Sinusitis FAQ

Barbaric (was Re: Chronic Sinusitis in 3.5 yea

Question:

: I have performed over 300 endoscopic sinus surgeries in the last 6 years : mostly in adults, but a fair number in children as well with highly : refractory disease.  I personally believe the initial approach should : involve adenoidectomy and antral lavage alone with endoscopic sinus : surgery reserved for failures of that approach. Lovely. To paraphrase the oft-ill Dan Quayle: "It was a problem, I don’t need it, so let’s get it out!" I’m so glad your patients avoided the dangers of alternative therapy.

Response:

Steve Dyer says: : People like him take their neuroses and hypochondriasis and : : fashion moronic hypotheses out of them which they try to push by : : repeating them in public forums as often as they can.  And when you’ve : : been here for a while, you realize that each of these types sounds exactly : : the same.  Medical quackery always seems to play out with identical : : schemata. And cynics have the same voice, too.

Response:

: Steve is a person who I admire for his extensive pharmacopeia (sp?) : knowledge, and has shared this knowledge with many.  However, : sometimes orthodoxy gets in the way of reality, and what Steve wrote : above lacks any scientific merit.  It’s strictly an ad hominim : attack on my character and hope everybody sees through it. : Impressive use of words, though, which I’ll have to try to learn from. : : All you can do is repond calmly and clearly as you have.  NOT to try to : dissuade him–you might as well be arguing with a looney-tune about : alien abductions, but so that the other people reading his articles : are not unduly influenced by them.  The best response is an authoritative, : informed one.  Thanks for providing that. : : Let me let the new readership to these newsgroups know that Steve : Dyer just showed his true colors in this post.  This is what you can : expect from Steve who resorts to character assassination and : distortion of the truth in order to self-gratify his neurotic INTJ : personality (oops, sorry an ad hominim attack). : : Jon Noring Steve is rather obviously a megalomaniac filled with himself to the degree that he condescends rather than argues most of the time. For him, a slur or a nasty dismissal of another’s point-of-view as a sign of their stupidity is the commonplace. "Authoritative" is his password for ‘paternalistic.’ As a cynic, he keeps company with ad-posters and others of his own brand of "loony tunes"–in my killfile. Enjoyed your posts, Jon. Don’t know much about what you’re writing, but I couldn’t see any obvious fallacies in them. Then again, I’m not spending time in this newsgroup looking for ideas to suppress and people to despise.

Response:

: You and Dr Ivkers apparently are focused on the fringe. Fringe : population, fringe treatments. Good for you, bad to assume they are : good  for the general public. The "vision" of medical science is : responsible  for the explosion of new medical knowledge that grows : logarithmically every year and is supported by the scientific : method and reproducibility. It is not supported by flashes in the : pan that seek widespread application prior to proof of : effectiveness by independent study. : : : SK Dankle, MD The general public is following you guys down, with your microscopic rationality and your treatments that leave people scarred and with permanent limitations. Barbaric is the right word for your kind of centrism. But hey, doc…welcome to the fringe, where we actually heal people and they go away whole. Guess that’s just too much to ask from you.

Response:

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