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Hi, No I have not seen these can you send me any references? Thanks, Rod. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -bfp383 wrote: > I have seen medical journal articles about fungal sinusitis being > caused by the overfilling of root canals. Have you seen this? > On 9 Oct 2005 05:06:01 -0700, "rod" <rodma…@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > >Hi, > >I recently had an X-ray done of a possible bad root canal treatment. > >The theory is that this has been affecting my sinuses, eg. I have been > >diagnosed with sinusitis. From: > >http://au.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rodmayes/album?.dir=/ea8d&.src=ph&.t… > >You can see the "canal filler" extending into the sinus cavity, with > >some "extra filler" at the tip. > >Is anyone able to verify that this would be affecting my sinuses and if > >so, in what way? > >Thanks, > >Rod.
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I have seen medical journal articles about fungal sinusitis being caused by the overfilling of root canals. Have you seen this? On 9 Oct 2005 05:06:01 -0700, "rod" <rodma…@yahoo.com.au> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi, >I recently had an X-ray done of a possible bad root canal treatment. >The theory is that this has been affecting my sinuses, eg. I have been >diagnosed with sinusitis. From: >http://au.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rodmayes/album?.dir=/ea8d&.src=ph&.t… >You can see the "canal filler" extending into the sinus cavity, with >some "extra filler" at the tip. >Is anyone able to verify that this would be affecting my sinuses and if >so, in what way? >Thanks, >Rod.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -tyler.scha…@gmail.com wrote: > I am not a doctor. I have had FESS, and i suspected a bad root canel > may have led to my chronic sinusitis. With that said, i will give my > layperson observations/thoughts: > >From my experiences, it does look like the filler is extending into the > maxillary sinus. > Is the maxillary sinus above that tooth infected? Yes > Is the tooth (and surrounding tissue) pressure and/or temperature > sensitive? Only some pain. I was wondering about this too … but does not the root canal treatment remove the nerves and tooth effectively dies .. in which case it would not feel any pain. > In my case, the right maxillary was a mess, and pressue on the tooth > would cause sharp pain. > You need to see an ENT and/or an endontist. I would see an ENT to > possibly scan your sinuses, and make a judgement in regards to the > tooth. I have heard that endontists can be quick to advise surgery. > Keep that in mind.
I have done this ENT was prior to this w-ray being taken. Endontist said should be fine, but I have my doubts … maybe they just cover for each other … scared I will commence litergation of some kind. Has anyone heard of dentists covering up for each other? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Good Luck. > Tyler
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I am not a doctor. I have had FESS, and i suspected a bad root canel may have led to my chronic sinusitis. With that said, i will give my layperson observations/thoughts: >From my experiences, it does look like the filler is extending into the
maxillary sinus. Is the maxillary sinus above that tooth infected? Is the tooth (and surrounding tissue) pressure and/or temperature sensitive? In my case, the right maxillary was a mess, and pressue on the tooth would cause sharp pain. You need to see an ENT and/or an endontist. I would see an ENT to possibly scan your sinuses, and make a judgement in regards to the tooth. I have heard that endontists can be quick to advise surgery. Keep that in mind. Good Luck. Tyler
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rod wrote: > Hi, > I recently had an X-ray done of a possible bad root canal treatment. > The theory is that this has been affecting my sinuses, eg. I have been > diagnosed with sinusitis. From: > http://au.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rodmayes/album?.dir=/ea8d&.src=ph&.t… > You can see the "canal filler" extending into the sinus cavity, with > some "extra filler" at the tip. > Is anyone able to verify that this would be affecting my sinuses and if > so, in what way?
Well, we laypersons can’t diagnose you by remote control. But I have heard that about 10% of sinusitis cases are thought to be of dental origin. The maxillary sinus cavity is separated from the roots of the upper molar teeth by just a thin layer of bone. When an upper molar extrudes into the maxillary sinus cavity, it can allow infection to travel into the sinus. So if your sinusitis problems started after your bad root canal treatment, it’s certainly a prime suspect. Get a second opinion, preferably from an oral surgeon. — Steven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlit…@earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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On 9 Oct 2005 05:06:01 -0700, "rod" <rodma…@yahoo.com.au> wrote: >Hi, >I recently had an X-ray done of a possible bad root canal treatment. >The theory is that this has been affecting my sinuses, eg. I have been >diagnosed with sinusitis. From: >http://au.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rodmayes/album?.dir=/ea8d&.src=ph&.t… >You can see the "canal filler" extending into the sinus cavity, with >some "extra filler" at the tip. >Is anyone able to verify that this would be affecting my sinuses and if >so, in what way?
Well it will affect your sinuses. So just get it fixed and see what happens. I would be hopeful…..
