure they are inter-related…. > The last time this happened, I irrigated then lied face down on the bed > with a cold compress over my brow. After a few minutes I heard some > crackling noises coming out of my nose. I stood up, blew my nose, and > filled the paper with the yellow junk. I then irrigated and flushed out > a huge mass of yellowish/green phlem. Within minutes my headache was > gone (and so were all my symptons that I thought for sure was a cold or > flu coming on. > Regards…..Jon
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I don’t drink wine too often. It didn’t seem to matter which type of alcohol I drank. Now it happens even if I don’t drink. I think it IS irritated by alcohol, though. Maybe I just didn’t realize I was getting the sinus infection and then when I drank, I just thought that was causing it. I do know that I called the "emergency nurse" when I was in terrible pain early one morning and she read off a list of things to avoid when you have a sinus headach. One of them was alcohol. I THINK she also mentioned carbonated beverages, but I can’t remember that clearly. I’m thinking maybe the carbonation somehow irritates the sinuses. "Robin [remove (SPAM_BLOCKER) from my email address to reply]" <"rakrout(spamblocker)"@home.com> wrote in message
news:3A2727A6.1926678B@home.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If I didn’t know better, there was something in the alcohol you are allergic > to. For instance, the red color in red wine. Robin > SmartBlonde wrote: > > Hi, I’m new here! I’m so glad I found you! I felt so alone! Anyway, > > here’s a little history. I’ve had slight allergies all my life but never > > had this type of sinus headache until about a year and a half ago. The > > headaches are always on the right side and at the top of my head. At first > > I thought it was just a hangover because it always seemed to happen the day > > after I drank some alcohol. Then I started getting them at other times so I > > knew it wasn’t a hangover. It usually lasts about 3 days and NOTHING gets > > rid of the pain. My doctor keeps telling me it’s a sinus infection and > > gives me antibiotics, allergy medication and nasal spray. It clears up for > > awhile and then comes back. At first they were a few months apart. This > > time I’ve had 3 separate incidences since the end of September. > > Okay, I’ll get to the point – I went to the doctor again and asked him why > > the pain is always at the top of my head on the right side. I thought all > > your sinuses were in front around the nose and forehead. He told me there > > ARE sinuses at the top of your head. Is he trying to fake me out or is this > > true?
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Hello…. My sinus problem seemed to get worse when I had to go on HBP pills….. I guess they cause the tiny blood vessels to expand thereby leading to congestion. I was probably "boarder-line" major sinus problem before starting them. …..they probably were the "straw" that broke the camel’s back, so to speak. …….I think alcohol works the same way…..I know If I have a couple of beer, I’ll talk just like my nose has been pinched shut. ….(major congestion) …..Certain other foods like cheese have the same effect. If the pain is caused by the sinuses, I would recommend irrigation and lying for 20 minutes or so "face down" ……Have you noticed if the pain gets worse if you travel to areas of differing altitude? Where I live, it’s about 3000 ft. ASL . Whenever I travel to the closest city, which is only about 500ft ASL …. Instant headache either over my eyebrow or on the top of my head. ….. Takes a few days to adjust. Regards…..Jon
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Is strep the germ that causes sinus infections? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<Colensoe> wrote in message news:xNwnOlgEVNxY5KRgRuY2punWxLGr@4ax.com… > Aenorobic infection will cause many problems but will not cause that > greenish discharge. Pressure is one of the main characteristics of > strep! > On Fri, 01 Dec 2000 06:33:30 GMT, "SmartBlonde" > <SmartBlo…@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > >Thanks for the advice! I’ll have to try this irrigating stuff! When I get > >those headaches, NOTHING gets rid of the pain. The weird thing is that I > >don’t have any gunk in my nose and I’m not even anymore stuffy than usual, > >but I CAN feel some pressure around my face where my sinuses are. I’ve > >never had that greenish discharge I’ve heard about. That’s another reason I > >question whether these are even sinuse infections.
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I haven’t been at any different altitudes while having one of those headaches so I don’t know how that would affect them. Usually the pain is so bad I can’t do anything but lie down. Sometimes I have to put ice on my head in order to be able to sleep. I’m going to have to try this irrigation stuff! Thanks! <Johnny1…@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:26778-3A282C4A-57@storefull-114.iap.bryant.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello…. My sinus problem seemed to get worse when I had to go on HBP > pills….. I guess they cause the tiny blood vessels to expand thereby > leading to congestion. I was probably "boarder-line" major sinus problem > before starting them. …..they probably were the "straw" that broke > the camel’s back, so to speak. …….I think alcohol works the same > way…..I know If I have a couple of beer, I’ll talk just like my nose > has been pinched shut. ….(major congestion) …..Certain other foods > like cheese have the same effect. > If the pain is caused by the sinuses, I would recommend irrigation and > lying for 20 minutes or so "face down" ……Have you noticed if the > pain gets worse if you travel to areas of differing altitude? Where I > live, it’s about 3000 ft. ASL . Whenever I travel to the closest city, > which is only about 500ft ASL …. Instant headache either over my > eyebrow or on the top of my head. ….. Takes a few days to adjust. > Regards…..Jon
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Hmmm. I don’t feel like crap EVERYday. Just when I get those really bad headaches. I’ve never had that greenish discharge. Maybe what I have isn’t even an infection. I’m just going to have to go to a specialist. Thanks! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<Colensoe> wrote in message news:frMpOv6y6pURO6wIoRa+4+zk=gbk@4ax.com… > No, not usually. Most infections are aerobic and live in the sinus > cavity causing greenish discharge and such. If you have a chronic type > of infection ie. Feel like crap everyday, then maybe you have an > underlying anaerobic infection which tends to cause other types of > infection on top of it. Clear? > On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 06:27:03 GMT, "SmartBlonde" > <SmartBlo…@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > >Is strep the germ that causes sinus infections?