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Hi, I recently had an X-ray done of a possible bad root canal treatment. The theory is that this has been affecting my sinuses, eg. I have been diagnosed with sinusitis. From: http://au.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rodmayes/album?.dir=/ea8d&.src=ph&.t… You can see the "canal filler" extending into the sinus cavity, with some "extra filler" at the tip. Is anyone able to verify that this would be affecting my sinuses and if so, in what way? Thanks, Rod.
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I have been reading this newsgroup everyday for about 7 years now. Received lots of information. Some worked others didn’t. But I am still suffering with chronic sinusitis. I had two sinus surgeries during the last 7 years. I also suffer from sleep apnea. Between the apnea and sinusitis I feel very fatigued, no energy and tired all day. My ENT doctor wants me to go to University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia for a check up by the specialists. I am willing to go. The information that I am requesting is there any one in this group that has been there and can they recommend a Doctor. If I go I would at least like to see the best there is. Maybe one with sleep apnea as well as sinusitis experience. Thanking you in advance. Bob West
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On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:19:25 -0400, wes…@webtv.net (Bob West) wrote: >I have been reading this newsgroup everyday for about 7 years now. >Received lots of information. Some worked others didn’t. But I am still >suffering with chronic sinusitis. I had two sinus surgeries during the >last 7 years. I also suffer from sleep apnea. Between the apnea and >sinusitis I feel very fatigued, no energy and tired all day. My ENT >doctor wants me to go to University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia for >a check up by the specialists. I am willing to go. The information that >I am requesting is there any one in this group that has been there and >can they recommend a Doctor. If I go I would at least like to see the >best there is. Maybe one with sleep apnea as well as sinusitis >experience. Thanking you in advance.
Dr. Kennedy is most famous but you would probbaly not be able to see him as ha has cut back his load. But it is one of the very best centers of excellence in sinus surgery there is anywhere and there are quite a few famous surgeons there. See http://pennhealth.com/Wagform/MainPage.aspx?config=provider&P=PL&S=OTO – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Bob West
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I went. didnt get to see dr Kennedy. saw a dr. Chui. I’m sure these guys are good but i think i spent about 5 minutes with the dr. and got nowhere. he looked at my yr old cat scan – stuck the scope in my nose and told me to get together with an allergist, as my primary concern is persistent, unrelenting nasal drip(or something). he didnt think that there was anything that he could surgically do for me (i wasnt asking that specifically) that hadnt already been attempted with 2 previous surgeries. he thought that the hole that i had in my septum could not be repaired and that it was not the cause of my primary problem. I was unhappy with the visit, i had expected to get more tests – (like for AFS) but was rushed on out of there. i imagine that many will see this and think that i must be a hypochondriac, which i never fully dismissed (although several other surgeons did) but whatever i do have actual physical measurable symptoms. i do intend to see an allergist/immunologist/whatever again even though i had spent a yr on shots with no noticable improvement. all symptoms are different though and maybe you will find value in the UofP visit. good luck.
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On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 07:44:09 -0400, "loxaluck" <loxal…@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote: >I went. didnt get to see dr Kennedy. saw a dr. Chui. I’m sure these guys >are good but i think i spent about 5 minutes with the dr. and got nowhere. >he looked at my yr old cat scan – stuck the scope in my nose and told me to >get together with an allergist, as my primary concern is persistent, >unrelenting nasal drip(or something). he didnt think that there was >anything that he could surgically do for me (i wasnt asking that >specifically) that hadnt already been attempted with 2 previous surgeries.
They are surgical specialists there, so if a non-surgical solution is appropriate, you probable are indeed better elsewhere. They are (usually) great at surgery, and it is good to know at least that you do not need surgery. I think that Chui is well known. > he thought that the hole that i had in my septum could not be repaired and >that it was not the cause of my primary problem. I was unhappy with the >visit, i had expected to get more tests – (like for AFS
Only a few places think that AFS is a major factor, and U. Penn is not one of them. > but was rushed on >out of there. i imagine that many will see this and think that i must be a >hypochondriac,
I do not think so for a moment. Chronic post nasal is a very serious problem that you need to solve. Check immune status, thyroid, B12-vitamin levels, diet, white blood cell count. >which i never fully dismissed (although several other >surgeons did) but whatever i do have actual physical measurable symptoms. > i do intend to see an allergist/immunologist/whatever again even though i >had spent a yr on shots with no noticable improvement. all symptoms are >different though and maybe you will find value in the UofP visit. good >luck.
It is a place for an opinion on surgery. If you want a more all-round approach, I would suggest Mayo.
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Thank you very much. i sure do appreciate it. i will set up an appt with my general practioner to discuss the things that you have mentioned and exhaust all those possibilities as well as a visit to an immunologist/allergist before i set up a Mayo appt. greg
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My doctor mentioned the name of a liquid solution that mixes with water for use in nasal irrigation. I thought he said Alkazol, but I’ve found not mention of it online. Any ideas what he might have meant? Thanks.
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It’s alkalol and you can get it at several on-line sites plus most drug stores can order it for you. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -rrsaf…@yahoo.com (rrsafety) wrote: >My doctor mentioned the name of a liquid solution that mixes with >water for use in nasal irrigation. I thought he said Alkazol, but I’ve >found not mention of it online. Any ideas what he might have meant? >Thanks.
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On 4 May 2004 09:07:19 -0700, rrsaf…@yahoo.com (rrsafety) wrote: >My doctor mentioned the name of a liquid solution that mixes with >water for use in nasal irrigation. I thought he said Alkazol, but I’ve >found not mention of it online. Any ideas what he might have meant? >Thanks.
Yes, good stuff – very soothing, refreshing, helps dissolve/thin mucus. Product name is actually spelled ALKALOL Manufactured by: The Alkalol Company Taunton, Mass 02780-0952 Many, maybe most pharmacies can order it for you. Very inexpensive – about $3.00 a pint.
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Its called Alkalol and is a nice product. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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Its in many mom and pop drugstores but not many big chains. I did find it in an sav-on however, it was in the mouthwash section right next to Liserine and toothpastes. Even though its for the nose it says gargle on bottle too. Here is a place you can buy online and what the bottle looks like http://www.medichest.com/alkalolliquid16oz.html Ed On Thu, 06 May 2004 14:33:38 GMT, iJah <iJahSpamSu…@sbcglobal.net> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->On 4 May 2004 09:07:19 -0700, rrsaf…@yahoo.com (rrsafety) wrote: >>My doctor mentioned the name of a liquid solution that mixes with >>water for use in nasal irrigation. I thought he said Alkazol, but I’ve >>found not mention of it online. Any ideas what he might have meant? >>Thanks. >Yes, good stuff – very soothing, refreshing, helps dissolve/thin >mucus. >Product name is actually spelled ALKALOL >Manufactured by: >The Alkalol Company >Taunton, Mass 02780-0952 >Many, maybe most pharmacies can order it for you. Very inexpensive – >about $3.00 a pint.
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"Janine Maves" <jma…@earthlink.net> schrieb: >Okay, here’s a weird one for you irrigation afficionados: >I’ve never experienced an actual loss of smell with chronic sinusitis but >for some reason each time I follow Can Do’s peroxide irrigation technique, I >get the strongest whiff of potting soil. Any ideas what this is about?
Hydrogen Peroxide apparently usually is bottled together with a small amount of sulfuric acid, I could imagine that could be the source of the smell Bye, Sascha
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Hi Janine… I had an upper molar root canaled 10 years ago, due to pain. A year or so later, I went back to the dentist complaining of more pain from the same tooth. He took an X-ray, but said it looked fine. ..I continued to have pain, so he cut the gum up to the root tip, and put a couple of fillings in the end. …I found out 4 years ago, after I started irrigating, that the sore tooth was simply referred pain from my sinuses. …I haven’t had the pain since. …Jon
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> Okay, here’s a weird one for you irrigation afficionados: > I’ve never experienced an actual loss of smell with chronic sinusitis but > for some reason each time I follow Can Do’s peroxide irrigation technique, I > get the strongest whiff of potting soil. Any ideas what this is about?
I get the same exact smell. I have no idea what it is but I’m glad you have it to so I don’t have to worry about my entire house smelling like potting soil 
Tony
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Ok then If you use about 2 ounces I know its not working for me. I use a small rubber ear bulb. It holds 2 ounces and I use only 1/5 of that. Its like a put a teaspoon of solution in each nose opening and thats all that will go in then it over flows. then I wait 3 minutes get the sneezing sting, wait, wiggle my face ect. wait. Try a few more drops. I tryed the shower up side down method. same thing. I guess the catscan is right. the sinus is full of polips and the small tube is clogged. Right now my upper molars are in toothache pain mode again. Denist said there is no cavity or problems. I just dont want sinus sergery. I just want to breeze through my nose again. But I dont want a 3 in one sergery fix it all at once. I feel it may be overkill. Why cant I just get the new turbinate swelling reduction in office (high frquency) thing done and see if that works????? Or is the small tube just going to stay blocked and sinus infections still happen. I had 6 weeks of heaven when I did the daily irrigation and added peroxide every other week. Then I went on vacation, stayed at a shit hotel that smelled (last room, on a Holiday) Now my sinuses are screwed again. I tested positive for dustmites and mold. Had the house tested and they were high. Had the mold and dustmites problem fixed but the dustmites can return if the humidity goes up. so I keep the humidity in the bedroom at 35%. And the house at 30%. ifFixed the bedroom with covers for mattress pillows, carpet ect. Worked fantastic for 6 weeks. But the doctor says the septum is crooked. (catscan I seen). Polips are to many and large. and turbinates are always swelled. God I wish I knew the answer. I dont trust any Doctors anymore. If you act dumb they take advantage of you. If you tell them my maxillary sinuses are bad they wonder why you know so much. ( I knew more than the 4 nurses) Then you get a cat scan and xray 2 different places and they tell you the maxillary sinuses are bad. ( I knew that)They never give real details. Because of the fast pace, bullshit sameold crap that we have to live with attitude,. I deal with this almost everywhere. But now I go to stores that treat me like a person, A bank where Im not a number and if I pay more for that service thats fine. But why should doctors be any different. Damn give us respect. Thats all it comes down to. If you are low mid or upper income, Respect. I run a business, Im not perfect but Im honest and I respect all of my customers. I dont care if they spend a dollar or a thousand. I have spent a hour or more on a person and they say I must buy something for your time. I say no way. They always come back again and that meens they respect me and I did my job. And you will have a friend for life. Ok Im done, next.. 