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Hi, I’m new here! I’m so glad I found you! I felt so alone! Anyway, here’s a little history. I’ve had slight allergies all my life but never had this type of sinus headache until about a year and a half ago. The headaches are always on the right side and at the top of my head. At first I thought it was just a hangover because it always seemed to happen the day after I drank some alcohol. Then I started getting them at other times so I knew it wasn’t a hangover. It usually lasts about 3 days and NOTHING gets rid of the pain. My doctor keeps telling me it’s a sinus infection and gives me antibiotics, allergy medication and nasal spray. It clears up for awhile and then comes back. At first they were a few months apart. This time I’ve had 3 separate incidences since the end of September. Okay, I’ll get to the point – I went to the doctor again and asked him why the pain is always at the top of my head on the right side. I thought all your sinuses were in front around the nose and forehead. He told me there ARE sinuses at the top of your head. Is he trying to fake me out or is this true?
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This could be a frontal sinus condition which sounds quite serious. Severe pain from this area suggests bone involvement. Please ask your doctor for a CT sinus x ray. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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He had a regular x-ray done and it looked normal. Will a CT x-ray show more? Do you think I need to see a specialist? My regular doctor doesn’t seem to take it serious. He didn’t even look in my nose. Just listened to what I said and told me it was a sinus infection. Thanks! "ENTconsult" <entcons…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20001127170401.07545.00003825@ng-cs1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This could be a frontal sinus condition which sounds quite serious. Severe > pain from this area suggests bone involvement. > Please ask your doctor for a CT sinus x ray. > Murray Grossan, M.D. > http://www.ent-consult.com
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SmartBlonde wrote: > He had a regular x-ray done and it looked normal. Will a CT x-ray show > more? Do you think I need to see a specialist? My regular doctor doesn’t > seem to take it serious. He didn’t even look in my nose. Just listened to > what I said and told me it was a sinus infection.
Ordinary X-rays have such a high rate of false negatives with sinusitis, that they are nearly useless. The sinus CT scan has only a 5-10% rate of false negatives, so it has a much better chance of showing what is going on in there. And the cost of a CT scan today is only two or three times more than an ordinary X-ray, so there is no excuse not to get one. — Steven D. Litvintchouk Email: s…@mitre.org Disclaimer: As far as I am aware, the opinions expressed herein are not those of my employer.
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If this is a frontal sinus infection with extreme pain, the complications can be very serious. Seeing an ENT specialist is necessary in such a situation. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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"SmartBlonde" <SmartBlo…@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:7LmU5.7219$FT.425871@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > …. I thought all > your sinuses were in front around the nose and forehead.
See Dr. Tichenor’s excellent pictures of sinuses at http://www.sinuses.com/ctscan.htm
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Thanks! I’ll tell my doctor! "Steven D. Litvintchouk" <s…@mitre.org> wrote in message news:3A23428A.F005FE70@mitre.org… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> SmartBlonde wrote: > > He had a regular x-ray done and it looked normal. Will a CT x-ray show > > more? Do you think I need to see a specialist? My regular doctor doesn’t > > seem to take it serious. He didn’t even look in my nose. Just listened to > > what I said and told me it was a sinus infection. > Ordinary X-rays have such a high rate of false negatives with sinusitis, > that they are nearly useless. The sinus CT scan has only a 5-10% rate > of false negatives, so it has a much better chance of showing what is > going on in there. And the cost of a CT scan today is only two or three > times more than an ordinary X-ray, so there is no excuse not to get one. > — > Steven D. Litvintchouk > Email: s…@mitre.org > Disclaimer: As far as I am aware, the opinions expressed > herein > are not those of my employer.
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Thank you! I’m going to talk to my doctor and have him send me to a specialist. I’m sure he won’t appreciate it, but it’s MY head!!! I still don’t know why the pain’s at the TOP of my head. "ENTconsult" <entcons…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20001128102153.06693.00000272@ng-cs1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If this is a frontal sinus infection with extreme pain, the complications can > be very serious. Seeing an ENT specialist is necessary in such a situation. > Murray Grossan, M.D. > http://www.ent-consult.com
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Thank you very much! I guess that answers my question. All the sinuses are where I thought they were. Maybe the pain just radiates to the top of my head from somewhere else or maybe it’s not even a sinus infection at all. A specialist should be able to tell me. Thanks! "Dave Gower" <dave…@magma.ca> wrote in message
news:MOZU5.13570$rr3.626340@news… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "SmartBlonde" <SmartBlo…@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message > news:7LmU5.7219$FT.425871@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > > …. I thought all > > your sinuses were in front around the nose and forehead. > See Dr. Tichenor’s excellent pictures of sinuses at > http://www.sinuses.com/ctscan.htm