Be good .. Have a good Christmas. Thanks for listening
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Okay, here’s a weird one for you irrigation afficionados: I’ve never experienced an actual loss of smell with chronic sinusitis but for some reason each time I follow Can Do’s peroxide irrigation technique, I get the strongest whiff of potting soil. Any ideas what this is about? BTW, I’ve found I have better luck doing this if I lay on my back on my bed with my head hanging off.
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Janine, I also experience a weird smell from the peroxide/baking soda combination. It stays with me for most of the day. Are you able to flood your sinuses? I have never done it on my back. I might do one just to test that position. Is there a lot of foam? Any blood in the discharge? Do you feel better or worse after a sinus flooding? How many have you done, and when did you start? Hope you don’t mind the questions. I am really hoping that it really helps your sinus disease and makes you feel great. CanDo. "Janine Maves" <jma…@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:i_KFb.9589$wL6.6012@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Okay, here’s a weird one for you irrigation afficionados: > I’ve never experienced an actual loss of smell with chronic sinusitis but > for some reason each time I follow Can Do’s peroxide irrigation technique, I > get the strongest whiff of potting soil. Any ideas what this is about? > BTW, I’ve found I have better luck doing this if I lay on my back on my bed > with my head hanging off.
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Oh, I forgot. Janine, That took a lot of courage and imagination on your part, especially finding your own way of doing the "upside down" flooding. Congratulations on overcoming the obstacles and doing it your way! Regards, CanDo.
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Hi, I must be doing the can do wrong. How many ounces or mm. should go in? I fill up each side but I can not seem to get it to go in the sinus. Unless it is and I cant feel it. Also my cat scan shows the left side filled with something but the doc was unsure what. Cat scan showed right side ok frontal sinuses a little bad he said. My problem is maxillary with upper teeth pain that sometimes is very bad. So what happens if the maxillary fills with the solution and does not exit? Is that possible. I did do the can do about 7 weeks ago and it worked great but I just lay on my back and hang over the bed. Little foam. no blood. I guess I just need to know the quanity of solution (without spillage) that it takes to know if the sinuses are saturated. Otherwise I think Im just filling the nose only…. Thank you, Please let me know.
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=== > Jimmy, you wrote: "Hi, I must be doing the can do wrong. How many ounces or mm. should go in? I fill up each side but I can not seem to get it to go in the sinus. Unless it is and I cant feel it." <=== When I do the "upside down" flooding, I really can’t feel the liquid in my sinuses, after it is in there. The total fluid I use for one flooding is about 55ml or about 2 liquid ounces. ===> You also wrote: "So what happens if the maxillary fills with the
solution and does not exit? Is that possible." <=== If liquid goes in, I don’t understand why it would not be able come out. If I had some liquid trapped in my sinuses I would try different positions of my head until I found one where it would drain out. It’s all a matter of gravity, and having the opening in the right position. ===> You also wrote: "I did do the can do about 7 weeks ago and it worked
great but I just lay on my back and hang over the bed. Little foam. no blood. I guess I just need to know the quanity of solution (without spillage) that it takes to know if the sinuses are saturated. Otherwise I think Im just filling the nose only…. Thank you, Please let me know. " <=== I’ve used the "upside down" flooding process to control and heal my sinus disease for well over two years, successfully. My sinuses feel great every day. They are wide open, relaxed, without any discomfort at all 24 hours per day, each and every day. Mind you, this came after over thirty years of sinus disease, sinus surgery, and countless antibiotics. My sinuses were a wreck! Now they are not. I have never done the flooding in any other position than with the top of my bald head fully down on the floor of my shower. My elbows are bent, and my forearms are down on the shower floor. My head is between my forearms, near the wrists. I don’t know if this position gets the anti-infective fluid into all sinus cavities, but I feel that it gives me the best chance to get the fluid into the most sinus areas, where it can fight the infection. I hope that this helps. Best of the holidays to you!
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Janine Maves wrote: > Okay, here’s a weird one for you irrigation afficionados: > I’ve never experienced an actual loss of smell with chronic sinusitis but > for some reason each time I follow Can Do’s peroxide irrigation technique, I > get the strongest whiff of potting soil. Any ideas what this is about?
When I get a "decay" smell in my sinuses, it’s a sure sign of an acute sinus infection. the smell that I get is that of rotting meat. — Steven L.
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I fill a plastic bottle with about three ounces of warm filtered water, a pinch of sea salt, pinch of baking powder and a few drops of peroxide. I don’t use all of it. It also seemed that I only filled my nose the first time I tried it, but it seems to be that I’m making a little more "progress" each day I repeat the irrigation. (As to drainage, I would think having trace amounts of peroxide solution trapped in a sinus cavity would be less harmful than pus in the long run.) My CT scan also showed left maxillary side filled with infection . . . in fact I always wondered if I needed all the dental work I had on the upper left side, as I’ve continued to have pain up there even after two root canals. I wonder if the oral surgeon would’ve just moved on down, doing one tooth every few months if I’d let her? "Jim Jam" <jimmy14…@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:18872-3FE78AD0-442@storefull-2212.public.lawson.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, I must be doing the can do wrong. How many ounces or mm. should go > in? I fill up each side but I can not seem to get it to go in the sinus. > Unless it is and I cant feel it. Also my cat scan shows the left side > filled with something but the doc was unsure what. Cat scan showed right > side ok frontal sinuses a little bad he said. My problem is maxillary > with upper teeth pain that sometimes is very bad. So what happens if the > maxillary fills with the solution and does not exit? Is that possible. I > did do the can do about 7 weeks ago and it worked great but I just lay > on my back and hang over the bed. Little foam. no blood. I guess I just > need to know the quanity of solution (without spillage) that it takes to > know if the sinuses are saturated. Otherwise I think Im just filling the > nose only…. Thank you, Please let me know.
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Yep. Me too. Absolutely. For sure. 100%. Follow instructions though. <nestora3…@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:90f2ld$2ja$1@nnrp1.deja.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Yes it works like gangbusters! > YOU CAN BE HELPED TREMENDOUSLY > AND WILL NOT NEED TO TAKE ANTIBIOTICS REPEATEDLY. YOU MAY EVEN > AVOID SINUS SURGERY.
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I am trying to find out if the tip fits all models of waterpik. The wp60 model is on sale at kmart and I would buy it and order the tips if I knew for sure that they would work with it.Please let me know.Thanks Jody
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J Slkw wrote: > I am trying to find out if the tip fits all models of waterpik. The wp60 > model is on sale at kmart and I would buy it and order the tips if I > knew for sure that they would work with it.Please let me know.Thanks > Jody
All the websites say Dr. G’s attachment fit all models of waterpik. I ordered my attachment through Hydro Med (http://www.sinus-relief.com/) but it hasn’t arrived yet. BTW the wp70 model is on price rollback at Walmart for $29.94.
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Yes it works like gangbusters! YOU CAN BE HELPED TREMENDOUSLY AND WILL NOT NEED TO TAKE ANTIBIOTICS REPEATEDLY. YOU MAY EVEN AVOID SINUS SURGERY. Certainly any cough, allergies, dizziness, headaches & post nasal drip will be helped!! Your sinus health will improve. You have only your suffering to lose. Have you READ ABOUT PULSATILE SALINE IRRIGATION? If you have then you know that the Grossan sinus irrigator tip is a simple attachment for the Water Pik
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Go to the excellent FAQ last published on this newsgroup on 15 March. This will site the best two web resources for sinusitis, these being Dr Tichenor’s superb web site and Dr Grossan’s equally splendid site which covers other ENT aspects. Go to www.sinuses.com and www.ent-consult.com Alexander F
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Hi Robin, You might want to suggest to your physician to extend your course of Bactrim beyond fourteen days. Chronic sinusitis sufferers often require longer courses of antibiotics to make sure that the infection is completely eradicated. If the infection returns after two weeks, it could be more difficult to treat. A 4-6 week course may be more appropriate. Cheers, Michael M. robin <ro…@martnet.com> wrote in message
news:3828D866.529DBB77@martnet.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> It’s the fourth day – my tongue is sore from > drawing constantly (sorry, it’s hard to candy coat > this subject) but it’s thinning out and the > infection is flowing – no pain in the frontals > (forehead) and feel like there’s all kinds of > action going on behind the cheek bones. For those > just tuning in – sinus infection/chronic > sinusitis. This is the fourth medicine I’ve tried > as a result of someone else’s suggestion here. So > far, so good. The real test will be when I am > done them in another 10 days. GO BACTRIM! Robin > JR: I wish you a speedy recovery – what else can > be said. Not a route I want to take. Good luck.
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It’s the fourth day – my tongue is sore from drawing constantly (sorry, it’s hard to candy coat this subject) but it’s thinning out and the infection is flowing – no pain in the frontals (forehead) and feel like there’s all kinds of action going on behind the cheek bones. For those just tuning in – sinus infection/chronic sinusitis. This is the fourth medicine I’ve tried as a result of someone else’s suggestion here. So far, so good. The real test will be when I am done them in another 10 days. GO BACTRIM! Robin JR: I wish you a speedy recovery – what else can be said. Not a route I want to take. Good luck.
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Culture and antibiotics We take cultures because by the time the patient gets to my office they have usually already had several antibiotics. It isn’t just the antibiotic that is needed, its the cilia movement, the drainage, the habit patterns, etc. Of course the patient won’t get well if they don’t rest, or there is need for drainage or pulsatile irrigation. There are other things to consider besides antibiotics. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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>It isn’t just the antibiotic that is >needed, its the cilia movement, the drainage, the habit patterns, etc. Of >course the patient won’t get well if they don’t rest, or there is need for >drainage or pulsatile irrigation.
I went for my Pre-op exam and the ENT said that there was no need to do a culture as he did not see any build-up of mucus in the sinuses – THANKS TO JUST ONE WEEK OF NIGHTLY IRRIGATION!!! He said the cleaner my sinuses going into surgery the easier the procedure will be for both of us and encouraged me to keep irrigating up until the morning of the surgery. THANK YOU DR GROSSAN!!!! Too bad the irrigator can’t fix my deviated septum also! Sincerely, Nadine
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In article <7gcr7r$…@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com>, laz…@ix.netcom.com wrote: > So for the past 15 years or so I have suffered from really bad sinus > infections. If I get a cold or get run down – boom. Low grade fever if a > fever is present at all and dragging all day. Takes a long time to get back > up to snuff. Anyway my question is what is the best antibiotic for this? > Thanks
The website www.Cforyourself.com is sponsoring a study of the possible effects of high-dose vitamin C on chronic sinusitis. Even if you are skeptical or think you do not wish to participate, please visit the sinus page at: http://www.cforyourself.com/Conditions/Sinusitis/sinusitis.html Thanks and I look forward to hearing your thoughts. ******************************** * Here’s to your health from * http://www.CforYourself.com * ru…@cforyourself.com * Take your Vitamin C ********************************
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>Isn’t that the truth!!! I’ve never had a GP, Allergist or an ENT suggest a >culture. Just gave me 5 different antibiotics , sinus surgery, steroid >nasal sprays and antihistamines. Probably crossed their fingers and hope
The ENT doing my surgery on the 25th is having me come in on the 21st to do a sinus culture so he’ll know exactly what to put me on post-op. In 20 years no one has ever suggested a culture. I read its really hard to get an accurate one due to the other contaminants in the nasal passages. I just hope its not painful! Nadine
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I have found they’re reluctant to do cultures cause they will find the infection is a staph infection which they know, they cannot get rid of out of sinus’s. Phil – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -NBoles7029 wrote: > >Isn’t that the truth!!! I’ve never had a GP, Allergist or an ENT suggest a > >culture. Just gave me 5 different antibiotics , sinus surgery, steroid > >nasal sprays and antihistamines. Probably crossed their fingers and hope > The ENT doing my surgery on the 25th is having me come in on the 21st to do a > sinus culture so he’ll know exactly what to put me on post-op. In 20 years no > one has ever suggested a culture. I read its really hard to get an accurate one > due to the other contaminants in the nasal passages. I just hope its not > painful! > Nadine
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This is an interesting topic. There is so much variation on what doctors do. They did a culture during my first surgery, but did not do one before or immediately after my second. I ended up still having problems after my second surgery and they did a culture which did show staph. I have had in office cultures taken differently by different ENT’s. One sucioned it out using an endoscope and one stuck a pipe cleaner type swab way up there. I hope what Phillip says about staph being hard to treat isn’t true. Phillip, where did you hear that? Any one else have any information? I have cultured out at various times this last year E.Coli, Staph and Strep. They did do sensitivities each time, but I have heard even that is a challange to get exactly right. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -NBoles7029 wrote: > >Isn’t that the truth!!! I’ve never had a GP, Allergist or an ENT suggest a > >culture. Just gave me 5 different antibiotics , sinus surgery, steroid > >nasal sprays and antihistamines. Probably crossed their fingers and hope > The ENT doing my surgery on the 25th is having me come in on the 21st to do a > sinus culture so he’ll know exactly what to put me on post-op. In 20 years no > one has ever suggested a culture. I read its really hard to get an accurate one > due to the other contaminants in the nasal passages. I just hope its not > painful! > Nadine
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I just responded to one thread but I had another comment. Isn’t it difficult to culture people who haven’t had sinus surgery? I thought the opening wasn’t big enough until after the surgery? I will also ask you about what Phillip wrote. Is Staph hard to cure in the sinuses? I ask this because I have had 2 surgeries and I am still having some problems and a culture I had recently showed Staph. I didn’t realize certain bacteria were worse that others as long as they are sensitive to some antibiotic. Could the sensitivity show an antibiotic to work on Staph, but then in actuality could it be hard to treat (assuming one is doing all the other things like irrigation, nasal steroids, steam, rest, etc., etc. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ENTconsult wrote: > Today we take a culture, then test it for sensitivity. That tells us what the > best drug for the infection is. > You shouldn’t use Ford parts in a Toyota. So you should use the antibiotic > tested for by the culture/sensitivity. > Now if I start an antibiotic before I get the culture back, I am prepared in > case that antibiotic doesn’t work. > Treating sinusitis is more than just antibiotic. Rest, drainage, papaya > enzymep, pulsatile irrigation, hot tea and chicken soup – all these contribute > to recovery. > Murray Grossan, M.D. > http://www.ent-consult.com
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news:3735B4F5.DE0E313B@bellsouth.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ENTconsult wrote: > > Today we take a culture, then test it for sensitivity. That tells us what the > > best drug for the infection is. > > You shouldn’t use Ford parts in a Toyota. So you should use the antibiotic > > tested for by the culture/sensitivity. > > Now if I start an antibiotic before I get the culture back, I am prepared in > > case that antibiotic doesn’t work. > > Treating sinusitis is more than just antibiotic. Rest, drainage, papaya > > enzymep, pulsatile irrigation, hot tea and chicken soup – all these contribute > > to recovery. > > Murray Grossan, M.D. > > http://www.ent-consult.com > What part of the country are you from? These days it work like this. > You go to the doctor, he say "Well, it looks like, or i think it’s > x,y,or z, so what we’ll do is we’ll give you this antibiotic and take if > for two weeks, That is if he choose to give you one. In my case that > doesn’t happen. After two weeks you should be better. Used to be > cultures were routine, but doctors have gotten away from that. I’d like > to know of a good doctor that practice doing cultures prior to > antibiotic therapy. I feel this is one reason so many people are > allergic to so many antibiotics, because they are give antibiotics that > don’t work, because the germ that is causing the problem is immune to > the medication that is given.
Isn’t that the truth!!! I’ve never had a GP, Allergist or an ENT suggest a culture. Just gave me 5 different antibiotics , sinus surgery, steroid nasal sprays and antihistamines. Probably crossed their fingers and hope for a cure. Bob
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Today we take a culture, then test it for sensitivity. That tells us what the best drug for the infection is. You shouldn’t use Ford parts in a Toyota. So you should use the antibiotic tested for by the culture/sensitivity. Now if I start an antibiotic before I get the culture back, I am prepared in case that antibiotic doesn’t work. Treating sinusitis is more than just antibiotic. Rest, drainage, papaya enzymep, pulsatile irrigation, hot tea and chicken soup – all these contribute to recovery. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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So for the past 15 years or so I have suffered from really bad sinus infections. If I get a cold or get run down – boom. Low grade fever if a fever is present at all and dragging all day. Takes a long time to get back up to snuff. Anyway my question is what is the best antibiotic for this? Thanks
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In article <7gcr7r$…@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com>, laz…@ix.netcom.com wrote: > So for the past 15 years or so I have suffered from really bad sinus > infections. If I get a cold or get run down – boom. Low grade fever if a > fever is present at all and dragging all day. Takes a long time to get back > up to snuff. Anyway my question is what is the best antibiotic for this? > Thanks
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I still believe that we are cursed by our genes. I can see strains of my problem in certain other family members, although not quite so pronounced. Would it help to take things forward if we could identify those people who DON’T suffer from sinusitis? I’m willing to bet that no sufferers who subscribe to this newsgroup are: a. of oriental extraction b. redhaired Just a hunch. — Frank Tompson
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Frank Tompson wrote: > I still believe that we are cursed by our genes. I can see strains of my > problem in certain other family members, although not quite so > pronounced. Would it help to take things forward if we could identify > those people who DON’T suffer from sinusitis? I’m willing to bet that no > sufferers who subscribe to this newsgroup are: > a. of oriental extraction > b. redhaired > Just a hunch. > — > Frank Tompson
My ENT is Chinese born in China, Got his Doctorate in the US. He like my self has sinusitis. He has also shared with me his children have sinusitis from time to time as well. (Both he and his wife are Chinese) He also told me once cockroaches in the home are as common as ants/spiders here in the US and that many people there are allergic to them. I used to babysit for a women that is a red head and she had a red headed daughter both ahve allergies. Gluten Entropathy for one but the mother also was allergic to certain chemical and got a lot of rashes as I recall. I don’t disagree with you on your main point though, genetics does play a big role in wether or not you will have allergies.
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Vicki, I am glad you came back with this, as I didn’t make it clear that I believe that allergies are not the problem with most sufferers. What seems to me to be going on is that the bits and pieces in our head are doing what they are supposed to, but just DOING IT TOO MUCH! In the case of excess mucus suffers like me, the stuff is supposed to be there to do a job, but for some reason more is produced than is necessary. When I eat or drink – anything at all – my nose starts to run. Perfectly normal reaction, but with most people they wouldn’t notice it because the discharge is so tiny. To try to draw a parallel, we all have growth genes that determine our height, but some inherit more height than others. Presumably there is a gene, amongst all the billions of others, which determines the rate of nasal discharge. If only we could turn it off, or genetically modify it, we might have the answer. I take your point about allergies, which undoubtedly exist, but I am coming from a different angle. Mind you, the same principle of genetic engineering would apply to them aswell. Regards, Frank – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Frank Tompson wrote: >> I still believe that we are cursed by our genes. I can see strains of my >> problem in certain other family members, although not quite so >> pronounced. Would it help to take things forward if we could identify >> those people who DON’T suffer from sinusitis? I’m willing to bet that no >> sufferers who subscribe to this newsgroup are: >> a. of oriental extraction >> b. redhaired >> Just a hunch. >> — >> Frank Tompson >My ENT is Chinese born in China, Got his Doctorate in the US. He like my >self has sinusitis. He has also shared with me his children have >sinusitis from time to time as well. (Both he and his wife are Chinese) >He also told me once cockroaches in the home are as common as >ants/spiders here in the US and that many people there are allergic to >them. >I used to babysit for a women that is a red head and she had a red >headed daughter both ahve allergies. Gluten Entropathy for one but the >mother also was allergic to certain chemical and got a lot of rashes as >I recall. >I don’t disagree with you on your main point though, genetics does play >a big role in wether or not you will have allergies.
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In my article below I wrote: >I still believe that we are cursed by our genes. I can see strains of my >problem in certain other family members, although not quite so >pronounced. Would it help to take things forward if we could identify >those people who DON’T suffer from sinusitis? I’m willing to bet that no >sufferers who subscribe to this newsgroup are: >a. of oriental extraction >b. redhaired >Just a hunch.
Thanks for the various replies which suggested my theory was somewhat off the mark. It was useful to test it in the newsgroup anyway. — Frank Tompson
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: The chronic sinusitus and cough relate to gastroespohageal reflux. In : some patients, reflux oozes up the esophagus and causes heartburn. In : others, dysmotility causes the gastric contents to shoot up the : esophagus and they spash against the posterior nasopharnyx and larnyx. : This is one of the topics at the June 10 PDI Conference. The PDI ENT : specialist is giving a lecture called "Its all in your head, but not in : your imagination." What a great title for an ENT lecture! (grin) Best Wishes, Arthur
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If it helps I get like my nose has pressure in it real bad and sometimes an itching pressure feeling in it. It feels weird too. I don’t have the coughing feeling but. it does feel like allergy type thing when I get nervous
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We all know the link between hyperventilation and panic, but here is how to link your sinusitis and heartburn to breathing. It would make a good question to ask at the lecture below. http://www.ultra.net.au/buteyko/asthma_heartburn_reflux.html regards James Hooper : The chronic sinusitus and cough relate to gastroespohageal reflux. In : some patients, reflux oozes up the esophagus and causes heartburn. In : others, dysmotility causes the gastric contents to shoot up the : esophagus and they spash against the posterior nasopharnyx and larnyx. : This is one of the topics at the June 10 PDI Conference. The PDI ENT : specialist is giving a lecture called "Its all in your head, but not in : your imagination." What a great title for an ENT lecture! (grin) Best Wishes, Arthur
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The chronic sinusitus and cough relate to gastroespohageal reflux. In some patients, reflux oozes up the esophagus and causes heartburn. In others, dysmotility causes the gastric contents to shoot up the esophagus and they spash against the posterior nasopharnyx and larnyx. This is one of the topics at the June 10 PDI Conference. The PDI ENT specialist is giving a lecture called "Its all in your head, but not in your imagination." Dr.S. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : Can any body shed light on a condition which results in a chronic : "allergic-like" nose – itch and continuous hacking-type coughs. Could be many things, really. With regard to anxiety disorders, we can become overly sensitive to any bodily sensation; a hightened awareness that is natural with anxiety and panic. But best to consult your doctor to rule out other possible medical causes. Best Wishes, Arthur
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Can any body shed light on a condition which results in a chronic "allergic-like" nose – itch and continuous hacking-type coughs.
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: Can any body shed light on a condition which results in a chronic : "allergic-like" nose – itch and continuous hacking-type coughs. Could be many things, really. With regard to anxiety disorders, we can become overly sensitive to any bodily sensation; a hightened awareness that is natural with anxiety and panic. But best to consult your doctor to rule out other possible medical causes. Best Wishes, Arthur
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